Installing OpenSuSE on my netbook - how I did it
Summary: A step-by-step screenshot walk-through of how I installed Linux on a system with UEFI BIOS and Secure Boot.
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The Default Acer Windows 8 Desktop
My last few posts about UEFI and Secure Boot have resulted in quite a few requests for information and additional details about how I installed Linux on systems with UEFI BIOS and Secure Boot.
Here is a gallery of screen shots, walking through how I installed the recently released openSuSE 12.3 on my new Acer Aspire One 725. This system came preloaded with Windows 8 (64-bit), UEFI Bios, Secure Boot enabled, and a GPT-partitioned disk.
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Its obvious you are not a Windows power user
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Installing OpenSuSE on my netbook - how I did it
Just look at that off green desktop. Staring at that all day would make me sick as well as give me vision problems. But linux was never known for its artistic talents. Linux was never known for a lot of things such as drivers or security. So what you are telling me is that it is possible to install linux on a computer with UEFI despite the one blogger on ZDNet who is convinced its simply not possible.
Obviously you have never used Linux.
Linux systems do - even if it is a netbook - if you want it, you got it.
does anybody actually leave the wallpaper alone on Windows? Everybody I know replaces it with something better.
And he didn't say it was not possible - just not possible with your own keys. You are forced to use something from MS.
Before I rip your post to shreds
Please define "come with".
"Linux systems do"
Please define "Linux systems".
"just not possible with your own keys"
Wrong.
http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/owning-your-windows-8-uefi-platform/
toddbottom3...still using your usual tactic of trying to divert the subject
Your continually pathetic attempts at posting always lack credibility for any serious discussions
Don't need that
Mr. Davidson
And just to drive the point home, one can download the SQLite Manager add-on for Firefox from here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/
and use it as a front-end to create and use your own SQLite personal databases, similar to what many do with Microsoft Access on Windows, although Microsoft Access is much more feature-rich.
And back on topic, OpenSuse 12.3 and most other Linux distros ship with Mozilla's Firefox web browser.
Loverock-Davidson go check your FAILING Surface RT sales and tell us all
And while your at it don't to tell us all how to compile something or another.
Oh no
Microsoft is evil then. /s
The off green shown is a windows 8 desktop, you clown, a wallpaper that 'windows' chose.
The off green shown is a windows 8 desktop, you clown
Just look at that off green desktop. Staring at that all day would make me
You must be referring to the default Acer windows 8 desktop, in which case I agree with you.
It came with windows preinstalled.
3h of arduous work and all you get is ...
Maybe it's because HW recognition is still poor, drivers are full of bugs or simply non existent, the text console still is a necessity (!), each LINUX distribution has its own GUI driving users crazy, ... to name a few reasons.
Even after years of effort to get it done, Linux is still under construction and burdens way to many hurdles on to the user. Windows Vista and Windows 8, most hated Win versions ever could not lure users towards Linux. Duh ...
This is the state of Suse not linux
@ammohunt, please elaborate
"Frankly Suse is not a Distrobution that is common now and not a disrto i would recommend for any Org to run on their servers or desktops; you can thank Novell for that."
As to *why* you would not recommend organizations to run commercial SuSE on their servers and desktops. Both OpenSuSE 12.3, the subject of this article, and SuSE have some very nice features.
P.S. Nice! A Windows troll followed by a Linux bigot.
Time Required for Installation
Hmmm. *Linux is still under construction". Well, it is under continuous development, if that is what you consider "construction", so for a change you are right about this. The nice part is that Linux users get the benefits on that development continuously, and at no charge, rather than having to wait several years between major releases, and having to pay again and again and again to get the "new developments".
Finally, "Windows Vista and Windows 8, most hated Win versions ever", another point on which we completely agree.
If you really insist on comparing with Windows, going back to your original statment, I can install a new Linux system, from scratch, including downloading the ISO image and copying it to USB stick or CD-R, with all updates, patches, optional packages, configuration and customization in about an hour. Installing Windows from scratch, using the original installation/recovery disks, including an infinite number of iterations of "Windows Update - Reboot - Windows Update - Reboot - Windows Update - Reboot" has never taken me less than a half day, and generally is in the range of one to two full days - and THAT, in my opinion, is "arduous work" because you can seldom walk away and just let it run, you have to continually watch for the next input requirement, reboot request, or whatever.
Thanks for reading and commenting. Duh...
jw
Thanks for reading and commenting.
Thanks for driving the point home
Great news.
Thanks again Jamie.
PS Sorry to hear about your negative experiences installing Windows. I can only imagine that if you had to go through THAT many update - reboot cycles that you were installing a very old version of Windows and that you didn't bother getting install media that already had the latest service pack. If you can't download this media, you can create it yourself based on RTM media. If this is something you do often, it is worth the upfront time:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/239634/how_to_speed_up_windows_7_installs_with_slipstreaming_and_usb.html
I must admit, I haven't installed Windows 7 in a long time because Windows 7 just works. I've also only had to install Windows 8 once and that too just worked and certainly didn't take 1-2 days.
Hope you find this information useful for the future. This is what ZDNet should be about, sharing useful information.
Various Windows Versions, Various Linux Versions
I have heard of slipstreaming a few times, but I must say again, I am a VERY average Windows user (comment 1 above is correct, I am obviously not a Windows Power User, thanks for the compliment). I haven't tried slipstreaming, in part because I am lazy, in part because I always manage to convince myself that I'm not really going to install Windows from scratch often enough to justify it, and in part because I have lots of different computers, from different manufacturers, with different Windows installations, drivers, utilities and such, so would I be able to make one slipstream disk for all of them, or would I have to make a different one for each manufacturer, or a different one for each system? See previous comments about being lazy and average to explain why I have not followed up at this point. Of course, the part about not needing to install very often is probably not valid for me, because as I am sure you have discerned, I can be a bit hard on my computers with the frequency with which I install different operating systems on them, from time to time I make a mistake, or something goes wrong, or I don't like the disk partitioning, and I end up wiping the entire disk and reloading everything from scratch, including Windows.
I do have some recent metrics on installing Windows 8, because I have done it already on both of my Win8/UEFI systems (HP and Acer). The HP was done from a USB stick which was graciously supplied to me for free from HP, and the Acer was done from a USB stick created using the Acer Recovery Manager. Both installed without problem, which impressed me, but both took on the order of a half day (4 hours +/-) by the time they got through Windows Update.
To be fair, though, and thinking about it in detail as I write this, Linux installation could take that long as well, depending on the distribution and how long it has been since it was released. Fedora 18 has not been out that long, and it is already up to about 500 updates. Downloading and installing all of those updates can take an hour or so. I think the place where Linux wins is that there are new releases periodically, so the number of updates is reset to zero, thus never getting ridiculously long. I suppose that Windows Service Packs should server approximately this purpose, and if it were as easy to get updated installation media with them included as it is to get a new Linux distribution, it would be a different story. But it doesn't seem to me that it is - maybe that's just my own lack of experience or initiative.
I do find the information you gave useful, and I do absolutely agree that this is what ZDNet should be about.
Thanks for reading and commenting.
jw
I agree that this is an advantage of Linux
No, 95% of Windows users would have a great deal of difficulty getting up to date installation media. Of course, 94% of Windows users don't NEED up to date installation media but for that 1%, Linux wins that metric by a long shot. The stupid thing is that MS could very easily make up-to-date Windows install media available for free downloading (like Linux) since:
1. It is the product key that counts.
2. Pirates don't need Microsoft to make the installation media available, they already have it.
3. Enterprises DO have access to download up-to-date Windows install media (at least to the latest service pack).
I can only imagine that MS doesn't do this because there simply hasn't been a big demand for it.