we got accustomed with M$ flops or uselless and buggy windoze apps...
But relying on M$ to drive yor car is like playing russian rullete with 5 rounds in a 6 shooter.
Photos: Future tech at Microsoft Innovation day
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Microsoft hosted its fourth Innovation Day in Brussels with partner groupss showing off the tech wares they predict could take off in the near future.
This photo shows a system developed by the Microsoft Research team in Cambridge, where the car learns how to drive around a track within a computer game. With further work it's hoped it can be tested on real vehicles.
The three green laser lines measure time to impact to various objects, while the lines on the road show the route the car has taken previously which it uses to perfect its line.
All photos credit: Tim Ferguson, Silicon.com
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as you are the safest in your car when it will not start in your driveway. No way it could drive you off a bridge at that point. 
plagued with bugs. But, the problem, is Window does actually bood sometimes, but crash or give the wrong information at thw worst possible time. It really would be better if Windows just did not boot.
Solaris is the best choice. Linux is windows as far as I'm concerned, and not what I use unix for. Now please, bring on the 'omgisnot~! linxu r bettz0r' lines.
More likely your car will get an unsupported component and start getting horrible gas mileage, while the computer crashes you due to a runtime error.
More likely your car will get an unsupported component and start getting horrible gas mileage, while the computer crashes you due to a runtime error.
critical applications. It would be funny if it was not so dangerous.
have the innovation day with vendors, then you can comment but until that time - go back to sleep.
Let's see, an innovative business practice. If you can make more money by breaking the law and paying the fines, what is there to think about??? BREAK THE FIRETRUCKING LAW.
(without making stuff up)
the story but covered it
"Bob"
Self-driving computerized car: Sounds cool, but it'll have to be very realistic to be useful. Besides, it's already being done with real vehicles - they know what DARPA is, right?
Smart board: Sounds useful - if it doesn't cost as much as a small car. I worry greatly about price.
Intelligent Monitor: No thanks. I smell privacy issues.
3D car on a card thingy: I can see this being a fad for the marketing folks, but won't last much longer than a few months.
Virtual events: Again, another marketing fad.
Robot: Looks ugly and not real news, as I've heard about robots like this before.
Map thing: Umm - have ANY of these people used a GPS before? Nearly all GPS devices have this. It's difficult to buy one that CAN'T do this.
Whiteboard: I've seen the occasional one at a large college, but I think the price means most colleges will stick to regular whiteboards and projectors.
Smart board: Sounds useful - if it doesn't cost as much as a small car. I worry greatly about price.
Intelligent Monitor: No thanks. I smell privacy issues.
3D car on a card thingy: I can see this being a fad for the marketing folks, but won't last much longer than a few months.
Virtual events: Again, another marketing fad.
Robot: Looks ugly and not real news, as I've heard about robots like this before.
Map thing: Umm - have ANY of these people used a GPS before? Nearly all GPS devices have this. It's difficult to buy one that CAN'T do this.
Whiteboard: I've seen the occasional one at a large college, but I think the price means most colleges will stick to regular whiteboards and projectors.
I can imagine microsoft software driving my car. Right when changing lanes at 70 miles/hr it would blue-screen and I'd be hurtling off the highway into the abyss. Or maybe it would get stuck when I'm already late for work, demanding to be "activated" right this instant or else it won't allow the car to move.
Going by the number of crashes I've seen on the so-called "smart phones" running windows, and the various other windows powered devices which have gone BSOD, this scenario is not only probable but very likely.
Lovely. I'd rather shoot myself and end it quickly.
Going by the number of crashes I've seen on the so-called "smart phones" running windows, and the various other windows powered devices which have gone BSOD, this scenario is not only probable but very likely.
Lovely. I'd rather shoot myself and end it quickly.
I have huge interest on technologies and if I could program via C#/VB.net, it'd be great to integrate into a house with Speech API.
"just because windows isnt perfect, it doesnt mean everything else is good"
love that saying and stand by it..
whens the last time you saw INNOVATION like this from and linux camps. I mean real-world INNOVATION?
If this sort of technology was implemented to actually drive your car, then it would have to pass strict standards, like ANY other componenents in a vehicle. How many times do you fly a plane? Do you have any idea how much of an aircraft is controlled and monitored by electronics/computer equipment? what makes the difference? Not a lot, its all programming.
As software gets closer to critical (as in live or death) the standards go up. Try thinking as an adult before whining.
love that saying and stand by it..
whens the last time you saw INNOVATION like this from and linux camps. I mean real-world INNOVATION?
If this sort of technology was implemented to actually drive your car, then it would have to pass strict standards, like ANY other componenents in a vehicle. How many times do you fly a plane? Do you have any idea how much of an aircraft is controlled and monitored by electronics/computer equipment? what makes the difference? Not a lot, its all programming.
As software gets closer to critical (as in live or death) the standards go up. Try thinking as an adult before whining.
I'm glad someone on this forum has some sense. I'm a graduate student in mechanical engineering and I know that automated or assisted car control (which has an active application in crash detection and prevention) is a very hot topic! And with small groups and powerhouses like Microsoft working on such INNOVATIONS, they may actually be realized.
And if you're scared of a little automation in your life, well, as mentioned, don't even think of stepping onto an airplane. Actually forget about cars, too; those are largely automated, either mechanically or electronically. Watch out for that coffee maker, also.
To say that Microsoft isn't an innovative company is ridiculous. Yes, Mac lovers, Apple is innovative also. Yes, Linux lovers...nevermind.
And if you're scared of a little automation in your life, well, as mentioned, don't even think of stepping onto an airplane. Actually forget about cars, too; those are largely automated, either mechanically or electronically. Watch out for that coffee maker, also.
To say that Microsoft isn't an innovative company is ridiculous. Yes, Mac lovers, Apple is innovative also. Yes, Linux lovers...nevermind.
them getting together would be innovation in itself.
The only thing "Innovative" about these products is the shiny new Microsoft label on them.
The DARPA grand challenge was about driving cars - REAL cars - around with no driver input long before this announcement, and there have been projects about driverless cars before the DARPA challenges as well.
Microsoft's "touch" stuff came out after the iPhone.
Innovation? Or just slapping a new label on something that already exists?
"How many times do you fly a plane?"
Planes have multiple redundant systems and software designed specifically for reliability. It's doubtful that Microsoft software would ever meet the requirements. Microsoft would rather try to lower the requirements rather than raise the quality of their software.
"what makes the difference? Not a lot, its all programming."
FALSE. The hardware is different. Very different. Both the hardware and software are made redundant, and the redundant systems are purposefully made by different manufacturers and developers so that if there's a failure that is common with one manufacturer, the equipment from the other manufacturer still works, and the whole system can't cascade into failure. You'll have several chips performing the same job made by different people.
In REAL critical software and hardware, you NEVER EVER put all of your eggs in one basket. Period.
The DARPA grand challenge was about driving cars - REAL cars - around with no driver input long before this announcement, and there have been projects about driverless cars before the DARPA challenges as well.
Microsoft's "touch" stuff came out after the iPhone.
Innovation? Or just slapping a new label on something that already exists?
"How many times do you fly a plane?"
Planes have multiple redundant systems and software designed specifically for reliability. It's doubtful that Microsoft software would ever meet the requirements. Microsoft would rather try to lower the requirements rather than raise the quality of their software.
"what makes the difference? Not a lot, its all programming."
FALSE. The hardware is different. Very different. Both the hardware and software are made redundant, and the redundant systems are purposefully made by different manufacturers and developers so that if there's a failure that is common with one manufacturer, the equipment from the other manufacturer still works, and the whole system can't cascade into failure. You'll have several chips performing the same job made by different people.
In REAL critical software and hardware, you NEVER EVER put all of your eggs in one basket. Period.
Your really need a nap and a baba
and then you'll feel much better..
Now go on before you get a time out!!!!
and then you'll feel much better..
Now go on before you get a time out!!!!
lol, at least I can make a valid point even when I'm a bit pissed.
Do you know how many times my old Nokia B&W phone crashed on me? That's right, never. Not in the 3 years I've abused it. Do you know how many times the spanking new windows mobile smart phone from my company crashed? Yeah that's right, twice on the first day. Once my boss was calling and the stupid thing didn't even ring.
Do you know how many times our Sparc enterprise file server crashed? That's right, no down time since the last upgrade 5 months ago. Know how many times our windows machines crash? Yeah, any time you sneeze at them.
It's people like you who end up making excuses for microsoft's failures that drag standards of "acceptability" down below the sewer.
Do you know how many times our Sparc enterprise file server crashed? That's right, no down time since the last upgrade 5 months ago. Know how many times our windows machines crash? Yeah, any time you sneeze at them.
It's people like you who end up making excuses for microsoft's failures that drag standards of "acceptability" down below the sewer.
Sorry, linux is limited to the same thing MS is, the applications not the OS instability.
The reason linux appears so stable is that there have really only been simple apps for linux.
The reason linux appears so stable is that there have really only been simple apps for linux.
Linux is used for everything windows is, mission critical as well as recreation.
I think that to make the claim that Linux is only used with simple apps would require a very broad definition of 'simple'
The major holdup to Linux taking a bigger chunk of the desktop market is NOT that linux is incapable, it is that software producers build for the largest market, the largest market is not always the 'best'. The simple fact that there are far more chevies on the road than there are cadillacs, and more caddillacs than Rolls Royces, Does NOT mean that RR is inferior
Millions of plastic spoons are given away each day with fast food, in diners, pizza parlors, take outs etc. Therefore, based solely on market share, an arguement -could- be made that people -prefer- them over their metallic counterparts.
Ken.
I think that to make the claim that Linux is only used with simple apps would require a very broad definition of 'simple'
The major holdup to Linux taking a bigger chunk of the desktop market is NOT that linux is incapable, it is that software producers build for the largest market, the largest market is not always the 'best'. The simple fact that there are far more chevies on the road than there are cadillacs, and more caddillacs than Rolls Royces, Does NOT mean that RR is inferior
Millions of plastic spoons are given away each day with fast food, in diners, pizza parlors, take outs etc. Therefore, based solely on market share, an arguement -could- be made that people -prefer- them over their metallic counterparts.
Ken.
The application with the car is not developed by Virtual Events but by Total Immersion. It's called augmented reality. Augmented reality adds virtual objects to live videos. For more information visit www.touchingmedia.nl.
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