Vista Loader - Working Vista SP1 activation hack
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Working Vista SP1 activation hack
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RE: Working Vista SP1 activation hack (Vista Loader - Working Vista SP1 activation hack)
And start charging a real, sane amount for Vista. Personally, I have a computer that I am running a cracked version of Vista on that had a real version of Vista on it..... you know why I cracked it? Because after re-installing over the original image to fix some problems, born from my own stupidity....... it wouldn't active as being a pre-installed version anymore, and Toshiba would not give me a installation key for my computer.... they said "Use the re-image disks!" which would blow away everything on my hard drive, and I am NOT doing that!
Yes you may get away with installing a hacked copy of Windows Vista for a while. However, Microsoft will catch up with you sometime. Then you will not be able to download up dates or patches.
People are justifying using a hacked copy of Vista by saying Microsoft is chargeing to much for Vista. Microsoft has to charge what the do because people steal so many copies.
My reply to that as a reseler is this what you are doing is stealing no mater how you look at it. If don't like the price there is Lyniks.
The other thing is you do not like the price of vista WELL THEN STOP STEALING IT!! It cost Microsoft money when people take and hack their copy of Vista. Then maybe the price will go down.
People are justifying using a hacked copy of Vista by saying Microsoft is chargeing to much for Vista. Microsoft has to charge what the do because people steal so many copies.
My reply to that as a reseler is this what you are doing is stealing no mater how you look at it. If don't like the price there is Lyniks.
The other thing is you do not like the price of vista WELL THEN STOP STEALING IT!! It cost Microsoft money when people take and hack their copy of Vista. Then maybe the price will go down.
He stated very clearly that he owns a licenced copy of Vista, but can't use it. His cracked copy is running on the machine that has the license.
What he did is not stealing. He's making use of available resources to use a product that he legally has a license for.
Before you go professing your faith in Big Brother (BillG, SteveB & co.), look at how long the hack took to be released: hours... not even days. It takes M$ month, sometimes years to come up with a fix, and hackers break it in hours.
And as for the price going down, consider that Microsoft products are among the most expensive software titles in the world, and their prices keep rising with each major release. I can't justify paying up to US$400 just to turn the machine on, and another US$600 to be productive. We're talking about US$1000 Retail to get use out of a machine that doesn't even cost that much to build. It's like buying a car, then taking out a second mortgage to put fuel in it.
Also, before you open your mouth and remove all doubt ("better to be thought a fool..."), learn how to spell. I've been using Ubuntu Linux for 16 months, and my machine is running faster and more reliable than it ever did with Win-XP.
What he did is not stealing. He's making use of available resources to use a product that he legally has a license for.
Before you go professing your faith in Big Brother (BillG, SteveB & co.), look at how long the hack took to be released: hours... not even days. It takes M$ month, sometimes years to come up with a fix, and hackers break it in hours.
And as for the price going down, consider that Microsoft products are among the most expensive software titles in the world, and their prices keep rising with each major release. I can't justify paying up to US$400 just to turn the machine on, and another US$600 to be productive. We're talking about US$1000 Retail to get use out of a machine that doesn't even cost that much to build. It's like buying a car, then taking out a second mortgage to put fuel in it.
Also, before you open your mouth and remove all doubt ("better to be thought a fool..."), learn how to spell. I've been using Ubuntu Linux for 16 months, and my machine is running faster and more reliable than it ever did with Win-XP.
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I'm a reseller, and an OEM, and a repair guy. I've spent in excess of 800 hours on the phone with India since this annoying activation scheme started a few years ago, simply trying to activate/reactivate absolutely legit copies of their software. Every hack that comes along is one more temptation to skip the absolute waste associated with the most profitable company on the planet becoming ever more profitable.
And that whole bag of drivel MS uses to try to convince us that they're doing it for our good, the good of the honest retailers, is idiocy at it's finest. If they were truly attempting to level the playing field, not increase their profits, they'd charge Dell, and Lenovo, and HP, and the rest of the majors the same price per copy they charge us little guys. But, they don't. So the big guys help the big guys get richer, while helping to insure us little guys never get big enough to be a threat to the status quo.
Snarl on, McRuuph. Just don't be surprised if the rest of us giggle when you do.
And that whole bag of drivel MS uses to try to convince us that they're doing it for our good, the good of the honest retailers, is idiocy at it's finest. If they were truly attempting to level the playing field, not increase their profits, they'd charge Dell, and Lenovo, and HP, and the rest of the majors the same price per copy they charge us little guys. But, they don't. So the big guys help the big guys get richer, while helping to insure us little guys never get big enough to be a threat to the status quo.
Snarl on, McRuuph. Just don't be surprised if the rest of us giggle when you do.
You know the old saying (or a liberate version, off of my head), any copy protection scheme makes trouble only for the real owner...
This again proves the above, however, sad it is.
This again proves the above, however, sad it is.
This is precisely the same problem I had with Microsoft starting with windows XP. It reoccurred with my legit copies of vista 32 and vista 64.
So guess what? I have cracks for all three and run the cracked version. Not because I hate Microsoft because I do not. I do it so I do not have to deal with some fellow who does not have English as his first language and thinks I am out to rip him and Microsoft off.
I gave up talking to such fools back in the windows XP early days. Thank god for folks like Paradox. I would still be suffering were it not for them.
And lastly no I will not send you my hacks. Go to Google and find them for your selves. Or you might find them quicker at Yahoo considering the goings on of the last 5 to 7 days.
So guess what? I have cracks for all three and run the cracked version. Not because I hate Microsoft because I do not. I do it so I do not have to deal with some fellow who does not have English as his first language and thinks I am out to rip him and Microsoft off.
I gave up talking to such fools back in the windows XP early days. Thank god for folks like Paradox. I would still be suffering were it not for them.
And lastly no I will not send you my hacks. Go to Google and find them for your selves. Or you might find them quicker at Yahoo considering the goings on of the last 5 to 7 days.
But no actual link. It's either FUD or they're so afraid that they can't publically reveal it.
... trust me if I can find it any one can. Just keep looking.
I'm back to using XP anyway.
Although it might be good for cracking my dad's Vista machine
Just curious, that's all...
Although it might be good for cracking my dad's Vista machine
Just curious, that's all...
nothing special here, anything microsoft will always be:
1.) hacked
2.) cracked
3.) broken into
4.) keylogged
once you accept it we can move on and not worry about it. Well while im at it.. might as well say "anything" that gets popular.. like the ipod, iphone, and psp. Things that popular always get hacked (as you can see from the ipod/iphone/psp hacks already)
1.) hacked
2.) cracked
3.) broken into
4.) keylogged
once you accept it we can move on and not worry about it. Well while im at it.. might as well say "anything" that gets popular.. like the ipod, iphone, and psp. Things that popular always get hacked (as you can see from the ipod/iphone/psp hacks already)
When you come right out and say that Vista SP1 can't be hacked as easy as previous versions, it is like saying "give it your best shot" and the masses will respond with this type of thing.
People complain that the price of Windows Vista is so expencive. They even justify using hacked copies of Windows Vista by saying that it cost so much if they would just lower the price then I would not have to steal a copy of Windows Vista. Bull crap the reason why Widows Vista cost so much is because of you hackers that come up with ways to steal Windows Vista. Yes when you do not pay for something it is stealing no matter how you look at it!!!
If it wasn't for hackers, Vista would cost 99 cents, and Microsoft would still make billions and billions.
Funny how nobody tries to hack copies of Linux. Are you saying that's why it's free?
Funny how nobody tries to hack copies of Linux. Are you saying that's why it's free?
Linux works as it is community based so if you find something bad, you can file a bug report or come up with a solution. Linux automatically lets you set up user accounts which lets you use whatever you install or use - leaving "root" to do all the system and security installations which makes Linux more secure.
Windows, on the other hand, doesn't automatically tell users that they have "root" access to their system which can mean that users are less secure as far as having access to system utilities, security patches, viruses, etc.
Windows, on the other hand, doesn't automatically tell users that they have "root" access to their system which can mean that users are less secure as far as having access to system utilities, security patches, viruses, etc.
Linux is Free as in Speech. It may also be Free as in Beer, especially the Linux kernel, but not necessarily so. Distributors may charge for disks or access to downloads for their distributions should they choose to do so as the GPL license allows for that.
Keep in mind that Open Source is freedom to do with it whatever you want. That is the freedom that Open Source gives you and why it is superior to closed source software. It is the main reason why I like Linux and all the Open Source software that comes with so much. I can customize my installation in ways that you can never do with closed source like Windows. You can make changes and you don't even have to share those changes (as long as you don't redistribute your changes).
Keep in mind that Open Source is freedom to do with it whatever you want. That is the freedom that Open Source gives you and why it is superior to closed source software. It is the main reason why I like Linux and all the Open Source software that comes with so much. I can customize my installation in ways that you can never do with closed source like Windows. You can make changes and you don't even have to share those changes (as long as you don't redistribute your changes).
you stole your car, your home, your.. well.. everything? Because they cost so much? Sorry "dude" - stealing is stealing, no matter what it is or who you stole it from.
Microsoft can charge whatever they want for Vista. They made the software, so that is their right.
Now look at it objectively. MS came out with XP, then they started looking for 64-bit and came up with Vista after how long? Microsoft puts one hell of an investment of time and money into making this software, and that's not even factoring in the 64-bit and 32-bit seperate versions.
Once any hacker out there has spent 3 years developing something they might understand. Since that will never happen due to short attention span and ADD, I'm just talking to myself.
Now look at it objectively. MS came out with XP, then they started looking for 64-bit and came up with Vista after how long? Microsoft puts one hell of an investment of time and money into making this software, and that's not even factoring in the 64-bit and 32-bit seperate versions.
Once any hacker out there has spent 3 years developing something they might understand. Since that will never happen due to short attention span and ADD, I'm just talking to myself.
I say the idea of making an expensive top-heavy proprietary O/S that is essentially a tool for enforcing DRM at high performance cost to the consumer, and making it difficult to keep activated at that, is abhorrent to me personally. Therefore, I use, promote, and support Ubuntu.
I feel GOOD about doing so. How many Vista users feel that way?
I feel GOOD about doing so. How many Vista users feel that way?
Is that really a business model that is going to work in general? Maybe that is why Unix/Linux, etc havent penetrated as widely as Microencephal-soft.
"whoM you stole it from"
I'm sure as hell not forking out a few hundred bucks to see if they "got this one right." Thank god I didn't - I feel for all the folks that got sucked into it with new machines and had to pay additional money to have service providers take them back to XP. So that crack helped me make an informed decision not to let THEM steal hundreds of dollars from ME.
Can't says I blame them, IF it's true...
Before you go spouting off about the price being so high because of theft, why don't you actually do some checking?
Check the price of a legitimate copy of Vista in China and other countries.
Microsoft lowered the price to under $30 USD at one time to try to gain a foothold there.
Very few took advantage because of the problems with activation. It's actually easier to patch it, and people will usually do what is easier.
I have 2 PC's that came with Vista. Both now run Mepis Linux and cracked copies of XP because as a consumer, not a large business I cannot legally "downgrade" to XP.
Am I stealing XP under the laws of the USSA? Yep. Morally? Nope.
Since I was given no choice I will make my own, and take the consequences.
The moral of this story is.
Sell a good product at a reasonable price, and with good support, and trust your customers and you will prosper.(Grateful Dead)
Sell **** at a high price, and limit your customers choices and you will fail.
Personally, I see this as a struggle between freedom and the the controllers. Corporate/government interests will always try to control and limit the choices of people.
People will fight back anyway they can.
Like not paying the tax on tea.
One man's traitor is another's patriot.
Check the price of a legitimate copy of Vista in China and other countries.
Microsoft lowered the price to under $30 USD at one time to try to gain a foothold there.
Very few took advantage because of the problems with activation. It's actually easier to patch it, and people will usually do what is easier.
I have 2 PC's that came with Vista. Both now run Mepis Linux and cracked copies of XP because as a consumer, not a large business I cannot legally "downgrade" to XP.
Am I stealing XP under the laws of the USSA? Yep. Morally? Nope.
Since I was given no choice I will make my own, and take the consequences.
The moral of this story is.
Sell a good product at a reasonable price, and with good support, and trust your customers and you will prosper.(Grateful Dead)
Sell **** at a high price, and limit your customers choices and you will fail.
Personally, I see this as a struggle between freedom and the the controllers. Corporate/government interests will always try to control and limit the choices of people.
People will fight back anyway they can.
Like not paying the tax on tea.
One man's traitor is another's patriot.
"XP because as a consumer, not a large business I cannot legally "downgrade" to XP."
I don't get this, if XP is what you want, you can legally "downgrade" by simply purchasing XP. You can still get it retail or you can buy an OEM version from your local computer store or even eBay. You don't *have* to use the software that came with the PC. That's why I buy my PCs without an OS-I have enough OS licenses of all types.
I'm glad to see that at least you recognize you are breaking the laws as they are currently written and are willing to take the consequences instead of making excuses.
I don't get this, if XP is what you want, you can legally "downgrade" by simply purchasing XP. You can still get it retail or you can buy an OEM version from your local computer store or even eBay. You don't *have* to use the software that came with the PC. That's why I buy my PCs without an OS-I have enough OS licenses of all types.
I'm glad to see that at least you recognize you are breaking the laws as they are currently written and are willing to take the consequences instead of making excuses.
Call it what you like. Hacking is just an "acceptable" word for stealing. If you thought the price of a steak was too high at the meat market, would you just walk in and take it? I think not. I don't understand how people can justify taking and using a product without paying for it, no matter what the cost.
If you use software, don't pay for it if it is commercial, and use a keygen to generate a key or usa cracked binary, then yes, that is stealing. If I buy a PC that comes with Vista, then I have a legal copy of the OS. Now, if I bypass the activiation in some way, using either some date shifting or some 'hacking' tool, or "trick" the OS into thinking it is activating with a Microsoft KMS server, then I may have violated the EULA but I have not stolen anything from Microsoft-they were paid for the software by the OEM. They may have the right to demand that I either not use the activation bypass or even terminate my use of the OS and demand that I uninstall it, but it is not stealing.
Now, if I buy a PC with Vista Home installed and I use 'hacking' tools to make it a different version (Home Premium, Ultimate, etc), then at that point I've stolen from Microsoft because they were ony paid for Vista Home by the PC OEM and by extension, I only paid for Vista Home.
Now, if I buy a PC with Vista Home installed and I use 'hacking' tools to make it a different version (Home Premium, Ultimate, etc), then at that point I've stolen from Microsoft because they were ony paid for Vista Home by the PC OEM and by extension, I only paid for Vista Home.
There are two issues here. Both of which you've misread. The first concerns people with genuine copies of software that they can't use without a hack because of re-activation issues. The other concerns consumer reaction to an overpriced poorly developed piece of software. You're analogy with the meat market is slightly misplaced. What you should be comparing Microsoft software with, is a restaurant. Most people would not expect to pay for a late, cold, unappetising meal in an expensive restaurant. This is where most consumers see themselves with much of what comes out of Microsoft. Microsoft is the restaurant and most of the software they produce is late, cold, and unappetising. The problem for Microsoft is that because it's not an odd occurrence and they have such a bad reputation, people actually now expect to visit the restaurant with the specific aim of getting a free meal!
Hacking is what the person who created the program did. The people who use it are stealing/hacking(by way of a script).
What is really surprising to me is that this hack has been out in the wild unchanged since March 15 2007(according to the file stamp date in the download). I am glad they left this one working or setting up temporary VMs to test things would become a major irritation.
What is really surprising to me is that this hack has been out in the wild unchanged since March 15 2007(according to the file stamp date in the download). I am glad they left this one working or setting up temporary VMs to test things would become a major irritation.
I think that given the choice between paying 250 bucks for a license I already have, delete all my files and lose all my settings and spend five minutes bypassing the activation process, I'd take the latter - if I pay for an operating system, not to destroy my files or to pay for it again and again.
In this kind of case, Vista is a pain - a crack is the only sensible solution to use the product as it is intended to be used.
However, I won't crack Vista: I merely switched OS, for one that doesn't have a price tag, which is pretty safe, and which doesn't phone home my browsing history every five hours.
Yes, Windows has a file called TempFile in /WINDOWS, which doesn't get flushed when you clean up your IE cache. Don't look for it from Windows, you won't find it: Windows Explorer hides it away completely (it's hardcoded). You may kill it from the Safe Mode prompt or from a Linux LiveCD.
In this kind of case, Vista is a pain - a crack is the only sensible solution to use the product as it is intended to be used.
However, I won't crack Vista: I merely switched OS, for one that doesn't have a price tag, which is pretty safe, and which doesn't phone home my browsing history every five hours.
Yes, Windows has a file called TempFile in /WINDOWS, which doesn't get flushed when you clean up your IE cache. Don't look for it from Windows, you won't find it: Windows Explorer hides it away completely (it's hardcoded). You may kill it from the Safe Mode prompt or from a Linux LiveCD.
Maybe next someone will figure out a way to hack my Ubuntu activation! Oh, wait a minute . . . :-))
Started with Feisty almost a year ago, now a Gutsy guy.
There are always people around that think that knowing how to hack makes them intelligent, and so they do just that. No matter what Microsoft does there's going to be some guy living with is mother hacking their programs. The funny thing about it is that these idiots could simply invest the same amount of time into doing something useful and probably make something of themselves instead of waiting to go to prison.
The not-so-funny part is that some of these freaks target working-class individuals like myself with viruses that steal credit card information and ruin people's lives. At least Microsoft hacks are laughable.
The not-so-funny part is that some of these freaks target working-class individuals like myself with viruses that steal credit card information and ruin people's lives. At least Microsoft hacks are laughable.
Can I pull out the violins? The tears are flowing down my cheeks.
(sweet violin music playing in the background...)
(sweet violin music playing in the background...)
Well, if they charged an assinine amount of money for the steak, it tasted like crap and came preinstalled on my plate, yes - that meat market is INVITING people to steal it.
Oh I won't be able to have the freshest veggies if I don't get your new steak? So far, everyone has said it tastes like butt and it's your most unreasonably priced steak ever?
And to see if I would like it, I have to steal it? Hey meat man... look over there!
Oh I won't be able to have the freshest veggies if I don't get your new steak? So far, everyone has said it tastes like butt and it's your most unreasonably priced steak ever?
And to see if I would like it, I have to steal it? Hey meat man... look over there!
I don't understand all this talk about Vista being so expensive. I bought a name brand laptop on sale from a well known national chain recently and only paid $481 including tax. If vista is as expensive as some say it is then the laptop cost me $49 and most of the tax was for the software. That's a pretty good price for dual core processor, 120G HD, super DVD burner, 1G ram, 15.4 display, etc... plus, I don't think they charge extra for the service pack do they?
He was talking about a license for a non-new PC. Your Vista is practically free on a new PC because of kickbacks from crapware installers.
If Microsoft was subjected to real competition such as Intel/AMD and nVidia/ATI, then Vista would be cheaper, smaller, faster, etc.
Yes. I know AMD has bought ATI.
Notice how fast, cheap and feature filled CPU's are today. Same with video cards. How I wish for a better Windows! Better doesn't necessarily mean more features (or bloat).
Office 2007 is an improvement over Office 2003. This is because OpenOffice was becoming a valid competitor.
(Office 2003 was not much of a change from earlier versions.)
Yes. I know AMD has bought ATI.
Notice how fast, cheap and feature filled CPU's are today. Same with video cards. How I wish for a better Windows! Better doesn't necessarily mean more features (or bloat).
Office 2007 is an improvement over Office 2003. This is because OpenOffice was becoming a valid competitor.
(Office 2003 was not much of a change from earlier versions.)
i'm responsible, for installing deploying, Microsoft, os, apps, in various places, all legal.
what i think of microsoft's activation, and licensing charges, are completely, off the scale.
as for people hacking, vista, why not, what right does microsoft, have to phone home, about MY PC, not microsoft's not anybody else's.
what i pay for is mine to do what i please, not to make bill gates richer.
any big giant, needs to come down, more power to the non malicious hackers.
as for all those coders, that are working for microsoft, well who cares, what about all the people, out there who are producing, excellent pieces of software for free, all because they can, and want to help out.
the only thing microsoft wants, is too take over the world.
the way they look at security, at networking...etc, is all non standard, and obviously, over how many years, has microsoft, had problems
all these software giants, must be kept, in there place, just like goverments, we need more Davids, to their goliaths.
what i think of microsoft's activation, and licensing charges, are completely, off the scale.
as for people hacking, vista, why not, what right does microsoft, have to phone home, about MY PC, not microsoft's not anybody else's.
what i pay for is mine to do what i please, not to make bill gates richer.
any big giant, needs to come down, more power to the non malicious hackers.
as for all those coders, that are working for microsoft, well who cares, what about all the people, out there who are producing, excellent pieces of software for free, all because they can, and want to help out.
the only thing microsoft wants, is too take over the world.
the way they look at security, at networking...etc, is all non standard, and obviously, over how many years, has microsoft, had problems
all these software giants, must be kept, in there place, just like goverments, we need more Davids, to their goliaths.
Microsoft's OS. It's in the EULA and you are not required to use it. Microsoft has every right to require activation of THEIR product. You do not own any Microsoft OS. You are only granted a license for use.
There are many other choices for OSes, all better in my opinion. If you don't like the terms, then don't install it. It's really that simple. If you hack it and violate the EULA, then don't complain if MS "breaks" your hack by checking for it. That's why for my business and my back end systems I only use what I like, Unix and its various versions.
We play games with our Windows installations and we put up with whatever terms both Microsoft and the game manufacturers (which are now similiar) lay down because we want to play those games.
Actually, activation is a game in itself.
There are many other choices for OSes, all better in my opinion. If you don't like the terms, then don't install it. It's really that simple. If you hack it and violate the EULA, then don't complain if MS "breaks" your hack by checking for it. That's why for my business and my back end systems I only use what I like, Unix and its various versions.
We play games with our Windows installations and we put up with whatever terms both Microsoft and the game manufacturers (which are now similiar) lay down because we want to play those games.
Actually, activation is a game in itself.
The only rights Microsoft has are the rights that we collectivly allow them to have, please draw an alalogy between this and the pre revolution colonists were they wrong to break the law as defined by good ol George? People rule, no governments, not companies without consumer support MS would go the way of OS/2! It is up to the individual what role they want to play in excercising thier right to influence what is and what is not legal. As for me, I stop them at the firewall on they way out the door! I resurect and use all prior versions of the OSes that I have purchased (I got them for a reason and the reason does not disapear with "newer" "better") If it is not backward compatable I have a righteous grievance that I determine gives me certain rights not covered in the ELUA and while my choice is to not hack, (I would if I could "read knew how") I support these folks with the position they are taking against King Bill and his unlawful (from a consumers rights position) actions. I do not under any circumstances wish to deprive true geniuos from making a fair profit at thier endeavors but don't tread on me!!!!!
and only if free market forces are allowed to take effect and the government does not meddle in it.
Just wait until you get a corrupted system file and have to reinstall. If you did not take advantage of your oem burn reinstall disk option then you have a cheap laptop without an os. To reinstall windows you need to purchase a copy. Whether from your laptop manufacturer or Microsoft, but you will need to purchase a copy.
Every legal VISTA comes with a CD.
Why not make a back-up and simply re-install?
Why not make a back-up and simply re-install?
Because all software, etc., would all have to be reinstalled & btw., legal VISTA can also be legally activated..:)
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