Who is going to take the blame when errantly a host running Vista decides it isn't WGA-compliant especially in a patient care or mission-critical setting?
There's going to be A LOT of 'finger pointing' going on.
Windows Vista running in reduced functionality mode
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This gallery shows you what you can expect from Windows Vista when it enters reduced functionality mode.
This is an unactivated copy of Windows Vista running in Virtual PC 2007. Things are currently running normally - but this is about to change as I push the date forward to 1 day after the deadline for activation.
This is an unactivated copy of Windows Vista running in Virtual PC 2007. Things are currently running normally - but this is about to change as I push the date forward to 1 day after the deadline for activation.
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When these issues occur on LEGAL installations of Vista, it's Microsoft's fault. Period.
Like having to have WGA validation EVERY time you try to download a file. What, has this thing got Alshiemers or something? It can't remember it's been validated 100 times already?
Microsoft doesn't care. Monopolies don't HAVE to care about their customers, and Microsoft proves that daily.
Like having to have WGA validation EVERY time you try to download a file. What, has this thing got Alshiemers or something? It can't remember it's been validated 100 times already?
Microsoft doesn't care. Monopolies don't HAVE to care about their customers, and Microsoft proves that daily.
The reason Vista calls home periodically and re-authenticates is because MS knows you're a thief (they must have been talking to the RIAA) and they know you've uploaded your license key to the warez sites and they are checking because they know your key is going to show up on their black list and they need to de-activate your copy of Vista for no longer having a valid key.
Microsoft would really give a crap. If it means they make a few extra thousand I'm certain they don't much give a rip who is falsely accused and/or wrongly locked down. It's not about right or wrong, it's about money.
I just was asked to validate, not the first time, my copy of XP. Thye informed me that this would happen peridically. I agree with one reader who asked can't they remember? It all boils down to money. They (MS) could care less about the user. Big business not independent users are their pririty. So we just have to suck it up or do without. I am going to do without MS as much as possible.
Therefore why does Microsoft "care" about end users at all?
Hurry up Linux, get those Windows emulation programs to a usable level...
Hurry up Linux, get those Windows emulation programs to a usable level...
Even Corporate Users have to activate. MS requires that companies that will have huge roll outs have their KMS (Key Management Server) running on the network so that the enterprise and business editions (which most businesses will buy) will check in with the KMS every six months or possibly deactivate. If there were so many damn thieves out there stealing MS apps this would not be necessary. But they complain all day that MS is squeezing them, but they steal software. That is what happens when you steal - the sw maker clamps down and it hurts everyone. Dont use it if you dont like that. Use one of the other "so-called" alternatives. 
Linux will never get to this level. Their development style requires volunteerism. You can't build an XP or Vista replacement with Volunteer dollars and he be enterprise useable, standardized and fully compatible with other businesses running Windows. Think about it. If it really was that easy, it would be done already and some mayor 100,000 seat corporation would have signed up and it be the talk of the tech world. But it hasn't happened and never will. MS has to far of a headstart and too many billions. I am not saying "alternatives" are a lost cause. I am saying, if you think ANY solution is going to REPLACE MS WINDOWS in any version available today or future, EN MASS, you are dreaming. Deal with it!
Linux will never get to this level. Their development style requires volunteerism. You can't build an XP or Vista replacement with Volunteer dollars and he be enterprise useable, standardized and fully compatible with other businesses running Windows. Think about it. If it really was that easy, it would be done already and some mayor 100,000 seat corporation would have signed up and it be the talk of the tech world. But it hasn't happened and never will. MS has to far of a headstart and too many billions. I am not saying "alternatives" are a lost cause. I am saying, if you think ANY solution is going to REPLACE MS WINDOWS in any version available today or future, EN MASS, you are dreaming. Deal with it! 
Why is MS Windows everywhere? Because they refuse to sell to major OEMs at a nice low price if they sell anything else. There are a few Linux OEMs, but due to their size, they can't get good price deals on hardware and reduce their prices to the same level the other OEMs can. That's why System76 doesn't sell as low as Dell, and that's why Dell is more likely to get the business. System76's prices have gone down quite a bit though. They're pretty reasonable really, I just haven't bought a computer in so long the inflation surprised me. Oh, that's another thing. The companies can save money by running Linux on old hardware instead of buying new computers. And they wouldn't have to worry about blue screens. Linux is very stable (more than Windows can say)
Sounds like a reply from someone that has not tried Ubuntu. Ubuntu and Linspire are merging to create a very useful Linux.
I agree with you 100%: if you don't like windows, switch to Linux (or buy a Mac). On the other part, I dispute your facts.
100,000 seat corporations have already switched to open source. (Your misstyped mayor is amusing since many cities have switched): Munich was one of the first. Massachusets mandated open file formats already (pioneered by open source), forcing MS into promising open file formats themselves. 75% of the world's web servers are running on open source, built on volunteer dollars. I have been "living in Linux" since 1996, and have freely exchanged files and connectivity with Windows since then.
Sure, I have had occasional problems, but no worse than users of different MS office version have experienced.
100,000 seat corporations have already switched to open source. (Your misstyped mayor is amusing since many cities have switched): Munich was one of the first. Massachusets mandated open file formats already (pioneered by open source), forcing MS into promising open file formats themselves. 75% of the world's web servers are running on open source, built on volunteer dollars. I have been "living in Linux" since 1996, and have freely exchanged files and connectivity with Windows since then.
Sure, I have had occasional problems, but no worse than users of different MS office version have experienced.
I had an issue where I had an Microsoft Office problem. When I used the, "repair," option it killed my WGA. I went to the MS site and sent an email saying what my problem was. In a few hours I was issued an issue number and was informed who was handling my issue. I sent an email with my phone number. I got a call back from the person handling my issue. I sent what information that was asked for.
In the meantime I decided to wipe my drive and start with a clean install. I was able to activate and get WGA automatically. I still got a call back from an MS rep asking if I wanted to keep the issue open. I explained what I did and said they can close the issue.
From all that I went through I got the definite impression that Microsoft seriously wants to investigate every issue that breaks WGA. All software can be corrupted. As much as WGA is hated, I do believe Microsoft is not an evil empire that doesn't care.
In the meantime I decided to wipe my drive and start with a clean install. I was able to activate and get WGA automatically. I still got a call back from an MS rep asking if I wanted to keep the issue open. I explained what I did and said they can close the issue.
From all that I went through I got the definite impression that Microsoft seriously wants to investigate every issue that breaks WGA. All software can be corrupted. As much as WGA is hated, I do believe Microsoft is not an evil empire that doesn't care.
At what point does the added hassle of registering and another wave of updates and intrusive anti-piracy measures overcome the usefulness?
I know that a lot of people out there would still be using Win98 if it was getting updates. I'm sure the vast majority of XP users are going to ride that out until it's no longer supported, and probably even further.
Microsoft is handing the corporate world to Linux, if the Linux people can get their at in gear.
I know that a lot of people out there would still be using Win98 if it was getting updates. I'm sure the vast majority of XP users are going to ride that out until it's no longer supported, and probably even further.
Microsoft is handing the corporate world to Linux, if the Linux people can get their at in gear.
are and Microsoft making me angry with their WGA. I left Windows ME and 98SE for Windows XP. I'd still use Windows 98SE at home on a old PC. I can deal crashes by imaging a drive and backups, but WGA you can't do this, even in XP. I tried it and it called me a thief, so I called support they said about the same thing......still they did help. I won't buy Vista, not untill MS gets it right.............
I've been using Linux on my Internet PC. Now only if the hardware makers would fully support the Linux OS and at home I could run my games I fully go Linux.
I like to remind Microsoft I don't steal; I don't like it when the WGA says this isn't genuine. That says I'm a thief to me. LOUDLY & CLEARLY!
I've been using Linux on my Internet PC. Now only if the hardware makers would fully support the Linux OS and at home I could run my games I fully go Linux.
I like to remind Microsoft I don't steal; I don't like it when the WGA says this isn't genuine. That says I'm a thief to me. LOUDLY & CLEARLY!
Before u chuck your current machine I encourage u to at least download and burn a live distro or two. maybe pclinuxos or ubuntu both are live distros so just pop it in the cd drive and boot. If u don't like it, your out a quarter. If u like it you save the price of an apple.
I have spent the last year or so switching to Linux. I got frustrated with the daily updates to XP and all the fuss and clutter. I will admit that I still have a few Windoze app's that I can't quite replace easily in Linux, but my dual boot systems spend over 98% of their time in Linux.
Every time I read about about the silliness being perpetrated on innocent users of the latest MS Windows, I feel happy about my decision to simply forget Windows.
Every time I read about about the silliness being perpetrated on innocent users of the latest MS Windows, I feel happy about my decision to simply forget Windows.
This headline would work nicely: "Unix, coming to a PC near you." Businesses do not enjoy spending precious hours getting IT to fix this garbage while they have legit keys in hand. IT has better things to do. Home users don't deserve to be constantly checking in with their PCs seeing if they are ok. PCs are not pets. Even if a KMS is present, or a legit key is bought, the only way to prevent major disruptions from happening is to uninstall the OS. Props go to the "Finger pointing" response. I seriously hope nothing goes wrong in the medical sector, if anyone reading this is having problems with their computer that contains time sensitive information, slap a Knoppix CD with OpenOffice.org in there immediately.
Microsoft's whole approach with WGA is to start from a presumption of the
customer's guilt and illegality. Yet I seem to remember isn't it Microsoft that has
spent years in court and been found guilty?
The number of times I have had to recover and reinstall Windows XP and then
perform the updates and the activation because of the non-existent BSOD. It
made me make the leap to the Mac without regrets. By the Way in XP the only
reason that the BSOD does not exist in Microsoft's eyes is because they change the
default settings to do an automatic reboot after a BSOD. Which makes trouble
shooting REALLY painful!
Why do legitimate customers want this pain? Microsoft needs to rethink their
strategy.
customer's guilt and illegality. Yet I seem to remember isn't it Microsoft that has
spent years in court and been found guilty?
The number of times I have had to recover and reinstall Windows XP and then
perform the updates and the activation because of the non-existent BSOD. It
made me make the leap to the Mac without regrets. By the Way in XP the only
reason that the BSOD does not exist in Microsoft's eyes is because they change the
default settings to do an automatic reboot after a BSOD. Which makes trouble
shooting REALLY painful!
Why do legitimate customers want this pain? Microsoft needs to rethink their
strategy.
Unless the computer is re-architected from scratch, which will not happen in the next 100 years, we are set on a path of never-ending misery. Windows Vista proves it.
John C. Dvorak
PC Magazine
Jan 29, 2007
John C. Dvorak
PC Magazine
Jan 29, 2007
It was discovered windows 2000 cost about 7.95 a license to develop - if Micorsoft sold the licenses for 19.95, they would almost tripled their investment, more licenses would be sold and they would not have to create "Anti Piracy" deptartments eating millions of dollars of their profit.
Bottom line - make the OS so cheap, it's easier to buy than to steal and you won't have to worry about piracy.
Bottom line - make the OS so cheap, it's easier to buy than to steal and you won't have to worry about piracy.
A good idea. What happened to the price was suppposed to go down because of this anti-piracy junk too? Prices never went down, Vista is more $$$, not less.
So, Windows Activation works as promised, is what your saying? If you don't activate it, it doesn't work?
How many of you actually plan to EVER use Vista? See, the reason I am asking is because almost every time I see an article like this, the "TalkBack" is full of Apple-Mac users and Linux and Ubuntu's ETC..ad infinitum, all saying how their software is the best and that everyone should switch and how evil Microsoft really is, because they won't let everyone have their software for free and how bad Microsoft is for being a company that makes products that admittedly has experienced quite a few problems. My point is - if Microsoft products are so bad, why do you even care? Is it so terrible that some people WANT to use a product that is sometimes buggy? Are all of you also going on the Ford, Chevy and Volkswagen websites and telling all of those people how bad their cars are - because some of their cars got recalled and they should ONLY buy Hondas or Toyotas just like the one you drive, because your cars are all manufactured by a collective of volunteers? Oh wait - they aren't. What is the world coming to? Are all car companies just building cars for PROFIT? Perhaps you can tell that I'm being a little sarcastic. I'm just wondering what it is that motivates people who are so filled with hate of a product to seemingly search out ways to bash it publicly. Is it insecurity that not all of the the six and a half billion people on the planet think exactly like you do? See - when I don't like something, I usually try to avoid it, instead of immersing myself in it. Maybe it's because you are, like myself, I.S/I.T. people and you HAVE to support it and that's why it is so interesting to you and why you feel you have to bash Microsoft and all it's products. Hmmm. Let's see - that means if you only had to support the software/OS of your choice, which never has any problems and is so much more capable than that MS dreck, then what? Would you be out of a job? Would the street corners be filled with guys in rumpled white shirts and coffee-stained ties all holding neatly printed cardboard signs, "Will work for Internet Access and Donuts"? Think about what you are doing on these forums/talkbacks - are you being helpful, or just critical? I'm not even sure what the point of this article is. Is it being informative, or just riling people up and causing controversy for advertising's sake. Oh yeah, didn't you know? This website gives you "free" articles, in hopes that you will BUY things from their sponsors. They have to make a profit too - or didn't you know? How utterly evil of them to want to get paid for providing a service. Bad ZDNet! Bad!
You should really do some research before issuing an ill-thought out chastisement of people complaining about Vista and the ridiculous security measures that they have put in place. Obviously Microsoft deserves to make money on their products (they are doing a fine job of that by the way, so I don't think you need to worry about their financial state). The question is what is their responsibility to the users of their operating system? You're telling me it is now *Microsoft's* responsibility to enforce copyright? It is similar to saying that it is the record player itself that needs to determine whether a record is something that I purchased or borrowed from a friend. If it incorrectly determines that a copy is ill-obtained, like borrowed from a friend, perhaps, it not only will refuse to play that record, but will self-destruct for all further use.
Maybe you should read this first before jumping off the deep end:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Did you realize, for example, that even if you have a legal copy of a DVD and a legal copy of Vista, but your TV isn't recognized in the Microsoft "security" screen, that Windows will output the picture to the TV in "fuzzy" mode? Did you realize that the operating system checks not only your computer but goes all the way down the line to your speakers?
More here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=25124
Did you realize that legitimate software can completely deactivate your system? See here:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=221&tag=nl.e539
Not to mention you talk about piracy - I wonder if MS borrowed anything from Mac in their new release?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaIUkwPybtM
The one point you make that doesn't seem totally driven by emotion that you make is if you don't like it don't use it. I plan to do exactly that, although I have been a Microsoft customer for nearly 2 decades. Fortunately there are a few alternatives these days, and I suspect that Microsoft will drive many people to the competition. Unfortunately I will still be forced to deal with them at work, but at least I can voice my opinion through my pocketbook elsewhere.
I hope that Microsoft takes a hit on this, but they are so huge that I doubt anything could bring them down or even slow them.
Maybe you should read this first before jumping off the deep end:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Did you realize, for example, that even if you have a legal copy of a DVD and a legal copy of Vista, but your TV isn't recognized in the Microsoft "security" screen, that Windows will output the picture to the TV in "fuzzy" mode? Did you realize that the operating system checks not only your computer but goes all the way down the line to your speakers?
More here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=25124
Did you realize that legitimate software can completely deactivate your system? See here:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=221&tag=nl.e539
Not to mention you talk about piracy - I wonder if MS borrowed anything from Mac in their new release?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaIUkwPybtM
The one point you make that doesn't seem totally driven by emotion that you make is if you don't like it don't use it. I plan to do exactly that, although I have been a Microsoft customer for nearly 2 decades. Fortunately there are a few alternatives these days, and I suspect that Microsoft will drive many people to the competition. Unfortunately I will still be forced to deal with them at work, but at least I can voice my opinion through my pocketbook elsewhere.
I hope that Microsoft takes a hit on this, but they are so huge that I doubt anything could bring them down or even slow them.
Excuse me, but even though you show that you're being sarcastic, you are just as guilty of bashing as the people who are legitimately sick and tired of having to deal with Microsoft's BS.
My own business has almost 100% Windows users as customers, and we do have to do a lot of work on those machines. The fact of the matter is that even if they switched to Linux tomorrow (Or BSD or Mac OSX) there'd be almost as much business, because no OS is perfect.
I still think that of all the OSes out there, Windows is bottom-of-the-barrel, for two reasons: Microsoft assumes everyone is a pirate (guilt until proven innocent) and they don't accept said proof of innocence. XP will be supported (according to Microsoft themselves) until 2011, so I expect a lot of folks will put off Vista until they're forced to buy it. As for me? Doing research into which Linux/Unix flavor has the best mix of support for my hardware and computing needs.
(Yes, I'll lose use of thousands of dollars worth of software until Linux distros get Windows emulation locked fully, at least to DirectX 9, but that's part of the whole picture. I will be going to the other OS completely; dual-booting into Windows has proven to be a pain in the butt in the past. (in one extreme case, every time I booted into Windows, it corrupted the partition table.)
My own business has almost 100% Windows users as customers, and we do have to do a lot of work on those machines. The fact of the matter is that even if they switched to Linux tomorrow (Or BSD or Mac OSX) there'd be almost as much business, because no OS is perfect.
I still think that of all the OSes out there, Windows is bottom-of-the-barrel, for two reasons: Microsoft assumes everyone is a pirate (guilt until proven innocent) and they don't accept said proof of innocence. XP will be supported (according to Microsoft themselves) until 2011, so I expect a lot of folks will put off Vista until they're forced to buy it. As for me? Doing research into which Linux/Unix flavor has the best mix of support for my hardware and computing needs.
(Yes, I'll lose use of thousands of dollars worth of software until Linux distros get Windows emulation locked fully, at least to DirectX 9, but that's part of the whole picture. I will be going to the other OS completely; dual-booting into Windows has proven to be a pain in the butt in the past. (in one extreme case, every time I booted into Windows, it corrupted the partition table.)
I use XP. Don't get me wrong I like it.
First thin that annoyed the stuffing out of me when reading your rant, was the use or rather non-use of paragraphs. After a while your words just started to flow together to look like gobbledygook or nonsense. Break it up a little bit.
Here's a little joke about your ?if cars=computer? analogy.
HelpLine: "General Motors HelpLine, how can I help you?"
Customer: "My car just caught fire."
HelpLine: "I see. And what model was it?"
Customer: "1994r Mongoose."
HelpLine: "And your registration number?"
Customer: "426917-woof-271828-arf-314159-spam."
HelpLine: "And where did you buy your car?"
Customer: "Fast Eddie's Sports-o-rama in Glendale."
HelpLine: "And what was the name of the salesman?"
Customer: "I don't remember."
HelpLine: "I see. Are you sure you didn't steal this car?"
Customer: "Of course I didn't steal it!"
HelpLine: "And would you be interested in purchasing our extended service contract?"
Taken from http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-015
Now a little about the EULA in Vista, you can't transfer your copy that you paid $200 to another computer once you install it. It will automatically activate in three days unless you disable that FEATURE.
Microsoft is Wonderful. I love Microsoft. If you believe that I have some nice beach front property in Florida I will sell you real cheap.
First thin that annoyed the stuffing out of me when reading your rant, was the use or rather non-use of paragraphs. After a while your words just started to flow together to look like gobbledygook or nonsense. Break it up a little bit.
Here's a little joke about your ?if cars=computer? analogy.
HelpLine: "General Motors HelpLine, how can I help you?"
Customer: "My car just caught fire."
HelpLine: "I see. And what model was it?"
Customer: "1994r Mongoose."
HelpLine: "And your registration number?"
Customer: "426917-woof-271828-arf-314159-spam."
HelpLine: "And where did you buy your car?"
Customer: "Fast Eddie's Sports-o-rama in Glendale."
HelpLine: "And what was the name of the salesman?"
Customer: "I don't remember."
HelpLine: "I see. Are you sure you didn't steal this car?"
Customer: "Of course I didn't steal it!"
HelpLine: "And would you be interested in purchasing our extended service contract?"
Taken from http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-015
Now a little about the EULA in Vista, you can't transfer your copy that you paid $200 to another computer once you install it. It will automatically activate in three days unless you disable that FEATURE.
Microsoft is Wonderful. I love Microsoft. If you believe that I have some nice beach front property in Florida I will sell you real cheap.
There is NO way I will risk my business on this O/S.
The LOOSER Microsoft
The LOOSER Microsoft
You paid for it. You installed it. It worked. Then it didn't work.
Oops.
Just wait till they do it to Big Oil or Big Bank. Only then will the legality of WGA will be challenged. Do it twice or three times and Linux will take over in weeks. And Billy boys monopoly will cease to exist.
Individually we have no power. Collectively, with a good class action and a good lawyer I think we could probably threaten a dent in MS's pocketbook. Sometime in the next hundred or so years they might even pay up. The whole EU cant make them pay. I think the US courts are still allowing appeals over the Exxon Valdez so what chance do we stand.
I use MS XP Pro cos it came with the box and some software I like to use only runs on MS. If that wasn't the case then i would be using UBUNTU Linux.
just my 2c worth
SC
Oops.
Just wait till they do it to Big Oil or Big Bank. Only then will the legality of WGA will be challenged. Do it twice or three times and Linux will take over in weeks. And Billy boys monopoly will cease to exist.
Individually we have no power. Collectively, with a good class action and a good lawyer I think we could probably threaten a dent in MS's pocketbook. Sometime in the next hundred or so years they might even pay up. The whole EU cant make them pay. I think the US courts are still allowing appeals over the Exxon Valdez so what chance do we stand.
I use MS XP Pro cos it came with the box and some software I like to use only runs on MS. If that wasn't the case then i would be using UBUNTU Linux.
just my 2c worth
SC
I tried vista and the first time the (FU)DRM started pulling that trick, I reformatted the drive and installed an alternate OS (it didn't even last one day). M$ are idiots, I charge more per hour for my labour than than (P)OS costs to buy, I an willing to spend absolutely no time, trying to make in work when it breaks down, and the ass wipes owe me for a 4 hour reformat and reinstall.
Working in a computer shop, have had this happen several times till I just quit doing it. Was using Windows98se and WindowsXP in dual boot. Needed both and I have to check hard drives in both operationg systems. In about a week or two one or the other operating system would loose part of is functions. Then would have to start all over again. Also use three (3) partitions as the third one holds drivers for different hardware. Have even had to fdisk and rebuild the partitions and the reinstall OS's and 2 DVD's in the third partition. Am looking to switch OS soon if i can get the wife interested.
Well I "personally" for 1 can say that Vista has worked quite well for me after the fact of having to tweak drivers, rebuild data and such. The biggest letdown that I have is that Creative has not released a good version of X-FI Drivers yet and while Im in "game" I get this Distorted jerk of a noise but the gameplay is phenominal, grfx are deffinately impressive with the GeForce 7800gs oc( not as impressive as the 8800 gtx but Oh well!) There were bugs and there still are BUGS! But I got most of it figured out, if your having problems I suggest making sure that you have at least a gig of ram( I run 2) 2 ghz CPU, and if your running an X-Fi SoundBlaster PCI disable it and run your onbaord solution to fix the problem until creative ppl get off the jelly-donut eatin asses and release a fix, I had to go to my realtek onboard. If your running GeForce use the 100.64 Vista drivers, no overclocking here boys they havent figured that one out yet.
Maybe it is that only all shortcuts are disabled except certain 'special' ones.
Microsoft is stealing what we have paid for by removing the functionality of XP (and or vista) with the WGA malware. Where is the law in response to these vicious attacks on software that we have paid for?
I don't need to buy Vista.
My computer's already running at reduced functionality!
My computer's already running at reduced functionality!
This is the first version of Windows towards which I am actively hostile. Win 95 pissed me off with its instabilities and 98 annoyed me at times. XP was worse in some ways, but more stable. Vista is a buggy piece of intrusive trash created by a monolithic organization that feels it can shove its substandard junk down our throats, just because they are the mighty Microsoft. They waste my time with their garbage activation system, invade my computer for their own purposes and no doubt use it to market or sell to marketers. My next machine, and my company's machines will be Linux. I never thought I'd say that, but that's a fact. NO MORE!
I've been an early adopter of Windows Vista and love the ease of use and functionality. Truthfully, though my understanding of this article was to explain what a user would see if they have trouble authenticating their CDKEY.
However, we as a user base seem to reply with get linux, mac or some such other trite irresponsible humdrum. Seriously, the idea is in every application that is built to service the needs of the masses. People get paid for a service delivered, not for a service stolen. I am all for making sure that the applications you have are legitimate.
On another note the applications that are open source and available are a good option however, they too have their fair share of issues and irregular behavior. I myself have and will continue to stick with the worlds operating system.
To the others that said: 90% of the online market is now linux distro's - I have to disagree and have another stat for you, most servers are NT/Win2000 Kernels and most web servers run apache on a windows box. Check with your hosting service you will find that this is true. Apache and PHP does not mean linux... But I find that notion to be funny. If 90% of the servers where linux why the heck aren't we seeing more popularity in that realm. With all the $$$ floating around one would think there would be some real advancement in the world of app support for the linux flavor of the month.
Thank You,
However, we as a user base seem to reply with get linux, mac or some such other trite irresponsible humdrum. Seriously, the idea is in every application that is built to service the needs of the masses. People get paid for a service delivered, not for a service stolen. I am all for making sure that the applications you have are legitimate.
On another note the applications that are open source and available are a good option however, they too have their fair share of issues and irregular behavior. I myself have and will continue to stick with the worlds operating system.
To the others that said: 90% of the online market is now linux distro's - I have to disagree and have another stat for you, most servers are NT/Win2000 Kernels and most web servers run apache on a windows box. Check with your hosting service you will find that this is true. Apache and PHP does not mean linux... But I find that notion to be funny. If 90% of the servers where linux why the heck aren't we seeing more popularity in that realm. With all the $$$ floating around one would think there would be some real advancement in the world of app support for the linux flavor of the month.
Thank You,
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