I will never use or recommend (if I can possibly help it) ISPs that make it a policy to block port 25. To me, it defeats the whole purpose of the internet. I want a pipe to the internet so I can use whatever services are available, not some filtered, diminished, restrictive service. Now, Comcast's idea of restricting port 25 for customers that are unwittingly hosting zombie computers is a good one, as long as the process to get the port reopened is straight-forward once the problem is cleared up. Other providers such as MSN could learn from that strategy.
I hate SPAM as much as anybody (and I don't care much for the salt-soaked over-processed meat, either!), but blocking my ability to use whatever email services I want from wherever I want is not the answer.
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I hate ISPs who limit any of my internet access. I am paying for certain bandwidth with all the ports accessable. I couldn't care less about their email servers, firewalls, home networking... I just want a high bandwidth connection, biggest for the buck. Charge extra for those who want or need those extra services.
I shouldn't have to pay because some morons who should never be on the net don't know how to properly protect their PC's. I shouldn't have to pay or get a warning because I am using most of the bandwidth I PAID for.
I shouldn't have to pay because some morons who should never be on the net don't know how to properly protect their PC's. I shouldn't have to pay or get a warning because I am using most of the bandwidth I PAID for.
That would block usage of other email services, like runbox.com (unless one can select the port for the smtp server). (blocking port 25)
If you're inconvenienced, so be it! You will easily work around it or find another ISP. The point is to block spam, and no one can insist that their 'rights' trump the blocking procedure.
there is such a thing as T's & C's to any such service. and untill such technology changes,this is what needs to be done so that spam is slowed down. I have cox HSI (which blocks 25) and i still recieve about 100 aday. if every ISP did the same we could probably get rid of these spammers. as of right now this is what needs to be done. so quit whinning and get use to it.
Uh.....
Port 25 is used for SMTP (Outgoing), not POP (incoming), which uses port 110 (among others)
Port 25 is used for SMTP (Outgoing), not POP (incoming), which uses port 110 (among others)
Using smtpport.com I'm using it on optimum online at home. Using it on the road right now. Works with both, and i think it would work with any ISP!
-Rob
-Rob
... why, when the zombies are identified, nothing direct is done about it.
From the article:
Instead, Comcast's engineers plan to try the innovative approach of identifying the zombie PCs and surreptitiously sending the subscriber's cable modem a new configuration routine that prevents outbound connections on port 25.
The zombies remain zombies, but restricted behind what's effectively a limited purpose firewall.
How about sending the computer owners a notification? Maybe a forceful one. Cutting off service would be too extreme, but making sure the user knows the problem and has instructions about what to do about it is reasonable.
In fact, making available an automatic connection to an online virus scanner seems useful.
There has to be a more direct solution.
From the article:
Instead, Comcast's engineers plan to try the innovative approach of identifying the zombie PCs and surreptitiously sending the subscriber's cable modem a new configuration routine that prevents outbound connections on port 25.
The zombies remain zombies, but restricted behind what's effectively a limited purpose firewall.
How about sending the computer owners a notification? Maybe a forceful one. Cutting off service would be too extreme, but making sure the user knows the problem and has instructions about what to do about it is reasonable.
In fact, making available an automatic connection to an online virus scanner seems useful.
There has to be a more direct solution.
They do send the subscriber a notice a well. But it may take days for the subscriber (who is probably not technical) to figure what it means or what to do about it in the meantime spewing lots of emails. So blocking certain ports on the cable modem immediately is a great alternative to simply cutting off all services to the customer infected with spamware (you can't even get the software you need to fix the problem without an internet connection!).
For Comcast to provide the service of actually removing the virus/worm/trojan would cost them money (in terms of licensing third party software and providing customer support) and is simply not their responsibility. I can't blame them for staying away from that.
For Comcast to provide the service of actually removing the virus/worm/trojan would cost them money (in terms of licensing third party software and providing customer support) and is simply not their responsibility. I can't blame them for staying away from that.
costs them nine dollars. So what are forceful emails going to do? Generate calls to the help line. Duh!
Go back to basics.
The ISP's say that the users are clueless. Have any of them ever tried the US Mails to notify infected users and giving them instructions on how to correct their immediate problem? It must cost a lot less than the $9 help desk cost.
Cable system providers have to know the physical address. They send them a bill every month.
The ISP's say that the users are clueless. Have any of them ever tried the US Mails to notify infected users and giving them instructions on how to correct their immediate problem? It must cost a lot less than the $9 help desk cost.
Cable system providers have to know the physical address. They send them a bill every month.
Thank you Anton, I was thinking exactly the
same thing. Why couldn't they send out an
email to all of their users, inform them of
the problem, and provide them with a link
or instructions on what to do? Given the fact
that a lot of that SPAM can be traced back
to specific locations on their network they
shouldn't have too much trouble identifying
who's causing the problems and then help their
users to correct the problem.
same thing. Why couldn't they send out an
email to all of their users, inform them of
the problem, and provide them with a link
or instructions on what to do? Given the fact
that a lot of that SPAM can be traced back
to specific locations on their network they
shouldn't have too much trouble identifying
who's causing the problems and then help their
users to correct the problem.
""uses a particular application data channel, or port, to attack vulnerable systems""(link this article - [so-called zombie computers ])
Isn't this just telling the application to not use the 'internet then.? Doesn't specifically denote an ISP identifying a flawed security within a specific app (although must be using somekind of detail noted from an identifying party) . As if the ISP isn't denying that ""'im a good citizen to tell the person of this security problem .. I'll just shut off the app that is doing this from access.""
'Noticed in another story here on ZDNET - Zonealarm,has an anti-virus + firewall in store for users who need one. Just looked it was 19.95 from what I saw at the site for it.
Of course what when it is available that competitive 'modems are available - does this idea of auto adjustment suit the wishes of the person at the computer.? The modem 'make the ISP ?
An interesting take,was that a zombie computer sent a bunch of spam emails to a specific address.Supposing 'all spam went the same route,returning them to the ISP they came from. Of course this would be an indication of 'spam. Wouldn't be an indication of a zombie program doing so.
Idea of spam comes in plenty of flavors. They are in business for themselves,like the ISPs,software vendors,anti-virus vendors. Problem is spam can be whatever you dont want to receive,and any longer. Idea being what is considered the 'law(why isn't return to sender a law for example ) definition,and what is considered what YOU can do from your own initiative. If spam is the problem,it should remain in that category. If security is the problem it should as well remain in that category - this too is a preference.
I can tell you one thing about those modems,there needs to be an off switch on them. The smallest of courtesy all around.And since the firewall is a big deal the ISPs should detail their customers having one,via a suggestion to do so.
-just talking.
Isn't this just telling the application to not use the 'internet then.? Doesn't specifically denote an ISP identifying a flawed security within a specific app (although must be using somekind of detail noted from an identifying party) . As if the ISP isn't denying that ""'im a good citizen to tell the person of this security problem .. I'll just shut off the app that is doing this from access.""
'Noticed in another story here on ZDNET - Zonealarm,has an anti-virus + firewall in store for users who need one. Just looked it was 19.95 from what I saw at the site for it.
Of course what when it is available that competitive 'modems are available - does this idea of auto adjustment suit the wishes of the person at the computer.? The modem 'make the ISP ?
An interesting take,was that a zombie computer sent a bunch of spam emails to a specific address.Supposing 'all spam went the same route,returning them to the ISP they came from. Of course this would be an indication of 'spam. Wouldn't be an indication of a zombie program doing so.
Idea of spam comes in plenty of flavors. They are in business for themselves,like the ISPs,software vendors,anti-virus vendors. Problem is spam can be whatever you dont want to receive,and any longer. Idea being what is considered the 'law(why isn't return to sender a law for example ) definition,and what is considered what YOU can do from your own initiative. If spam is the problem,it should remain in that category. If security is the problem it should as well remain in that category - this too is a preference.
I can tell you one thing about those modems,there needs to be an off switch on them. The smallest of courtesy all around.And since the firewall is a big deal the ISPs should detail their customers having one,via a suggestion to do so.
-just talking.
I am a Comcast subscriber running Panther...
and I know for sure my computer isn't a Zombie...
It's great to be a minority??
and I know for sure my computer isn't a Zombie...
It's great to be a minority??
Sure is great to be in a minority, and I use Mandrake Linux for ALL of my internet. Best protection from Windows Malware that I know of.
I run Win XP and know for sure my computer isn't a Zombie. So what is you point?
>>>
Thanks to Panther...
I am a Comcast subscriber running Panther...
and I know for sure my computer isn't a Zombie
>>>
Thanks to Panther...
I am a Comcast subscriber running Panther...
and I know for sure my computer isn't a Zombie
What ever gets you through the night 
Most mac users don't know that apple DID NOT create the core of OS X. You are running Unix, plain and simple.
Most mac users don't know that apple DID NOT create the core of OS X. You are running Unix, plain and simple. 
Why doesn't comcast scan its email for viruses, so its customers
don't have to worry about it.
don't have to worry about it.
If they allow outgoing access on TCP port 25; unless mail is relayed through their server, it won't get scanned.
I agree that Comcast should scan for viruses, but SPAM is not necessarily virus-related. It is possible for one of the Zombie units to contract a virus from a non-spam source and then broadcast it to all of its subsequent contacts.
Spamfighter - 95% success and never ever flags a legit e-mail. Its been a life saver as I normal get 300 to 500 spams aday vs 3 to 10 "good" e-mails. www.spamfighter.com
Just because you are blocking 500 spam emails a day, doesn't mean you've won. That's like saying that while your neighbor has an outside leaky faucet, you don't, so you're not affected. Well, that water can seep into the ground and if it gets wet enough, can weaken your foundation...You see, the bandwidth for that spam is still being used. 500 messages, each averaging 30k per message is 15 megs of messages per day! And for a month, that's 450 megs of data. Most cable users are capped at 2gb/month. So, if you pay 49 bucks for cable internet, you just paid $11.25 to receive all that spam! Just because you filter it at your machine, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to be recieved.
Now, if you have IMAPI mail at the providers server, and they do filtering at the server, well then, that's different! But most mail servers don't do filtering for fear of false positives, and the cost of the software!
So think about it...is all that spam worth 11 bucks?
Ed
web/gadget guru
Now, if you have IMAPI mail at the providers server, and they do filtering at the server, well then, that's different! But most mail servers don't do filtering for fear of false positives, and the cost of the software!
So think about it...is all that spam worth 11 bucks?
Ed
web/gadget guru
I see SpamFighter is only for Outlook and Outlook Express. You may be getting rid of spam, but you're ripe picking's for the virii and worms out there.
Right now, Comcast lets users post email without identifying themselves. Comcast should enable SMTP authentication.
>>Right now, Comcast lets users post email without identifying themselves. Comcast should enable SMTP authentication.
ER.. What makes you think they don't...? A little over a year ago, when Comcast bought out AT&T's cable venture, that feature was already in use.
Even still, you completely misunderstood the problem. Zombie PC's do not send e-mail through Comcast's servers. They don't need to. The virus they're infected with already contains ALL the code needed to send e-mail directly to the destination server, completely bypassing Comcast entirely. THIS is the crux of the problem.
For what it's worth, you don't need to use your ISP's e-mail server. If you were so inclined, you can download an e-mail server package from Tucows or any number of other sources and install it on your home computer provided it meets the system requirements. You can then send e-mail directly from your PC without going through your ISP. With a little work, you can even set it up so the program can even retrieve e-mail being sent to you. All you would need to do is register a domain to your IP address and let the world-wide DNS servers update that information and tell people where to send the e-mail.
Most people don't do this (normally) because it requires memory and drive space to run and their ISP's generally offer the service to them as part of the package deal. They don't have to hassle with maintaining the server.
ER.. What makes you think they don't...? A little over a year ago, when Comcast bought out AT&T's cable venture, that feature was already in use.
Even still, you completely misunderstood the problem. Zombie PC's do not send e-mail through Comcast's servers. They don't need to. The virus they're infected with already contains ALL the code needed to send e-mail directly to the destination server, completely bypassing Comcast entirely. THIS is the crux of the problem.
For what it's worth, you don't need to use your ISP's e-mail server. If you were so inclined, you can download an e-mail server package from Tucows or any number of other sources and install it on your home computer provided it meets the system requirements. You can then send e-mail directly from your PC without going through your ISP. With a little work, you can even set it up so the program can even retrieve e-mail being sent to you. All you would need to do is register a domain to your IP address and let the world-wide DNS servers update that information and tell people where to send the e-mail.
Most people don't do this (normally) because it requires memory and drive space to run and their ISP's generally offer the service to them as part of the package deal. They don't have to hassle with maintaining the server.
My former ISP, COVAD DSL, surprisingly was not using SMTP AUTH for about the first year or so I had them. When they finally added it to their system, suddenly I could NOT SEND E-MAIL unless I had just CHECKED IT first!! I already had EUDORA configured for AUTH since my DIAL-UP ISP required it and I never had a problem with them so I knew it was not the software that was the cause.
After multiple calls to COVAD's Tech Support, they could not figure out the problem nor fix it so I took CHARTER CABLE up on their special offer (2M/128K) for $29/month (first 6 months) and dumped COVAD's 384K/128K service. Now 7 months later it's 3M/256K @ $39 since they upgraded their network. I can just imagine when we finally get "Fibre to the Curb" what speeds they will offer. (:
The only disadvantage is now I have to drag a 100FT CAT5 cable out to the back where my other 'puter is located cause WiFi won't reach. We have too many 'CRITTERS' skulking around here at night to leave it out so I have to roll it up after use. OH WELL!!
After multiple calls to COVAD's Tech Support, they could not figure out the problem nor fix it so I took CHARTER CABLE up on their special offer (2M/128K) for $29/month (first 6 months) and dumped COVAD's 384K/128K service. Now 7 months later it's 3M/256K @ $39 since they upgraded their network. I can just imagine when we finally get "Fibre to the Curb" what speeds they will offer. (:
The only disadvantage is now I have to drag a 100FT CAT5 cable out to the back where my other 'puter is located cause WiFi won't reach. We have too many 'CRITTERS' skulking around here at night to leave it out so I have to roll it up after use. OH WELL!!
Working for mainly small businesses, we regularly deal with viruses, spam and spyware that either choke PC performance down to nothing or stop it completely. We routinely warn users of AOL email and AIM instant messenger that re-infection will occur, no matter what anti-virus and spyware shredders are installed. If Comcast is the biggest spammer, then AOL has got to be the biggest infector that causes that spam. I'm really surprised that AOL is not the biggest spammer as well.
I have been a Comcast subscriber (survivor?) for about 3 years now. I say "survivor" because of the grossly inept way in which Comcast chose to initiate its ISP service to its customers as well as the way it executed it's services, even after it finally took over providing the "ISP" portion from it's first sub-contractor (@Home), my enquiries about "Why is my new e-mail address showing up so quickly on the spammers lists?" were never answered. (I suspect that the sysops had left open the "finger" door.)
I'll have to give Comcast credit for trying to clean up some of the problems, that they created for themselves and their customers, in the past. Unfortunately, for them it looks like they are now paying rather heavy prices for their past laxity and poor management practices.
I'll have to give Comcast credit for trying to clean up some of the problems, that they created for themselves and their customers, in the past. Unfortunately, for them it looks like they are now paying rather heavy prices for their past laxity and poor management practices.
THis is one of the reasons I use Comcast in the first place. I prefer to use a third part mail service, why should I have to advertize for ComCast in my eMail address? Ligitimate eMail providers are a great thing, just shut down the abusers.
I've been using smtpport.com with optimum online to get around their new port 25 block. Takes a higher port to SMTP on your own server. Using Outlook. Works great so far!
-Rob
-Rob
About 30% of my spam comes from Comcast servers. In my state we are allowed to charge $10 for each unwanted email. I've sent them a bill, but haven't received an answer. Big surprise.
Well, if they fail to pay, take them to COURT!! File the action in SMALL CLAIMS so that they can not send a batallion of lawyers in response, they have to send a single representative or just default.
If you make the news headlines for doing it, and a lot of other people in your state all do it too, they WILL take notice and do something about the problem cause it WILL reflect upon their "corporate credit rating" if they get a lot of non-paid judgements against them that all-tolled run into the hundreds of thousands of $$$.
If you make the news headlines for doing it, and a lot of other people in your state all do it too, they WILL take notice and do something about the problem cause it WILL reflect upon their "corporate credit rating" if they get a lot of non-paid judgements against them that all-tolled run into the hundreds of thousands of $$$.
Pass laws that make ISPs financially liable for costs of spam to companies and individuals, i.e., turn OUR problem into THEIR problem. Spam would disappear in a hurry with a few high profile court cases.
Bruce, Bruce, Bruce. Guess whose problem
"THEIR problem" will become?
Ever heard the phrase "pass it on to the
customer"?
If you like inexpesive broadband access, such
cavelier ideas should be carefully considered.
"THEIR problem" will become?
Ever heard the phrase "pass it on to the
customer"?
If you like inexpesive broadband access, such
cavelier ideas should be carefully considered.
Enact a law that fines the one that receives the money for the product the spam advertises, say $10,000 per time, if ther are more that 10 complaints, use the FTC spam receiver as a source witness. It is easy to find out who collects the money via a credit card transaction. If we take the money out of it I am sure it will greatly reduce the incentive to spam. If there is no profit they will move to other things.
75 to 85 spam a day for my 15 to 20 messages is too much. I can't go on vacation without checking my email every few days, as the storage fills up and the ISP responds "The email box is full" and the ligitament email is lost and I am unsubscribed from the things I want.
PLEASE STOP THE SPAM!!!
75 to 85 spam a day for my 15 to 20 messages is too much. I can't go on vacation without checking my email every few days, as the storage fills up and the ISP responds "The email box is full" and the ligitament email is lost and I am unsubscribed from the things I want.
PLEASE STOP THE SPAM!!!
I like that idea but, how do you go after the
ones who are outside of the country?
ones who are outside of the country?
A fine would serve little purpose, besides, what would you spend the money on ?
We need a war on SPAM !
Issue playing cards and get the FBI to do something about these ne'er-do-wells!
I left my email alone for three days and returned to 697 messages.
I guess I do need a bigger unit : )
We need a war on SPAM !
Issue playing cards and get the FBI to do something about these ne'er-do-wells!
I left my email alone for three days and returned to 697 messages.
I guess I do need a bigger unit : )
Unless i'm wrong, won't any antivirus program keep your computer from becoming a zombie? So as long as you have Norton or something, you should be good to go right?
If you look on E-bay, you can get a copy for $10 to $15.
If you look on E-bay, you can get a copy for $10 to $15.
Anti-Virus by itself just protects you from viruses. For hacker protection get a firewall.
Along with SP1K3 advise on a firewall. Zone Alarm (Firewall)is free for home & non-profit use. Isee you already have an antivirus. You also need a spybot & spyware remover/s. I use both Ad-aware & Spybot Search & Destroy. All 3 can be found at www.download.com . I had a friend who I cleared spyware from his computer. His bandwith was sucked down to 650 to 700kbs. I removed spyware from his computer. The bandwith went up to 1700- 1800 KBS. He has a 2 meg price plan. If Comcast would just requst their customers to use spybot removers it might help things.
Earthlink claims that they try to prevent spam. First off, let me say that earthlink blocks port 25; therefore earthlink customer must relay through mail.earthlink.net. Due to a poor security design, it is possible for earthlink customers to relay through mail.earthlink.net without authentication. Spammers can just relay through earthlink anonymously!!! When the "victim" recieves the email, they cannot track where it came from, because it get sent from one of 16 earthlink servers. Therefore the header reports the mail is sent from mail.earthlink.net. This causes a strain for other ISP's and Network Administrators. Eventhough a s**tload of spam comes from earthlink's email servers; ISP's and Network Administrators can't blacklist earthlink's mail servers because of the legitimate earthlink users. Secondly, earthlink allows their customers to send SMTP and POP credentials over the internet unencrypted, no SSL. If you have earthlink cable modem internet, anyone in your neighborhood can steal you password in less than 5 seconds. All you have to do is check you email, by hitting the "Send and Recieve" button.
I agree with the article it does seem that
Comcast is the biggest spammer and hopefully
they'll get off their duff's and do something
about the Zombie PC's on their network.
Sorry if this question is off topic but, does
anybody know who to file a complaint to as
regards another cable company, RCN, who also
seem to have a number of Zombie PC's on their
network? I receive at least 6 - 8 warning of
port scans to a specific location all originating
from RCN.com and despite my complaints to them
their attitude has been one of "not our problem",
"we don't fix user's PC's", or "while it is an
indication of the beginning of a hacker attack
let us know when it gets serious.".
Would appreciate some suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Comcast is the biggest spammer and hopefully
they'll get off their duff's and do something
about the Zombie PC's on their network.
Sorry if this question is off topic but, does
anybody know who to file a complaint to as
regards another cable company, RCN, who also
seem to have a number of Zombie PC's on their
network? I receive at least 6 - 8 warning of
port scans to a specific location all originating
from RCN.com and despite my complaints to them
their attitude has been one of "not our problem",
"we don't fix user's PC's", or "while it is an
indication of the beginning of a hacker attack
let us know when it gets serious.".
Would appreciate some suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
There are several places you can complain to.
[FTC] [FCC] [BBB] / [BBB online]
You may also wish to file a "Casework" complaint with your Congressional & House Members. They are more than happy to assist constituants with such problems.
[FTC] [FCC] [BBB] / [BBB online]
You may also wish to file a "Casework" complaint with your Congressional & House Members. They are more than happy to assist constituants with such problems.
We could take care of the problem if we had addresses of the valid comcast smtp servers so that we could block all teh orhters
Simple solution for our business application. I just block all email from those ISP's. Any complaints, I tell the sender to fax the information and then suggest they get real mail service.
This also blocks the spammers that spoof those addresses. So far, I have gotten zero complaints and it has been around 2 years since I blocked them and yahoo, hotmail etc.
This also blocks the spammers that spoof those addresses. So far, I have gotten zero complaints and it has been around 2 years since I blocked them and yahoo, hotmail etc.
I'm a Comcast user - does anyone know how I can check if I'm a "Zombie Computer" (as described in the main article, having been taken over by spammers so they can send 1000's of emails from my broadband connection.)
-Nancy in Michigan
-Nancy in Michigan
You have thousands of online computers with defective operating systems that allow spammers to set up spambot software without the consent of the users/owners. So guess who is at fault here??? If I hired a doorman to open my doors when I wanted and he was so incompetent that he couldn't recognise me from a burglar don't you think there would be some grounds for a complaint against that doorman?. The same applies to Windows. They should do the intended job.
In most civilised countries there are laws about products being of merchantable quality and suitable for their intended use. The USA is famous for this sort of thing. This is why noone wants to make and sell light aircraft and why even the most trivial electrical appliance comes with a manual to rival Proust describing the correct useage. No matter what the EULA may claim I see here significant statutory grounds for a large class action against a certain software company. Where are the famous fire engine chasing lawyers?
In most civilised countries there are laws about products being of merchantable quality and suitable for their intended use. The USA is famous for this sort of thing. This is why noone wants to make and sell light aircraft and why even the most trivial electrical appliance comes with a manual to rival Proust describing the correct useage. No matter what the EULA may claim I see here significant statutory grounds for a large class action against a certain software company. Where are the famous fire engine chasing lawyers?
Stop the veiled references and just go ahead and blame microsoft instead of talking around it. Windows does its inteneded job, by the way...it may not do it securely, but then, the tools are out there to make it secure. No, it's not an ideal situation, but do you really think ranting about how "most civilized countries have laws....ad nasueuem" is going to help anything? Think again.
Running broadband? Start with an inexpensive NAT'ing router between your cable modem and you, add a free firewall (even the included XP 'wall isn't too bad) and a decent AV program...let windows patch itself when it wants, keep your AV software upgraded/definitions fresh and stop worrying about this stuff.
Running broadband? Start with an inexpensive NAT'ing router between your cable modem and you, add a free firewall (even the included XP 'wall isn't too bad) and a decent AV program...let windows patch itself when it wants, keep your AV software upgraded/definitions fresh and stop worrying about this stuff.
Your advise, bart, is good but most people who own computers don't know about firewalls and don't want to have to know all that techie stuff. They want plug and play(tm) amd they want software that works properly from day one so don't expect them to be much interested in optional updates either.
Don't you find it interesting that Comcast's innovative solution will not alert their zombie owning subsribers to the infection. Hardly a good solution in the long term but quite correct in that the infection is not something comcast should be obliged to provide support for. Lets hope it works btw.
Given the MS propensity for developing products in the market the only long term solution will be that all IPs make it a condition of service that automatic updates be turned on for all internet connected machines running MS operating systems. Frankly I can't see that happening.
So the zombie computer owners remain ignorant of the problem. MS shifts its defective wares and people like comcast are left to pick up the slack.
It looks like game set and match to the biggest software company on the planet again and when some poor stiff tries to point to the unfairness of it all he is told to think again. Well I did Bart and I still came to the same conclusion.
Don't you find it interesting that Comcast's innovative solution will not alert their zombie owning subsribers to the infection. Hardly a good solution in the long term but quite correct in that the infection is not something comcast should be obliged to provide support for. Lets hope it works btw.
Given the MS propensity for developing products in the market the only long term solution will be that all IPs make it a condition of service that automatic updates be turned on for all internet connected machines running MS operating systems. Frankly I can't see that happening.
So the zombie computer owners remain ignorant of the problem. MS shifts its defective wares and people like comcast are left to pick up the slack.
It looks like game set and match to the biggest software company on the planet again and when some poor stiff tries to point to the unfairness of it all he is told to think again. Well I did Bart and I still came to the same conclusion.
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