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The panel needs to include parents - real parents who
have to deal with these games, the consoles, how the
game developers create games that force a child to keep
playing or they lose items, lose levels, have to bloody start
again, how much conflict in the homes these games
create, how ridiculous the whole parental control set up is
because the kids, mostly teenagers, can lie and purchase
their own subscriptions - just like they do for facebook -
lie to set up an account. The game developers, the Gaming
Merchants Association are all anti parent, anti authority.
The games create addictions, indifference, and a blase
view of violence, horror, and are based on fear,
identification with the aggressor, power through killing.
Go to Empowering Parents Newsletter(google it) and read
how parents are struggling to have a family once these
games are introduced!
The gaming industry wants you to believe it is a small
percentage of kids but that is a big, fat LIE!
The game developers need to be the ones experiencing
what its like to deal with a raging child who WILL NOT turn
off their console, or argues and argues for more time so
they can "get to the next level", who values this unreal
world more than the real world. They can come get the
kids out of bed or stay up and make sure they are in bed
and they can lock up the console and deal with the
bitterness this engenders, or watch and then discipline a
kid who buys a game online by lying about their age and
plays it. The whole parental control things is ridiculous
when a kids can buy their own subscriptions and lie about
their age. They have been trained by society to already do
this by lying to join Myspace and facebook! They think
nothing of it.
The panel needs REAL parents dealing with this stuff. I
would like to make every single game developer sit in our
homes and try to parent with things they way they are now
due to video games. They would RUN for their LIVES and
vow to NEVER be involved with video games again.
have to deal with these games, the consoles, how the
game developers create games that force a child to keep
playing or they lose items, lose levels, have to bloody start
again, how much conflict in the homes these games
create, how ridiculous the whole parental control set up is
because the kids, mostly teenagers, can lie and purchase
their own subscriptions - just like they do for facebook -
lie to set up an account. The game developers, the Gaming
Merchants Association are all anti parent, anti authority.
The games create addictions, indifference, and a blase
view of violence, horror, and are based on fear,
identification with the aggressor, power through killing.
Go to Empowering Parents Newsletter(google it) and read
how parents are struggling to have a family once these
games are introduced!
The gaming industry wants you to believe it is a small
percentage of kids but that is a big, fat LIE!
The game developers need to be the ones experiencing
what its like to deal with a raging child who WILL NOT turn
off their console, or argues and argues for more time so
they can "get to the next level", who values this unreal
world more than the real world. They can come get the
kids out of bed or stay up and make sure they are in bed
and they can lock up the console and deal with the
bitterness this engenders, or watch and then discipline a
kid who buys a game online by lying about their age and
plays it. The whole parental control things is ridiculous
when a kids can buy their own subscriptions and lie about
their age. They have been trained by society to already do
this by lying to join Myspace and facebook! They think
nothing of it.
The panel needs REAL parents dealing with this stuff. I
would like to make every single game developer sit in our
homes and try to parent with things they way they are now
due to video games. They would RUN for their LIVES and
vow to NEVER be involved with video games again.
Is for parents to take responsibility for the actions of their children, instead of blaming someone else or trying to get someone else to do it for them.
Little Johnny can't play that violent video game if his parents don't let him.
Little Johnny can't sit in front of a PC or game controller for hours on end if his parents don't let him.
When I was a teenager, I knew damn well what would happen if I screwed up and did something I knew I shouldn't be doing. Just like I knew what would happen if I gave my parents lip about something... I would get the ass whipping I deserved.
We're becoming a nation of p*ssies, plain and simple.
Little Johnny can't play that violent video game if his parents don't let him.
Little Johnny can't sit in front of a PC or game controller for hours on end if his parents don't let him.
When I was a teenager, I knew damn well what would happen if I screwed up and did something I knew I shouldn't be doing. Just like I knew what would happen if I gave my parents lip about something... I would get the ass whipping I deserved.
We're becoming a nation of p*ssies, plain and simple.
Geez, Timeout. Learn how to discipline your kids and run your house. Don't let them run your house. Yeah, its going to be hard to do and will take some effort. But once you start consistently laying down the rules and making consequences for their undesirable behavior, then eventually they will learn not to do it. Consequences don't have to be physical punishment either. God forbid that you have to actually work at parenting. Look into "Love and Logic". Its a simple highly effective way of dealing with kids from birth until they are out of the house. Yes, I have kids and I use it with them and it works.
Laws AGAINST something make it "forbidden fruit". If kids see it as no consequence, then they will break that "silly" law.
Parents must parent. Everyone seems so busy nowadays. Cell phones are always on, and answered immediately. It takes 2 wages just to get along.
We must find time to spend more time with our children. Generation X has been lost; Gen Y (the Millenials) need to know that someone cares for them, and they can care for others.
Oops! I'm on my hight horse again.
Bye.
Parents must parent. Everyone seems so busy nowadays. Cell phones are always on, and answered immediately. It takes 2 wages just to get along.
We must find time to spend more time with our children. Generation X has been lost; Gen Y (the Millenials) need to know that someone cares for them, and they can care for others.
Oops! I'm on my hight horse again.
Bye.
The game developers need to be the ones experiencing
what its like to deal with a raging child who WILL NOT turn
off their console, or argues and argues for more time so
they can "get to the next level", who values this unreal
world more than the real world.
You're kidding me right? Who's the parent? Unplug the game, lock it up, and throw the child outside to play for a while.
This kind of disobedience has NOTHING to do with games-- do you really expect me to believe that if the game is taken away the child in this scenario will magically behave?
This is lack of discipline pure and simple-- and it's because many of the parents of the current generation can't be bothered to be parents plain and simple. It's also why the insist on blaming game developers, tv shows, school, etc for the fact that THEY have no control over THEIR children.
what its like to deal with a raging child who WILL NOT turn
off their console, or argues and argues for more time so
they can "get to the next level", who values this unreal
world more than the real world.
You're kidding me right? Who's the parent? Unplug the game, lock it up, and throw the child outside to play for a while.
This kind of disobedience has NOTHING to do with games-- do you really expect me to believe that if the game is taken away the child in this scenario will magically behave?
This is lack of discipline pure and simple-- and it's because many of the parents of the current generation can't be bothered to be parents plain and simple. It's also why the insist on blaming game developers, tv shows, school, etc for the fact that THEY have no control over THEIR children.
The parents need to take control and monitor their child's activity. If a child throws a tantrum and a parent can't control them perhaps some counseling is required for both the parents and child. The government shouldn't play NANNY for parents who cannot control their unruly children. Hmm, does the word dysfunction come to mind!
You're right. Let's impede every American's right to free speech and creativity because a couple of parents don't know how to take care of their children. Now there's a productive and appropriate role for the government: as babysitter. You sound like a frigging prohibitionist. If you don't know your history, I'll just put it this way: that didn't work out so well.
of dealing with your child after I've been given the pleasure of creating your child.
You made it, you raise it.
You made it, you raise it.
"One wonders where this overreach by government in New York will end:
This is New York. It will never end until the taxes and fees are so high that the only people who can afford to live here are the ones with state jobs.
This is New York. It will never end until the taxes and fees are so high that the only people who can afford to live here are the ones with state jobs.
Sounds like they have the right goals in mind to keep questionable content more inaccessible to minors. However it does seem wasteful to duplicate systems that are already in place.
Make it difficult for kids to buy and rent if that is the issue. But leave current controls to do their job.
Make it difficult for kids to buy and rent if that is the issue. But leave current controls to do their job.
Too many parents have let TV & Games be the babysitter. Would you want to hire an axe murderer as your babysitter? No? Then monitor what your kids are playing.
With my kids, they know that playing is a privilege, not a right. If their chores or homework are not done, or if they have broken house rules, they do not get to play. They may not be happy, but they learn the concept of actions and consequences - something that too many youth these days have problems with.
With my kids, they know that playing is a privilege, not a right. If their chores or homework are not done, or if they have broken house rules, they do not get to play. They may not be happy, but they learn the concept of actions and consequences - something that too many youth these days have problems with.
Whenever ANYONE states that they are thinking of the "good of our children" I worry.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
I always took that saying as people who always intended to do something good, but never followed through with action.
This post sounds like the standard "It's-not-me-it's--fault" attitude that is becoming an American way of life. In this day and age of trial lawyers and irresponsible parents (can anyone say my kid's fat so I sued Mickey D's) you are par for the course. A sad example of why children feel entitled. When I was a kid my gaming hours were regulated more than smoking is.
Today I spend 1-4 hours a day playing and have no driving urge to play violent games. When I was a kid the more violent it was the more I liked it and spent as much time playing as I was allowed. I'm not a violent offender. I have manners and regularly call people sir or ma'am. I observe the laws of society and stop to help strangers.
Your entire theory that games make kids bad is based in fallacy and ignorance. *Parents* make kids bad. Hitler never had video games. Milosevic never had video games. Neither did Stalin, Mao Ze Dong, or Ted Bundy. The ideas you propagate are sad and pathetic wastes of your own time, rather than find fact and take responsibility and use the tools god/allah/soccer playing jesus gave you you run off and jump the shark and blame a video game.
The big question here is who turned on the gaming console/PC/handheld? Who purchased it for them? Who's allowing them to continue using it if it is indeed causing time management and behavioral issues? You are. So own up and stop crying to legislate, legislate yourself.
Today I spend 1-4 hours a day playing and have no driving urge to play violent games. When I was a kid the more violent it was the more I liked it and spent as much time playing as I was allowed. I'm not a violent offender. I have manners and regularly call people sir or ma'am. I observe the laws of society and stop to help strangers.
Your entire theory that games make kids bad is based in fallacy and ignorance. *Parents* make kids bad. Hitler never had video games. Milosevic never had video games. Neither did Stalin, Mao Ze Dong, or Ted Bundy. The ideas you propagate are sad and pathetic wastes of your own time, rather than find fact and take responsibility and use the tools god/allah/soccer playing jesus gave you you run off and jump the shark and blame a video game.
The big question here is who turned on the gaming console/PC/handheld? Who purchased it for them? Who's allowing them to continue using it if it is indeed causing time management and behavioral issues? You are. So own up and stop crying to legislate, legislate yourself.
Obviously the majority of them are total incompetents when it comes to raising children.
And the Governor must be blind to have so foolishly signed the bill.
Oh, wait a minute, he IS blind!
Guess what people? I refuse to follow the law when it comes to these nanny laws. It's MY responsibility, not yours, not the police, and not some shmuck in a suit in the Capital.
And the Governor must be blind to have so foolishly signed the bill.
Oh, wait a minute, he IS blind!
Guess what people? I refuse to follow the law when it comes to these nanny laws. It's MY responsibility, not yours, not the police, and not some shmuck in a suit in the Capital.
Reading the full text, the penalty for violation is $500 per occurrence, to a maximum of $50,000 for multiple violations.
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A11717&sh=t
and the gaming industry is how many Billion per year?
Chump change. It's just a feel-good law.
and yes, I live in NY.
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A11717&sh=t
and the gaming industry is how many Billion per year?
Chump change. It's just a feel-good law.
and yes, I live in NY.
Which NY is very good at. This is a real problem. I've done a lot of reading on it. But, another commission isn't going to help. Just fine the parents who give their children inappropriate games.
While I dislike some of the pointlessly violent or sexual content in some video games, the way to regulate them is market pressure; if you don't like them, don't buy them.
I'm just curious how this will affect video games accessible over the internet?
I'm just curious how this will affect video games accessible over the internet?
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