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Firefox Beta 3.5
ampers@... 28th Apr 2009
It sounds great and I will eventually use it. Normally I am not too concerned about downloading RCs but when the RC comes out I will decline.

I only ever replace my Firefox when the authors of all the more seriously useful add-ons I use have updated their programs.

But it certainly looks interesting. I don't look at naughty websites, however anything that stops this government's all-pervasive search for everything about us is no bad thing! Although I am referring to British, it could read American as well!

Ampers
...because they are going directly to the ISPs for the info sad
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RE: Mozilla releases Firefox 3.5 beta
Loverock Davidson 28th Apr 2009
They sure are taking their sweet team getting this software released. Speed up the process a bit and release this thing already.
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Firefox 3.5 beta
Clayman1000x 29th Apr 2009
I thought you didn't like open source.
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But will it fully support gestures on OSX?
jmiller1978 28th Apr 2009
I use the lastest version of Firefox 3 instead of Safari but Firefox doesn't use gestures completely, like the 3-finger swipe to move back and forward pages.
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No tab isolation?
markbn 28th Apr 2009
Firefox is being left behind by their rivals, er,
sponsors
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Oh...verrrr...rayyyyy...ted!!
techboy_z 28th Apr 2009
eom
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Say its overrated
Kaiwai 28th Apr 2009
Say it is overrated when you have 15 tabs and the whole application goes down in a screaming heap instead of just the one tab dying. Processor isolation should have happened in this release - yet another example of why there is an exodus from Firefox like the rats jumping off the ship before it sinks.
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What exodus?
eMJayy 28th Apr 2009
The only browser currently losing market share is IE, as usual. Tab isolation is a good idea in theory, but as I posted below, there are downsides, especially when you apply it to a browser like FF that has an extensions platform already built into it. For me, though, it's not important, because I don't have browser crashes (or any other program crashes) at all - FF3, Opera, Chrome, Safari, Flock and IE8 all run flawlessly on my PCs. The only thing that tab isolation has done on my PCs is use up valuable memory resources.
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RE: Say its overrated
jackhammer84 28th Apr 2009
i have never had any problems with more than 15 tabs open. in fact, i've always tend to open up to 2 or 3 windows with 10-15 tabs in each window with no problems at all. and i have quite abit of add-ons tacked on as well. no problems.

what exodus are you talking about? they're still increasing market share.

with processor isolation, it's just gonna use up more RAM. i'm not taking any suggestions of buying more cheap RAM, because i don't see the logic of running out to buy more RAM no matter how cheap it is just so that i can browse using Chrome, when Firefox does the job well already.
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Tab Isolation has its downsides
eMJayy Updated - 28th Apr 2009
Tab isolation has been shown to make browsers like Chrome and IE8 utilize significantly more Ram than other browsers when many tabs are opened, due to the fact that resources that were previously shared between tabs now have to be duplicated for each tab. Imagine what would happen if they added that feature on top of all the extensions that many FF users run. It would be a nightmare.
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So tired of RAM arguments.....
JoeMama_z 28th Apr 2009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178164

what is the point of cheep accessible RAM if developers can't use it.

If you want firefox loaded with extensions and tab isolation drop $20 bucks and get some memory.
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I have to agree
Lerianis 28th Apr 2009
It's time that people upgraded their computers IMMEDIATELY to the highest amount of RAM they can take, and an OS that can take advantage of it!

There is NO reason for a computer to not be sold with the highest amount of RAM it can hold (unless we are talking about i7 computers which can hold like.... 64gigs of memory).
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Besides
midenginedrift 29th Apr 2009
Tab Isolation is not going to make or break Firefox. It is but ONE feature that I would simply like to see become an OPTION. So FF can't do one thing, big deal. What, you want FF to wipe for you too?

Actually, I could do without the Sandbox. I DO think it would be cool if FF could mimic Chrome's ability to pull tabs out of windows to create new windows, or to pin them in. I can live without it though.
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No tab isolation and No protected mode
qmlscycrajg Updated - 30th Apr 2009
No tab isolation and No protected mode: Firefox sucks!
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Who's Jacqui Smith...
techboy_z 28th Apr 2009
...and what is she up to???
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Jaqui Smith UK Home Secretary
CarlJokl 28th Apr 2009
She is the UK Home Secretary...unfortunately.

There have been lots of 1984 esque proposals being put forward for the government to monitor who we in the UK call or communicate with just in case we are a terrorist or something.
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Dude No link for Linux???
no_zd_user_name 28th Apr 2009
How difficult would it have been just to put one link directly to the beta page for all O/Ses?..........

Here:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

Jeesh.
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Ugg I hate firefox, IE haterz should try 8.
shakethebabyass2011 28th Apr 2009
I am impressed with IE8.
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I'm impressed with IE8 too
Lerianis 28th Apr 2009
But there are some things that IE8 is missing compared to Firefox 3.5 and even 3.0.

One: add-ons for managed downloading, like DownThemAll!, which I personally cannot do without.

Two: add-ons for protection, i.e. NoScript.

Now, IE8 DOES have some things that I like a lot: separate processes for each tab (this I love because one window crashing won't make me lose my entire 30 or so windows and tab's open) being the main one.
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RE: It's June 15, 2009
JoeRJr Updated - 15th Jun 2009
It's June 15, 2009...

...and still no Firefox 3.5 Final or release, and because they share code and also share some problems, there's no Thunderbird 3.0 Final or Release.

Finally, after many months, people are being told that there were many code, standards and programmers problems for both applications, and yes, there is a need for end-users to really test these two products for the programmers.

However, if they don't ship soon, forget it.

Agreed, one does not want a product ready before it's ready, but stop telling us all this, and just finish it.

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