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@terry flores - Oh bull crap!!! There's not that much stuff HP puts on there other than MS Works, Norton AV, HP's MediaSmart software and Office Trial. The average user NEEDs AV on the pc when they buy it, they need to be able to type letters so works is very useful, Mediasmart software is utterly useless and slow and putting office trial on it helps cut costs. I don't see the problem.
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