>> There's just lots of things that we're never gonna be good at. And I think some of these software's with service ideas are gonna help us get to market faster with the stuff that we want to do, versus buying it, integrating it, supporting it and all that sort of stuff in our, in our data center. So we like it. I, I don't, I don't have any issue with it at all.
>> I would just add we, we also are an advocate of software's with service and use it in several areas. But like all business models it's good for some situations and not for others. And I think that the important thing is the flexibly to move back and forth into different models for the company that we work with in the software industry. So I, I, I like to be able to do things on demand in certain situations, and also to bring it in house in certain situations. A lot depends on, you know, the ability to scale, for example, and how, you know, how do you scale the, you know, the number of employees and partners that we have is, is always a challenge. The speed of scale when you can't do adequate capacity planning, because you can't predict or forecast what demand is gonna be. So we look at all those kinds of factors and, and have been very, very happy with some of our software to service providers, and very unhappy with some of them as well. So it's a mix for us.
>> Software's and services coming, I think is here. It's, it's inevitable. And, and we need to embrace it. But, but it's not a pan of fear, assumed term spelling I don't think. I mean, you know, we've got a bunch of legacy stuff in there. And, and there's integration issue, which we've always faced challenges with, particularly around information and information flows. So, so for me there's, there's a bunch of opportunities in entry level activities. So deploying FCRN phonetic in Africa, software as a service is much easier to deploy than a, then the all kind of big sebol phonetic or SAPCRM phonetic application. So I think, I think for me, do I believe it will scale? Probably. But it's not my challenge right now. But, but are there opportunities to do things that previously we've been either, either no inclined to do, because it's too difficult, too expensive, just to hard, yes there will be. And, and the question for me is, will we run a, a hybrid solution? Or will it eventually start to intrude into a more traditional space? And, and I just don't know. But my guess is there will be some level of convergence, because I, I think inaudible was here and, and I'm sure, you know, SAP will provide some componentry in there on demand, or, or as a service. And, and we'll just have to see how that plays out a little bit I think.
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