LOL..you've got Firefox on one side eating up the browser share...
iPod on one side eating up the mp3 share
iPhone/Droid/Blackberry eating up the Smart Phone share
iPad eating up the tablet share...
Ballmer is flat out in denial. He's going to be the ultimate death of Microsoft..all he keeps tooting is Windows, Windows, Windows....
He should be beating the drum for mobility in the enterprise, and he's not doing that....
He's the one screaming that horses are still a great way to get around while everyone else is blasting by him in a Porsche.
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@cyberslammer2 and just what exactly is he supposed to be touting? Linux? Free BSD? he's the CEO of M$ and their flagship is windows, and with the release of WP7, (which IMHO, is junk) M$ is looking to move to the mobile enterprise market, and your comment about firefox, completely false, http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 check the facts man, IE still has over 50% of the market, good grief I cant believe I am defending M$, but facts are facts, regardless of how good or bad a product they make, people still use it.
@nickdangerthirdi@... Of course he's suppose to be touting Windows... but he's also supposed to be watching real trends and real numbers and making MS products better. Here, what I've seen is that he's in denial. And if he already knows everything, how is he going to learn anything new?
IE controls half of the market because most people don't know there are alternatives, or don't want to bother installing them. Mac people are the same way with Safari. People still use it, and will still use it if it's spoon fed to them, until MS has been run into the ground, and people have to find alternatives. I don't think this is going to be very soon- but it will eventually happen.
IE controls half of the market because most people don't know there are alternatives, or don't want to bother installing them. Mac people are the same way with Safari. People still use it, and will still use it if it's spoon fed to them, until MS has been run into the ground, and people have to find alternatives. I don't think this is going to be very soon- but it will eventually happen.
@NonZeal0t
Hardly. Windows is the most expensive from a TCO standpoint. Cheap to acquire, EXPENSIVE to maintain. The Yugo of the OS arena. Always has been, always will be.
Hardly. Windows is the most expensive from a TCO standpoint. Cheap to acquire, EXPENSIVE to maintain. The Yugo of the OS arena. Always has been, always will be.
@itguy08 are you implying that Mac's are cheaper to maintain? I beg to differ since you can only get parts through apple, the HW is up to 6 times more expensive, apparently you have only been an IT guy is 08, if thats what you honestly believe, and I dont normally agree with Nonzealot, but in this case he's right, windows is much simpler to maintain that Mac, and the fact that M$ releases patches on a monthly schedule as opposed to a quarterly schedule gives the system management guys a warm fuzzy too. and these are the reasons why apple will never take over the enterprise. and everyone who hates windows seems to forget that M$ doesnt control every aspect of a windows system, they dont own the HW, so you are able to purchase what you need instead of what apple thinks you need, and what kills me is now apples are basically running on the same HW as any PC, yet the prices are still outrageous.
@Random_Walk then maybe she should learn to not do the things that screw it up, as for you PowerMac, Congrats, I had a friend who spend 110 bucks on a keyboard for her powerbook, and I spent more time working on it than I did any of my PC's, so your 1 story of good luck is hardly contradictory to my point.
@Random_Walk then maybe she should learn to not do the things that screw it up, as for you PowerMac, Congrats, I had a friend who spend 110 bucks on a keyboard for her powerbook, and I spent more time working on it than I did any of my PC's, so your 1 story of good luck is hardly contradictory to my point.
@nickdangerthirdi@... Wouldn't it be nice to combine cheap PC hardware with operating system as good as Apple's? That was free?
@nickdangerthirdi@... Mac is cheaper in terms of reliability, support and useful software that comes with every piece of hardware. Most Mac users can figure out what to do when trouble comes because the OS is smarter at its core.
@nickdangerthirdi@...
The comparisons have been done already... Get over it doofus... You are spewing myths...
A Mac compared to its equal PC is about the same price (sometimes less).
And with the Mac you get the ilife suite as well as a much better OS.
Macs last longer and are much cheaper to maintain and own (the TCO studies have been done as well)
Also.. Apple doesn't release patches on a quarterly basis. They release them as needed and that is more often than quarterly. You know nothing about Macs...
Your friend spent 110.00 for a keyboard that production was halted on at least 5 years ago (there are not very many of those left that are not in use or used condition). Your friends powerbook is at least 5 years old and considering you have no experience with a powerbook, it's not suprising it took you awhile to work on it. Also, Apple only keeps parts for 7 years and then you have to get them through a third party.
Also, I can replace any part in any powerbook in less than 40 minutes and that includes reassembly. I can replace the keyboard in less than 4 minutes... So I am left wondering... What was it that you had to do that took sooooooo much time? Perhaps unearthing your thumb from an orifice?
The comparisons have been done already... Get over it doofus... You are spewing myths...
A Mac compared to its equal PC is about the same price (sometimes less).
And with the Mac you get the ilife suite as well as a much better OS.
Macs last longer and are much cheaper to maintain and own (the TCO studies have been done as well)
Also.. Apple doesn't release patches on a quarterly basis. They release them as needed and that is more often than quarterly. You know nothing about Macs...
Your friend spent 110.00 for a keyboard that production was halted on at least 5 years ago (there are not very many of those left that are not in use or used condition). Your friends powerbook is at least 5 years old and considering you have no experience with a powerbook, it's not suprising it took you awhile to work on it. Also, Apple only keeps parts for 7 years and then you have to get them through a third party.
Also, I can replace any part in any powerbook in less than 40 minutes and that includes reassembly. I can replace the keyboard in less than 4 minutes... So I am left wondering... What was it that you had to do that took sooooooo much time? Perhaps unearthing your thumb from an orifice?
@nickdangerthirdi@...
You are incorrect here. The Macs are cheaper to maintain, I have run operations running both systems and have found the Macs require significantly less support then comparable PC. They have a longer useful life span and are generally more reliable. This can be confirmed by Consumer reports surveys and testing. I have also found the Macs to be more user friendly allowing user to more easily solve issues without having to call our help desk. The Mac OS are also more logically laid out then Windows, I believe this is the fault of MS creating overly complicated OS in order to create a training and certification revenue. I will agree that Macs are around 40% (rough estimate) more expensive to buy and are far less upgradable but this is often compensated for by the longer life span and the ability of older Macs to effectively run newer OSX versions. It also goes with out saying that Apple is the leader in computer innovation and design.
An interesting point of comparison, I had a friend who ran IT operation for a University a number of years back. Their lab had equal numbers of Macs and PCs to support and he told me his support budget was 3 times more expensive for the PCs then the Macs. Also for the recorded I have been running PC shops for the last 15 years with only infrequent Mac use so I do consider my opinion pretty even side. Mac just makes a better mouse trap and if they didn't Windows would not have been copying it for the last 20 years.
You are incorrect here. The Macs are cheaper to maintain, I have run operations running both systems and have found the Macs require significantly less support then comparable PC. They have a longer useful life span and are generally more reliable. This can be confirmed by Consumer reports surveys and testing. I have also found the Macs to be more user friendly allowing user to more easily solve issues without having to call our help desk. The Mac OS are also more logically laid out then Windows, I believe this is the fault of MS creating overly complicated OS in order to create a training and certification revenue. I will agree that Macs are around 40% (rough estimate) more expensive to buy and are far less upgradable but this is often compensated for by the longer life span and the ability of older Macs to effectively run newer OSX versions. It also goes with out saying that Apple is the leader in computer innovation and design.
An interesting point of comparison, I had a friend who ran IT operation for a University a number of years back. Their lab had equal numbers of Macs and PCs to support and he told me his support budget was 3 times more expensive for the PCs then the Macs. Also for the recorded I have been running PC shops for the last 15 years with only infrequent Mac use so I do consider my opinion pretty even side. Mac just makes a better mouse trap and if they didn't Windows would not have been copying it for the last 20 years.
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@nickdangerthirdi: That's funny... I've had to repair my wife's Vaio about six times over the three years she's had it. My old dual G5 PowerMac has had to be repaired zero times.
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@nickdangerthirdi Only the upgrades are more expensive if you buy from Apple Store. Otherwise, they (the builds and componends) cost nearly the same, but they aren't built the same. This is why Apple products last, break down the least, are easy to carry and use, and win design awards. Jobs gave their scores a passing mention in the Back to the Mac keynote.
Last night I dreamed that I was Santy klauz and brung them new fangled things called toys to little girls and boys. Ride on! Ride on! Nothing worth watching here!
@windozefreak
And those toys were iPads and iPhones, right?
I dreamed I was `San(i)ty Clause, and I too brought kids toys. They were computers which displayed `Ubuntu` on the boot splash screen, and somewhere in the distance I heard Ballmer screaming: "NOOOOOOOOOO"!!!!.
And those toys were iPads and iPhones, right?
I dreamed I was `San(i)ty Clause, and I too brought kids toys. They were computers which displayed `Ubuntu` on the boot splash screen, and somewhere in the distance I heard Ballmer screaming: "NOOOOOOOOOO"!!!!.
@fatman65535
"in the distance I heard Ballmer screaming: "NOOOOOOOOOO"!!!!."
Aaah. Zhe Children of zhe Night, vhat sweet music zhey make..."
"in the distance I heard Ballmer screaming: "NOOOOOOOOOO"!!!!."
Aaah. Zhe Children of zhe Night, vhat sweet music zhey make..."
@fatman65535 Remember Microsoft Bob and Windows ME, now those were toy OS's! Vista on the other hand was a more of a virus than a toy!
For ME at least, the key section of the Video clip was the confrontation of two diametrically opposed (and categorical) statements of "fact". Ballmer said Windows is "Gaining market share", the other guy said exactly the opposite. Clearly, one of them is misinformed. Yet nobody (else) here seems interested in saying which guy was correct, and which one was simply WRONG.
Wikipedia isn't much help, but http://www.ghacks.net/2010/08/02/operating-system-market-share-windows-7-climb-continues/ suggests that Windows is gaining.
Wikipedia isn't much help, but http://www.ghacks.net/2010/08/02/operating-system-market-share-windows-7-climb-continues/ suggests that Windows is gaining.
@BigRonW because like with all statistics, you can make anything sound the way you want....
Ubuntu? Blech !! I'd rather resort to running OS X in a VM. Oh wait I am.
MS is not a hardware company. I'll grant that he should have been fired for Vista, but you can't blame hime for everything.
@pikeman666 ... He has blown countless billions of shareholders money on bings and bangs and zunes and kins and a bunch of other very expensive hobbies. I could have run that company better, and I'd have done it by dramatically increasing the regular dividend (no one-off dividend gimmicks), focusing on Windows, Office, Servers & tools, and cutting everything else loose. I'd have cut payroll by about 40%, concentrated on overpaid middle management. The stock would have soared, OS's would never have been better, and the shareholders would be throwing me parades.
@HollywoodDog
Is Mr. Jobs any better? Let's see... Apple introduces the iPhone 4 and consumers immediately notice reception issues. Apple identifies the internal antennae as the source and instead of fixing their obvious design flaw, they blame the end user. "You're holding the phone wrong, idiot!".
Do you remember the recent issues with Toyota vehicles and the accelerator getting stuck, causing accidents with people dying? Imagine if Toyota's response to the consumer was: "You're driving the car wrong, idiot!"
Ballmer's ability to run a business may be questionable, but he's obviously not the only CEO with his head up his a$$.
Is Mr. Jobs any better? Let's see... Apple introduces the iPhone 4 and consumers immediately notice reception issues. Apple identifies the internal antennae as the source and instead of fixing their obvious design flaw, they blame the end user. "You're holding the phone wrong, idiot!".
Do you remember the recent issues with Toyota vehicles and the accelerator getting stuck, causing accidents with people dying? Imagine if Toyota's response to the consumer was: "You're driving the car wrong, idiot!"
Ballmer's ability to run a business may be questionable, but he's obviously not the only CEO with his head up his a$$.
@HollywoodDog Would you have hired more engineers and fired lawyers, accountants and managers?
Another Apple coping trick! Mac OS 10.7 Lion has features that MicroSoft invented for Windows 9!
@yobtaf Well put. And if he keeps running Microsoft the way he is, we may have the opportunity to have him show us a used car!
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@NonZeal0t You obviously haven't bought a copy of Windows recently...
Why are Gartner comparing Apples to Oranges?
...(pun intended)
...(pun intended)
@scott2010au Should be "comparing Apples to Lemons"
Sorry, I just don't see it. Most enterprise cannot afford to upgrade Windows XP let alone buy Apple products.
Maybe Steve would hit the iceberg and order "Full speed, ahead" He really must lead a sheltered life.
Steve, what about all of us who no longer use or need Microsoft products?
Steve, what about all of us who no longer use or need Microsoft products?
Why do we keep having to read these stupid articles? At least once a week or more. M$ is a software company for the most part; Apple is a computer manufacturer. There's big differences in the business models of these two companies and they both have strenghts "in their own areas" of expertise.
On the iPad, I have one. I am by choice and budget a MS person. The iPad is nice, but I think regardless of how much it gains now, there are problems down the road. Downloading and inability to find WiFi 90% of the time or pay a ransom for 250 mb of bandwidth per month will inevitably slow down buying, regardless of iPad or Anodroid or MS tablets... Why fight to find WiFi to stream a movie when with a laptop with an optical drive you can bring your movies with you. THis was my first major problem.
On the iPad, I have one. I am by choice and budget a MS person. The iPad is nice, but I think regardless of how much it gains now, there are problems down the road. Downloading and inability to find WiFi 90% of the time or pay a ransom for 250 mb of bandwidth per month will inevitably slow down buying, regardless of iPad or Anodroid or MS tablets... Why fight to find WiFi to stream a movie when with a laptop with an optical drive you can bring your movies with you. THis was my first major problem.
A personal opinion: Ballmer doesn't project intelligence. I have nothing in common with that man.
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