>> Larry Ellison: I'm going to be very brief, but I just want to repeat a little bit of my presentation on Sunday, which is the Exalogic cloud on the box. I have to chuckle a little bit about the phrase cloud in a box, because I know that the CEO of Salesforce.com says, Larry just doesn't get it. Clouds don't run in a box. Okay? So what does he think Salesforce.com runs on, if not on a box? Doesn't run on a box. Actually Salesforce.com runs on 1,500 Dell servers, which are boxes. One thousand five hundred of them. Now, he really got upset because we don't have an Exalogic box here on stage, but the Exalogic box is about this tall. And he was really offended the box was taller than he was. And he said, clouds especially don't run on boxes that are tall. I mean, please look this -- you can't make this stuff up. Okay. Do you think those 1,500 Dell boxes are all really like low to the ground? You'd need acres and acres. You put them -- you stack them up, could you use less floor space? Unless you have really low ceilings. Applause
>> The thing that's interesting -- let's look at the next slide about this. What the Exalogic machine is, it's 30 servers, InfiniBand networking, a lot of storage, a virtual machine, operating system, middleware, that runs all of your applications, including Salesforce.com. This is actually kind of the ideal box. If you wanted to go say from 1,500 servers to 400 or whatever -- I don't know what the right number is, but certainly a lot less than he's got, he would pick Exalogic. It's kind of the ideal machine to run an application like Salesforce.com. But somehow I go back to the phrase, "Larry, you don't get it. A cloud does not run on a box." And this is the problem I've had with the term cloud computing. I think we made a big point of defining what we mean by cloud computing. We mean what Amazon means by cloud computing. We mean it's a platform; that means hardware and software; that's right, a box in software -- I'm sorry. It's a computer. It really is a computer. A cloud, by the way, folks, is a lot of computers on the network. It's a lot of boxes and a lot of software. Now, we think the software has to have certain characteristics. We think it has to be virtualized. It has to be elastic. I made a bunch of statements what we think cloud is, but our view and Amazon's view are pretty much the same. So we kind of took what Amazon had, put it -- had an Oracle flavor to it, and put the hardware and the software. So our customers can build private clouds out of this box, or a company like Salesforce or NetSuite or Oracle Corporation, can use these boxes for building public clouds. But I'm sure when Mark gets back and talks to his technical people, they'll let him know in fact, that you do need boxes. You really do. And what we're doing is we think the box should be efficient. It should be fast. It should be reliable. And if you combine the hard -- if you engineer the hardware and the software to work together in the box, you're going to get a much better experience, and I think the Salesforce customers and Salesforce.com would both benefit if they took a close look at Exalogic and got Exalogic and Exadata to run their cloud. And okay, I'll stop right there.
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