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The future, reusable paper

April 9, 2008, 4:48pm PDT | Length: 00:04:17
At the Gartner Symposium/ITxpo in Las Vegas, Steve Hoover, vice president with Xerox Research Center Webster, shows off a technology being developed in the company's labs that enables people to reuse a piece of paper. The paper contains a photochromic compound that makes ink disappear when hit by direct heat.

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The future, reusable paper

Gavin Newsom: We are now looking at harnessing Mother Nature in a very subsistent and significant way.

Kara Tsuboi: San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is referring to two renewable energy programs the city is exploring, Power Tap to the Power of the Ocean.

Mayor Newsom: This is not science fiction; this is not Discovery Channel.

Kara: The first is wave power.

Mayor Newsom: These wave energy platforms exist around the world, so this one truly isn't rocket science. It' just going to require subsidized costs to be invested upfront and demonstrate a capacity to do it again on scale where we can really take advantage of the entire coast.

Kara: Proposed off the city's Ocean Beach the feasibility of this project is currently under review.

Mayor Newsom: So I don't care what the study says, I just want the study to direct us in a better way.

Kara: Even if the reports are negative?

Mayor Newsom: It just gets us to think a little differently, so we can act a little differently. I want to use that information just to make us make a better bad decision, based upon what our critics believe, but a better decision based on what our supporters believe.

Kara: Pacific Gas and Electric Company have already backed a pilot program that could potentially provide two megawatts of electricity, enough to power 1,500 homes.

Mayor Newsom: The vision also really being, replacing all the polluting oil platforms off the coast of California with green wave generating energy platforms.

Kara: The second program under review is Tidal Power.

Mayor Newsom: Just unbelievable untapped energy that comes in, it's like a toilet bowl. Every single day it sort of flushes in, and flushes out.

Kara: Mayor Newsom is referring to a site 600 meters east of the Golden Gate Bridge that can one day house a tidal power device.

Woman: It's very similar to wind turbulence except it's underwater. Because water is so much denser than wind the devices don't have to be as large as the large scale wind devices. So world class tidal current is about four or five knots, and we've got about two to two and a half knots under the Golden Gate Bridge.

Kara: This limited size of tidal power and the overall expense of the device is why a newly released feasibility study does not recommend the city move forward with the Tidal Power Project just yet.

Woman: We're hoping that there would be more potential there.

Kara: Mayor Newsom however, is undeterred.

Mayor Newsom: That's because it's a brand new technology, it's never been done. It's never been scaled commercially in North America. So it's just like solar, until you bring it to scale these new technologies are always going to cost more.

Kara: By the year 2012, San Francisco has set some audacious rules for its renewable energy programs.

Women: Well, our peak power usage in San Francisco is about 950 megawatts. So we're looking at 50 megawatts of that, only, coming from renewables, and that's going to be a big target, a big goal for us to reach.

Mayor Newsom: If we believe in energy independence, and I do, as the paramount for a policy for this country. Rather than subsidizing failed wars overseas, billions may die, I'd rather see a subsidizing more enlightened policies for alternative sources of fuel and energy.

Kara: I'm Kara Tsuboi, CNET News.com.

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RE: The future, reusable paper
JackHipple 31st Jul 2009
This is a great example of the use of the TRIZ problem solving principle of "separation upon condition" where a system or product changes its behavior or properties in response to a change in force or condition
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Reusable Paper
cleon7177@... 9th Apr 2008
Reusable paper is a technology long overdue. Let's save the trees and the large amounts of energy that manufacturing gobbles up.
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RE: The future, reusable paper
Non Compos Mentis 10th Apr 2008
I see many uses for this technique.

New subject: The other day I heard a guy on the weather channel say that one tree can be spared by recycling a three-foot stack of newspapers. Apparently many ill-informed people have bought into the myth that trees are spared as paper is recycled. The trees that are used for newsprint are grown specifically for that purpose. As less newsprint is used, fewer pulpwood trees are planted. In know because I grow pulpwood trees (loblolly pine).
Energy is saved by recycling newsprint, so I'm all for the recycling, but recycling paper does not save trees.
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RE: The future, reusable paper
ruthiec@... 10th Apr 2008
If the cost of the copiers/printers and paper and "ink" is competitive with the current costs, this would be great. However, we all know Xerox is in business to make money and following past trends (i.e. the Xerox Phaser) the cost of their copiers, ink, maintenance kits, etc. is so much higher that paper is such a tiny part of the overall costs. Yes, going green is good, but at a lesser cost not greater one would be fantastic.
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Costs vs costs
techr@... 10th Apr 2008
First of all, I hope that the demonstrator did not do any permanent eye damage staring into a UV light source.

A few things that come to mind:
I'd better use a high tech paper clip or binder, because it wouldn't take to standard paper clips to make this paper bind and even less staples.

The heat source required to "erase" the paper; can this be any more efficient as the fuser in a copier or laser printer.

I print on paper it is usually for notations or comparision, quite often I use a highlighter. Am I out of the norm, or is this something that is going to have it's nitch?
As a side thought to this, how energy will be consumed using light pens?

Will the paper come in white?

I'm waiting for my polarized paper. The technology appeared shortly in electronic book readers, but these are still pricey and don't appear to widely in use. When this technology was introduced, it was going to be so cheap, that store price signs were going to using it.
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Wow. Sorry for the missing words
techr@... 10th Apr 2008
Truely wish they would allow editing of posts.

Clarifications:
1) It should be too many paper clips..
2)When I print on paper..
3).., how much energy..
No [existing] printer company is going to support this. They all make their money on the toner, ink, drums, etc. If I understand this correctly there would be virtually NO consumables. Maybe a new box of paper now and then but the paper gets reused too.

Sounds great for the consumer, great for the environment, but someone still has to build and sell the things. Are we going to want to pay $10,000 for one of these even after the market matures? They do not seem like something that could start out replacing the huge thing we might have in a copy center either.

and... Wasn't IBM supposed to have cheap, flexible, color displays produced using existing laminating technology that is used to make potato chip bags by now?
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I don't think this IS a joke...
gordon.jones@... 13th Apr 2008
"No [existing] printer company is going to support this. They all make their money on the toner, ink, drums, etc. If I understand this correctly there would be virtually NO consumables. Maybe a new box of paper now and then but the paper gets reused too."

Isn't that sort of like saying that no big camera company is going to support making digital cameras because then there wouldn't be any consumables, and even the memory chip used to store the photos could be manufactured by someone else? CLEARLY people will jump on the idea of re-usable paper and the printers that go with it IF IT'S PRICED RIGHT. Furthermore, this is not an all or nothing deal: standard paper and printers aren't going to have to disappear for this to work. In fact (and again depending on price) companies could easily phase out some of their standard printers for the new re-usable paper printers to give employees a choice about printing "permanently" or "re-usably".
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It's Not Necessarily A Joke.
Beast Of Bodmin 18th Jun 2008
Like no-one will buy an expensive TV instead of going to the cinema or listening to the radio?

Where did you get the $10,000 figure from? Assuming it's true, how long does it take for an average company to spend $10,000 on a printer/ copier/ FAX, including paper?

Xerox make printers and photocopiers too remember.

Yes, it might go nowhere. I'd like to see an energy balance equation comparing the "well to wheel" energy costs of producing a piece of the stuff vs ordinary paper, and another equation quantifying the energy costs of using said paper a second time.

This stuff might have an EROI as bad as corn for ethanol.

Have you been watching the price of petrol increase in your country, and not once think about how this might be a clue that cheap energy has gone away for a long time now?
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RE: The future, reusable paper
Elwood Diverse 16th Jun 2008
What we need is computerized paper that will display whatever is loaded onto it. Imagine a single sheet of newsprint that can hold the whole Sunday Times, or a bound book that can be loaded with any literary content. Then have a pen that records your output directly on the "paper" via the built-in chip. It can be saved and/or overloaded with new content easily, limited only by the memory capability of the paper.
I agree that "paper" that actually would be a type of rewriteable LCD/OLED/LED would be more practical than sheets of paper to put in a printer.

As far as sheets of paper are concerned, why not go back to the old "biblical scroll" system where the "printed" material would be on a double-scroll which would be unrolled like we scroll on our display in order to read it.

It would have to be flexible, and preferably would reproduce color as well as black/white.

From what i saw of this invention, the paper itself is a rather unattractive yellow, the image left by the UV led was blueish. I don't think that an office would want to reinvest in special printers and paper which would probably cost far more than current paper and would not be able to reproduce colors.

Years ago, i paid $800.00 for a printer that used rolls of heat sensitive paper in a dot matrix array. Over time the paper would darken. It always had a funny feel and didn't reproduce very well.

The reuseable sheets described sound like a throwback to the old days.

Regards: General Ludd (a real old throwbac)
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RE: The future, reusable paper
JackHipple 31st Jul 2009
This is a great example of the use of the TRIZ problem solving principle of "separation upon condition" where a system or product changes its behavior or properties in response to a change in force or condition

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