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>> Host: Security and innovation have been perceived as not going hand in hand, and often security is seen as an excuse not to do something. How do you manage that intersection?
>> Interviewee: Well, it's interesting. When I, when I worked for the federal government, it was pretty easy. Security was easy to manage. You just said No to everything. But when you go to a, a company that wants, wants to be innovative, you pretty much have to say Yes to everything. The two have always been at odds with one another, and I think a good security professional would, would anticipate the kinds of things that are going to occur from an innovation perspective in a company and try to, try to secure that as best as possible. Let me give you an example. Just a use phonetic case on this would be the iPhone. A very popular mobile device. It's, it's, it's extremely popular amongst consumers, and, and because people who work in companies are also consumers, they want to be able to use that same kind of fun or cool technology in their company. So rather than try to block that kind of stuff, you, you almost always fail by doing that because eventually you'll reach the level of the executive you can't say No to. And they'll, they'll get to have one, and then they'll show everyone that they have it. So ideally, what you want to do is that you want to anticipate these cool technologies or these innovative technologies making their way into the enterprise, and, and try to put security measures in place that allow people to use innovative technologies but in a secure fashion. So rather than try to block them, try to secure them.
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