Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?

September 28, 2009, 8:15am PDT | Length: 00:05:45
Will Microsoft's Windows 7 succeed where Vista failed? The new operating system offers a new graphical user interface, more reliable power management tools, and better search, but it still might not offer enough to convince PC users to buy it. ZDNet Correspondent Sumi Das talks to Larry Dignan, editor in chief of ZDNet, and Ed Bott, ZDNet's Microsoft Report blogger, about Windows 7's pros and cons.

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Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?

Introduction

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Sumi Das: Hello I'm Sumi Das for ZDNet. Microsoft's new operating system, Windows 7, rolls out on October 22. The much anticipated OS will sport a new graphical user interface, more reliable power management tools, and better search, among other features. But will it be enough to get businesses and consumers to upgrade? With me to talk about Windows 7 is Larry Dignan, ZDNet's editor in chief, and Ed Bott a ZDNet blogger who writes the Microsoft report. Gentlemen, thank you for joining me.

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Larry Dignan and Ed Bott: Good to be here.

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Sumi Das: So Microsoft's general manager, Charles Songhurst, recently said in an invester conference that he couldn't be more bullish about Windows 7's prospects; not surprising. But he has said that "it's a compellingly good product and it's led to renewed belief in innovation in the Windows 7 franchise". How important of a release, Ed, is this for Microsoft? I mean, it's a fairly significant upgrade.

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Ed Bott: It's huge. In fact it's a... you could call it a bet the company release. Microsoft needs the revenue of course, and there's a lot of revenue that comes from Windows, it's the cash cow. But they also need to get their respect back. I don't think it's possible to overstate what an impact the debacle of the Vista launch had on Microsoft's reputation. So what they need to establish now is they can deliver software on time, of high quality, and that delivers benefits to their customers. Now the good news is that they've been delivering a series of milestones for the past year or so, Beta's release candidates and now the release code; and consumers and corporations have been running that code and so far the buzz has been very, very good. A lot of good feedback on Windows 7.

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Sumi Das: So they're betting the farm then?

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Ed Bott: Betting the farm

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Sumi Das: Larry, in many respects Windows Vista was forced upon IT managers, and as Ed just said, Vista was a low point for Microsoft. Businesses didn't care for it. So given that the economy is just starting to recover, are we going to see businesses upgrading?

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Larry Dignan: It's really a total wildcard right now. Michael Dell, who's not exactly an impartial observer, has... he's betting on a 2010 upgrade cycle.

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Sumi Das: He's also invested.

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Larry Dignan: Very invested. But the whole rationale is that the older PC's, it's just going to be harder to maintain and it's going to be more costly to support them. So companies are going to look at this, they're going to look at Windows 7 features, and basically say, we'll upgrade because it will save us money. That's the case, but it's a total wildcard.

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Sumi Das: Right, that seems logical but most people prefer to pay small sums of money versus a large lump sum up front.

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Larry Dignan: Yeah, and it's going to be company specific. Some companies are going to try to get a few more years out of their PC's, others might make the jump, but it's going to be hit or miss.

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Sumi Das: Now Ed, I know that you've been running the release code of Windows 7, correct?

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Ed Bott: Right.

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Sumi Das: So what is it about Windows 7? Tell us about the features that are going to convince IT managers that they need to upgrade.

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Ed Bott: Well one of the big benefits for corporate customers is all these companies that in the last 2 years bought machines that were perfectly capable of running Windows 7, but then downgraded them to XP. It's very simple upgrade cycle for them, and they get some pretty significant benefits out of them. They get better manageability. There was a feature that was available in Windows Vista, but chose not to take advantage of it, but it's there now. An employee's laptop gets compromised by a virus, you can reinstall Windows 7 in a matter of 20 minutes and they're back up and running. And then there's one wildcard that Microsoft has been talking a lot about lately. They released some studies, now admittedly these come from Microsoft so let's take them with a large grain of salt, but they've been talking about the power savings that companies can get from deploying Windows 7. The Windows 7 PC uses less power, and saves energy compared to Windows XP. So in some cases Microsoft has made the argument that a company can earn back the cost of the upgrade in a year or 2, just from power savings alone.

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Sumi Das: Appealing to the greener minds out there?

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Ed Bott: Yep. Microsoft's going green.

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Sumi Das: OK. Alright let's talk about consumers now. Apple's done a remarkable job. Their I'm a PC, I'm a Mac campaign has been really wildly popular. They've done a... yeah, they've done a good job marketing the consumers. Microsoft hasn't had as much luck. I would say that the Bill Gates-Seinfeld ad campaign was a flop. I think that's fair to say right?

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Ed Bott: Disaster.

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Sumi Das: OK. I like the Microsoft Bing ads, I will say that, but I'm just wondering have they lost their mojo when it comes to appealing to consumers?

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Ed Bott: Well, like businesses, Microsoft has to get some consumer credibility. They have Apple envy, they're kind of blatant about it.

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Sumi Das: Yeah, it's apparent.

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Ed Bott: Yeah, the consumer can see through it. And Microsoft has to get some of that cool factor back with consumers, and that's why they're targeting the consumers pretty much first before the businesses; because they're trying to get the word of mouth, they're trying to get their message out there, and if they can get some consumer buy in then maybe it makes it easier to get the corporate upgrades.

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Sumi Das: Hoping those consumers will go to their IT managers at work and say, look I'm using it at home, it's working...

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Ed Bott: It's the iPhone formula.

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Sumi Das: OK.

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Larry Dignan: Well cool is great, but cool comes with a price tag. And the last time I looked, the average Mac cost just a few bucks shy of 1,500 dollars, and the average PC costs well under 1,000 dollars. So when consumers walk into the stores, they may want to be cool but they see those 2 pricetags side by side, it's going to be hard to resist the one that's half what the other one is; especially in this economy.

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Sumi Das: That's right. Ed, Larry, thank you so much for being with me today.

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Ed Bott and Larry Dignan: Thanks for having us.

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Sumi Das: For more information on Windows 7, you can go to Blogs.zdnet.com. I'm Sumi Das, thanks for watching.

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Talkback Most Recent of 11 Talkback(s)

  • Definitely.
    Whether from Vista or even XP, Windows 7 is
    definitely a good upgrade. Vista users will get
    performance back to XP levels (or better, I've
    heard), and XP users will get all of the new
    features of Vista (and some new ones specific to
    7) with none of the troubles that Vista had.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    CobraA1
    28th Sep 2009
  • RE: Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?
    What do you think about the large base of corporations
    and individuals who have XP machines that have no upgrade
    choice except a clean install? It is not an easy chore to
    do a clean install and many people are actually happy
    using XP. What is the convincing factor to make them
    change?
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    DoverNH
    29th Sep 2009
  • So what?
    Better power management isn't a concern to me.

    Another whoop-de-do user interface? I'm satisfied with the one I have. the new one doesn't look any more efficient to use than Windows 95.
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    Dr_Zinj
    29th Sep 2009
  • think before you post
    Shows your ignorance. Since 95? Have you even tried windows 7 beta, RC? If so then you got to be a bigger idiot than I thought. the user interface is way better than 95, it's not close. 2nd power improvments is big for businesses, especially for those with notebook or netbook comptuers which businesses heavily rely on. 3rd, is speed improvement and productivity. Guess what xp is getting older and is showing it's age. Eventually businesses will have to adopt to a newer operating system to keep up to date with the lastest support from Microsoft. Eventually, many software makers will stop providing support to XP, if your a business you cannot afford to be left behind when everyone else is adopting the latest. XP works great for the time it is out but eventually, change will come you can't stop it and it will happen. As a consumer, im excited for the featurews windows 7 has. In addition, if you want the latest OS 7 offers including the benefits of XP Virtual PC, many businesses can run their current software using VPC XP inside windows 7. So you get the best of both worlds. But hey I'm just a regular guy.
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    amb7247@...
    1st Oct 2009
  • RE: Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?
    Maybe you should it out instead of using win95. (this one was to Dr. Zin)
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    kennboy1
    30th Sep 2009
  • RE: Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?
    I've been wondering the same thing!! The big question I keep asking --- should my business upgrade now...or wait till later? I decided to do some trolling on the net and found this the other day - an interactive webcast put on by Forrester on Tuesday, Oct. 6th at 9am (PST)

    http://bit.ly/RUReadyforWin7 (sorry for the shotened link --- but I thought the group here may find it useful too.

    Forrester's Benjamin Gray discusses his latest report "Get Ready for Windows 7" and whether or not your organization should deploy the Windows 7 operating system now or test applications and hardware against Windows Vista for greater compatibility with Windows 7. Benjamin also shares what he believes to be the top five Windows 7 features and his recommendations for customers running Windows XP or Windows Vista.

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    littleecon
    30th Sep 2009
  • RE: Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?
    Windows XP is the best operating system to come out for
    Windows since 3.14 for Work Groups was state of the art.
    I've tried all of the other Windows operating systems,
    either on my own computer or on those of friends. I wish
    Microsoft would quit trying to cram new operating systems
    down our throats (okay, hard drives) and continue to make
    sensible upgrades for XP. Call this newest (Windows 7)
    XP service pack 4.
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    Bob Dean
    1st Oct 2009
  • re: think before you post
    I'll bet you're just a regular guy... If you're actually concerned about software 'showing its age' then you should be advocating a free open source alternative like linux, firefox, open office, etc., etc. because that is truly the future and if you can't see it, then pull your head out of your behind, eh? I happen to agree with Dr. Z here, you just look like an ass.
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    johnjohnjohnhoj
    8th Oct 2009
  • XP is thier worst upgrade enemy
    The problem as I see it is XP was/is such a success and is so heavily deployed Vista as well as Windows 7 is like trying to move a mack truck over with a VW. I have Vista Business Ultimate and there is no doubt in my mind it is nothing more than a XP SP4 and Windows 7 looks like SP5. The reason Microsoft is marketing it as a new OS is money, pure and simple. Intel, AMD works hand in hand with Microsoft so that hardware is developed to software specifications and vica-versa..yes? so there's another roadblock for development and innovation. I think software, other than additional "cutesy" graphical changes, energy savings,etc has almost reached its marketable limits and has surely made any "wow" reactions very difficult.
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    JonhsMan
    19th Oct 2009
  • one other point...
    Most of us already have the new features already in trusted 3 party apps with either our XP or Vista platforms now so again justifying the expense and time is difficult to rationalize. It seems like an age old question we have faced before, buy 1 tool that has many functions or several tools with specialized functions
    The pre-release pricing was very tempting though and fairly agressive for Microsoft
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    JonhsMan
    20th Oct 2009
  • RE: Windows 7: A worthwhile upgrade?
    I did it for my wife's laptop and it is better than Vista, it could not be any worse, but still garbage. I bit the bullet and bought her a Mac and she couldn't be happier and me too, no more maintenance. I upgraded my laptop to Linux (Ubuntu 10.10) and it is better than any OS Microcrap has ever put out and it is free, also very easy to install and no maintenance or anti-virus etc. and did I mention it is FREE.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Goldcds
    17th Nov 2010

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