In this latest episode of the Dan & David Show, we assess Oracle's, and CEO Larry Ellison's, transition from swashbuckling buccaneers and serial acquirers to software industry statesman, pledging allegiance to open standards, lifetime support and choice for customers. Of course, Ellison couldn't resist taking a few shots at SAP this week, and hopes that his salesforce.com stock (4 million shares) becomes worthless. I spend a few minutes on my trip to DEMOfall 05 this week. We also discuss Microsoft's big reorg and what Google really wants to become when it grows up, and David gives an update on his Windows Vista beta testing. He also continues to rant about the Microsoft/OpenDocument format controversy. All this and more in about 20 minutes that can be delivered directly to your desktop or MP3 player if you're subscribed to our podcasts (See ZDNet’s podcasts: How to tune in), or if you want you can just download the MP3. Let us know what you think.