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Transcript: PDC08 Keynote – Ray Ozzie, Amitabh Srivastava, Bob Muglia and David Thompson

Todd Bishop, TechFlash; Ed Bott, ZDNet;  Kip Kniskern, Liveside; Rafael Rivera, Within Windows; Paul Thurrott, Windows Supersite; and Tom Warren, Neowin; and Long Zheng, Istartedsomething — and yours truly--did a group blog of the first PDC keynote.Here's the live blog transcript (speakers: Ray Ozzie, Amitabh Srivastava, Bob Muglia and David Thompson):8:04Long Zheng:   8:04Long Zheng:  Hello all and welcome to the liveblog.

Todd Bishop, TechFlash; Ed Bott, ZDNet;  Kip Kniskern, Liveside; Rafael Rivera, Within Windows; Paul Thurrott, Windows Supersite; and Tom Warren, Neowin; and Long Zheng, Istartedsomething — and yours truly--did a group blog of the first PDC keynote.

Here's the live blog transcript (speakers: Ray Ozzie, Amitabh Srivastava, Bob Muglia and David Thompson):

8:04

Long Zheng:  

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8:04

Long Zheng:  Hello all and welcome to the liveblog.

8:04

Long Zheng:  Your hosts are, Ed Bott (http://www.edbott.com), Paul Thurrott (http://www.winsupersite), Kip Kniskern (http://www.liveside.net), Mary Jo Foley (http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft), Rafael Rivera (http://www.withinwindows.com), Tom Warren (http://www.neowin.net), Todd Bishop (http://www.techflash.net) and Long Zheng (http://www.istartedsomething.com).

8:04

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Good morning all

8:05

Paul:  Good morning all.

8:06

Rafael Rivera:  Aloha! We're blogging about Windows 8 right?

8:06

[Comment From Joel] Hi, guys - thanks for doing this. Have fun!

8:06

[Comment From Brandon LeBlanc] Good morning...and stuff.

8:07

[Comment From Rahul] No silly, Windows 9

8:07

[Comment From Matt] Yes thanks all of you fro doing this! Good to see you here as well Brandon..

8:07

[Comment From Jcool] Hey Paul, try not to mention the iPhone too many times. :)

8:07

[Comment From Tom Riley] Is the Cloud OS keynote part of this main one now?

8:07

Long Zheng:  @Tom Riley: I think cloud OS will be a big part of this keynote.

8:08

[Comment From Carl] Will we get photos through the keynote?

8:08

Long Zheng:  @Carl: I'll be taking lots of pictures

8:08

[Comment From ZippyV] Is there a videofeed where we can follow this?

8:08

Long Zheng:  @ZippyV: Check my blog, the links are there

8:09

Long Zheng:  

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8:09

Long Zheng:  Hall filling up

8:09

Rafael Rivera:  @Emmanuel: Definitely tired. Long is very demanding of us...

8:10

[Comment From Freak180] Are we going to see any pictures of windows 7?

8:10

Long Zheng:  Not today Freak180. Windows 7 is all Tuesday

8:10

[Comment From Charles] Live stream: http://www.microsoftpdc.com/

8:11

Paul:  Where do I file my W-2? I think the new guy (Todd) covers that. :)

8:12

[Comment From Tom Riley] Loving the "Windows 7 is actually Windows XP?" banner. I guess MS want to keep clear of the...V word.... :P

8:12

[Comment From Nero] Do you think the cloud OS is related to the major Mesh update this week?

8:12

Long Zheng:  @Nero: Maybe!

8:12

[Comment From ZippyV] Room looks not so big

8:12

Long Zheng:  @ZippyV: Just a little dark

8:12

[Comment From ricky] how long untill it starts?

8:12

Long Zheng:  @ricky: 8.30am

8:14

Long Zheng:  Side note: Comments are manually inserted into the liveblog. Thanks for everyone's comments, but I can't add all of them. We do see all of them though.

8:14

Paul:  The Windows 7 banner in the entrance to the LACC reminds me of Windows 2000, not XP. It's got the same solid and hollow squares.

8:15

Rafael Rivera:  To those playing along from LA, the press seating will be opening up to general public (not filled). Grab your seats now!

8:15

Long Zheng:  Music is still going...

8:16

Long Zheng:  I just want to thank everyone for coming. It's pretty astonishing how many people joined in so little time.

8:16

[Comment From Jay] is the music over there the same music playing on the video stream?

8:16

Rafael Rivera:  @Jay: Is it retarded? Yes.

8:16

Paul:  I believe we're going to see Windows Server 2008 R2 and Cloud OS today...

8:17

Paul:  Raf's just mad they used his playlist

8:17

Rafael Rivera:  Yes, my playlist consists purely of Windows Sample music. Like humans do baby!

8:19

Long Zheng:  

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8:19

Long Zheng:  Still filling

8:19

Paul:  ooh pictures. Its the geek of the week awards. that guy in the front is going to win [crosses fingers]

8:19

Long Zheng:  Music stopped

8:19

Long Zheng:  Too soon, started again.

8:20

Paul:  Long: First time at PDC?   :) It starts at 8:30. And Microsoft is never early!   :)

8:21

Paul:  @redx: Not that you know of.   :|

8:22

Long Zheng:  

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8:23

Long Zheng:  Channel 9 guy

8:23

[Comment From Alpha] I like pie

8:23

Rafael Rivera:  @Alpha: Indeed.

8:23

Long Zheng:  WIfi is still up. The signal gods are pleased. I sacrificed much last night.

8:24

[Comment From george] this might sound stupid but can we see windows 7 today?

8:24

Long Zheng:  @george: No. No Windows 7 today.

8:24

Ed Bott:  Hello world!

8:25

Paul:  Yeah, don't expect anything on the Win7 front today. Silly. But there it is.

8:25

Paul:  Hey Ed.

8:25

[Comment From steve] how long does the keynote last?

8:25

Long Zheng:  @Steve: 2 hours

8:25

[Comment From Michael] Hopefully your music in the hall is better than the stuff coming through the web.

8:25

Long Zheng:  @Michael: Don't think so

8:25

[Comment From NickHodge] Coveritlive is full of win

8:26

[Comment From Tom] Everyone forget Windows 7. "Cloud OS" is the way forward :)

8:26

[Comment From Ichiro] I really wanna know if the new "Cloud OS" will sit on top of Windows or be independent OS?

8:26

[Comment From Brian] Are Live Mesh announcements coming later in the week as well?

8:26

Long Zheng:  @Brian: Mesh should be today.

8:27

Long Zheng:  "Good morning and welcome. Begin in a few minutes"

8:27

Rafael Rivera:  IMG_0586 by you.

8:27

Rafael Rivera:  Press room this morning.

8:27

Rafael Rivera:  Paul is the ape on the left.

8:27

Paul:  But what a fine looking example of the species

8:28

[Comment From Nick] Paul you didn't bring your mac book? lol

8:28

[Comment From AndrewM] Where is Mary Jo?!?!?

8:28

Long Zheng:  Still missing MJ. Tom Warren.

8:28

Long Zheng:  And Kip.

8:28

Paul:  MJ is here. Tom is in keynote hall.

8:28

Long Zheng:  And our latest contestant, Todd Bishop.

8:28

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] The unwashed masses at NotAtPDC.com conference, tweets at http://twitter.com/notatpdc

8:28

Paul:  He is in keynote hall as well. (Todd, that is.)

8:29

[Comment From steve] http://blogs.msdn.com/cloud/default.aspx

8:29

[Comment From Vik] Just checking. Are you guys getting my comments?

8:29

Rafael Rivera:  @Vik: Yes sir.

8:29

[Comment From Ste (Neowin)] out of interest are these filtered?

8:29

Long Zheng:  Not filtered, but we have to manually promote them.

8:30

[Comment From Daniel] Live stream for people that don't know is available here: http://www.microsoftpdc.com/

8:30

[Comment From PayneX] is this austin powers or james bond music?

8:30

Rafael Rivera:  @All: Comments are all moderated. MJ says hello!

8:30

Long Zheng:  We have 424 unique viewers right now. Thanks all. This is awesome fun.

8:31

[Comment From Sebastian] "Starts in 5 minutes" is being said in the webcast

8:31

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] What is this keynote about?

8:31

Long Zheng:  Cloud OS, Mesh

8:31

[Comment From Sarah Perez] hello to my favorite bloggers - thank you thank you for liveblogging this!

8:32

LiveSide:  Barcalounger section checking in

8:32

Paul:  Windows Azure?? Pfftt.

8:32

Paul:  You gotta love "ass-pirational" names.

8:32

Long Zheng:  "Good morning"

8:32

Long Zheng:  "About to begin"

8:32

Rafael Rivera:  I hear the FCC coming...

8:33

Long Zheng:  "Thank you" Thank you too.

8:33

[Comment From Dovella] See here Paul http://blogs.msdn.com/cloud/default.aspx

8:33

LiveSide:  Long Zheng: gangblogger secretary

8:33

[Comment From Martijn Brant] Paul. Bad taste ;)

8:33

Long Zheng:  

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8:33

[Comment From kirb] Paul: http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx

8:33

Paul:  Jerry P.!

8:33

[Comment From Mike B.] Are we going to see Windows Mojave? :-P

8:33

Mary Jo Foley:  i want to see the lounge chairs!

8:33

Rafael Rivera:  @Mike: I hope so.

8:34

Long Zheng:  

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8:34

Long Zheng:  Thank you sponsors

8:35

[Comment From Alex Wilks] Rumour:Microsoft introduces cloud-based MIDI-Conference-Music-Composer

8:35

Ed Bott:  Tap, tap, tap.. Is this thing on?

8:35

[Comment From Michael] Got to feel sorry for AMD - it's the last PDC they'll ever see

8:36

Ed Bott:  Wireless access by Yoyodyne, apparently.

8:36

Long Zheng:  Lights down

8:37

Long Zheng:  Ray Ozzie is on

8:37

Long Zheng:  "Transformations..fundamentally embrace services."

8:37

Paul:  Ray is less whiny than Gates.   I like that.

8:37

Long Zheng:  The first row of camera is crazy.

8:37

Rafael Rivera:  Bloggers are less than 0.01% percent...

8:37

Ed Bott:  Ozzie: A "turning point" and a "transformation"

8:37

Mary Jo Foley:  I'm just glad Ozzie doesn't wear a black turtleneck

8:38

Long Zheng:  

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8:38

Paul:  No, thank YOU Ray. :)

8:38

[Comment From Justin] wonder if they will announce the Microsoft Online Services (hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, Live Meeting, etc)

8:38

Long Zheng:  To many photographers "no more flash" means more flash.

8:39

LiveSide:  took a while to get back in, internet slowed down ;p

8:39

Mary Jo Foley:  I think they definitely will talk about online services, since Thompson is here

8:39

Long Zheng:  

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8:39

Paul:  three things that kept ray betting on MS: MS builds its own key platform apps (which verify the platform) ...

8:39

Ed Bott:  "Placing bets on Microsoft"

8:39

Paul:  2) MS' key platforms are popular, stable foundations

8:39

LiveSide:  Nice haircut, Ray

8:40

Ed Bott:  Do you feel lucky, developers?

8:40

Long Zheng:  

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8:40

Paul:  3) Bill and Steve always understood that to be successful, partners needed to be succesful too

8:40

Long Zheng:  First row is crazy

8:40

Paul:  The press room is very calm.

8:40

LiveSide:  Press are boring, Paul

8:40

[Comment From Dion] heyyyyyyyyy u guys are like 20 sec ahead of me seeing him say it

8:40

Long Zheng:  Netconnected devices. Lots of talk.

8:40

Paul:  I;m watching the keynote not the press :)

8:41

Long Zheng:  "Best of software, with best access of services."

8:41

Paul:  Ozzie: All-up, end to end Software + Services strategy

8:41

Long Zheng:  Activation codes for new services!

8:41

Ed Bott:  Mapping out their strategy, end to end

8:41

Mary Jo Foley:  Tomorrow is about the front end: Client OS, tools, runtimes, services

8:41

Long Zheng:  Tomorrow they talk about client OS.

8:41

Long Zheng:  

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8:42

Mary Jo Foley:  Today is all about back end and platforms

8:42

Rafael Rivera:  DVDs will have Windows "7" Build 6801

8:42

Long Zheng:  Ray reads "Cloud thing vastly overblown"

8:42

Paul:  Ray: "this cloud thing is vastly overblown", critics say.

8:42

Ed Bott:  No iPhones or Androids  on the screen full of devices

8:42

[Comment From Justin] is that the M3 build?

8:42

Rafael Rivera:  @Justin: Yes.

8:42

LiveSide:  'this cloud thing" might be overblown, snipe at Oracle

8:43

Paul:  It's the Sims!

8:43

Long Zheng:  Virtualization on screen

8:43

Paul:  Sims Datacenter Edition 2008   :)

8:43

Long Zheng:  "Inwardly facing solutions"

8:43

LiveSide:  Easy on the pics, Long, you're kicking me out :P

8:43

Long Zheng:  

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8:44

[Comment From Imran Hussain] How come you guys are reporting things earlier than the MS video stream? Is the streaming delayed???

8:44

LiveSide:  externalization of IT

8:44

Rafael Rivera:  Delayed due to FCC regs. You know, there might be a wardrobe malfunction...

8:44

Long Zheng:  Far richer forms of customer interaction...

8:44

Long Zheng:  Forums, wikis, blogs

8:44

Paul:  I hope he gets specific soon. This is booooorrring.

8:44

Long Zheng:  

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8:45

LiveSide:  The sims attack Redmond

8:45

Long Zheng:  

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8:45

Ed Bott:  Graphic shows Redmond as center of universe

8:45

Long Zheng:  Web presence critical to web business

8:45

Paul:  Its not just a graphic. It's a literal representation :)

8:45

Rafael Rivera:  (reminds me of Intel's IT Manager game...)

8:45

Mary Jo Foley:  Previous separate roles of IT pros and developers now need to work together

8:46

LiveSide:  we're 'enmeshed"

8:46

[Comment From Dave Bost] You guys need a geography lesson...that's purely canada taking over the world

8:46

[Comment From Imran Hussain] Paul said Gates is more whiny.. look at Ray!

8:46

Paul:  Maarten just said that Ozzie sounds like the Gates-type guy from the movie "Antitrust." he's right.

8:47

Long Zheng:  Earthquakes, power outages, could cause problems

8:47

LiveSide:  ack - Live Mesh and backbacon, eh?

8:47

Rafael Rivera:  That'd be Tim Robbins Paul...

8:47

Paul:  He's going to announce Microsoft Skynet. i can feel it.

8:47

Long Zheng:  Could have multiple datacenters. Not the best idea...complicated...

8:47

Long Zheng:  "Network latency issues"

8:47

Paul:  @Smash: LOL.

8:48

[Comment From Smash] It's self aware.

8:48

LiveSide:  network latency issues - this is a big deal, internally, too

8:48

Long Zheng:  

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8:48

Paul:  He should say "this cloud thing" a few more times.

8:48

Long Zheng:  Things are different...build the web than within walls

8:48

[Comment From Alpha] I has hands, I shows you them

8:48

Ed Bott:  Betting on the cloud, big time

8:48

[Comment From Mike Galos] Today they're announcing that Azure is taking over as Chief Software Architect

8:49

LiveSide:  we like "this cloud thing"

8:49

Long Zheng:  

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8:49

Paul:  @Mike, it will be a smooth transition...

8:49

Mary Jo Foley:  The difference between the old "cloud" and the new "cloud" is serving up inward facing apps vs. outward facing apps

8:49

Mary Jo Foley:  And that's why you need a platform that can scale

8:49

Long Zheng:  Web serving systems. "We've done them"

8:49

Rafael Rivera:  @Picture: Defcon game?!

8:49

LiveSide:  now we're attacking Canada, whew

8:49

Paul:  Blame Canada!

8:49

Long Zheng:  MSN, windows update, msdn, office online, Microsoft.com, Hotmail

8:50

Long Zheng:  

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8:50

Ed Bott:  Alaska looks at risk as well.

8:50

Rafael Rivera:  @Picture: Take note Hawaii doesn't exist.

8:50

LiveSide:  geopolitical and environmental issues etc

8:50

Long Zheng:  Antartica is not on the map. Polar bears get no service.

8:50

LiveSide:  MS betting on their own expertise

8:50

Paul:  They don't get AT&T EDGE either.

8:51

Rafael Rivera:  Wait, does EDGE work?

8:51

Long Zheng:  Wifi is still up. Big thumbs up to Microsoft. They've done it.

8:51

[Comment From Nidonocu] @Long: Polar bears live in the North Pole. Pengiuns live in the South. ;)

8:51

Paul:  20 minutes in ... and Ray hasn't said anything. he should write for the Engineering 7 blog.

8:51

LiveSide:  Long may take it down with his pic uploading, however

8:51

Ed Bott:  you've jinxed it

8:51

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] Note that Iceland doesn't count as a Business location

8:51

Mary Jo Foley:  Tiers: First tier is PC on your desk

8:52

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] is it just me, or is Ozzie's speach just one long sentence with no end...

8:52

Rafael Rivera:  Walter wins a prize.

8:52

Mary Jo Foley:  Second tier is enterprise tier. Enterprise datacenters

8:52

Paul:  He can have my "I'm a PC" t-shirt

8:52

[Comment From someone] How can they say so much without saying much meaningful?

8:52

Mary Jo Foley:  Third tier is external facing Web tier

8:52

[Comment From Andrew] Can somebody wake me when he has finished?

8:52

Long Zheng:  Infinite capacity? I think he's not in sync with Comcast

8:52

Paul:  dave cutler worked on cloud os .. good stuff

8:53

LiveSide:  new web tier

8:53

Paul:  new web tier ... platform ... used by Microsoft, developers ...

8:53

Long Zheng:  Amazon, EC2

8:53

LiveSide:  tip ofa hat to Bezos

8:53

Mary Jo Foley:  The platform for cloud computing is.... tada..... an Amazon EC2 competitor

8:53

Long Zheng:  Ray Ozzie tips hat to Amazon. Standing on shoulders (of giants).

8:53

[Comment From Jay C.] I'm waiting for Mr. Smithers to come out next.

8:54

Paul:  working for a few years for our own cloud computing platform ... bedrock foundation for all MS consumer and business offerings

8:54

Long Zheng:  Announcing...

8:54

Ed Bott:  A tip of the hat to Amazon, we'll all be standing on their shoulders - that's gonna hurt

8:54

Paul:  announce a new service in the cloud ... Windows Azure

8:54

Mary Jo Foley:  the new service in the cloud is windows azure

8:54

LiveSide:  Windows blue

8:54

Paul:  [clapping]

8:54

Ed Bott:  Polite applause

8:54

Paul:  Windows offering on the Web tier

8:54

Long Zheng:  Logo coming soon...

8:54

Rafael Rivera:  Windows Ashhzurreee

8:54

Mary Jo Foley:  This is the web tier offering. So Red Dog is now Blue?

8:54

Paul:  you might think of it as Windows in the cloud

8:54

Long Zheng:  Lowest level foundation...

8:54

LiveSide:  Windows logo get the live mesh blue glow

8:55

Todd Bishop:  Acknowledged Amazon was in cloud first

8:55

Paul:  high scale services, capabilties, scalable storage ... automated service management system

8:55

Long Zheng:  

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8:55

Mary Jo Foley:  Azure is definitely Red Dog

8:55

Paul:  a new service based operating environment

8:55

[Comment From Jcool] Love the hesitant applause.

8:55

LiveSide:  A new service based operating environment

8:55

[Comment From Nidonocu] Ooo.. pretty blue logo. Not that anyone will be about to pronounce Azure correctly.

8:55

Long Zheng:  Utilize existing skills. Developers will be happy.

8:55

Long Zheng:  

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8:56

Paul:  they always utilize existing tools. same old, same old

8:56

Paul:  This didn't help Windows mobile from what I can tell.

8:56

Ed Bott:  A fundamentally open environment

8:56

LiveSide:  you would expect an open environment from Windows, lol

8:56

Long Zheng:  "Windows" Fundamentally open environment. Tools, languages, frameworks, runtimes. First party, third party.

8:56

Long Zheng:  Intend to "foster and grow"

8:56

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Mike Galos: ah! So is how is Azure connected to Blue DB?

8:56

Long Zheng:  Windows, not walls.

8:56

LiveSide:  I dont' know about what the readers think, but this is fun

8:57

[Comment From ZippyV] Is Azure a product you can use in a company?

8:57

Todd Bishop:  Check the trademark filings ... Strata and Cloud must have been problematic legally.

8:57

LiveSide:  setting th stage for the next 50 years

8:57

Long Zheng:  World of parallel computing, horizontal scale.

8:57

Ed Bott:  Did he say 50 years? Whoa...

8:57

Mary Jo Foley:  Horizontal scale = Horizon

8:57

Long Zheng:  Azure comes to life at PDC.

8:57

Mary Jo Foley:  anyone remember that code name (Kip?)

8:57

Long Zheng:  Is not software, on own servers.

8:58

Long Zheng:  Microsoft datacenter hosted. First in US. Soon Worldwide.

8:58

Paul:  See it really is Skynet

8:58

Long Zheng:  CTP today.

8:58

Mary Jo Foley:  Azure running in MS datacenters first. On outside servers later

8:58

Long Zheng:  Fraction of features.

8:58

Mary Jo Foley:  CTP available today of Azure

8:58

Long Zheng:  "Betting on Azure"

8:58

[Comment From bingmobo] So wait, Azure is Strata?

8:58

Long Zheng:  Looks like it

8:58

Paul:  Microsoft is betting on Azure. Big headline there. "We use our own software."

8:58

[Comment From Tim Sneath [MSFT]] Quick pronunciation guide: say "as you're". The z is pronounced 'zh'...

8:58

Ed Bott:  Designed for iteration and rapid improvement

8:59

LiveSide:  built for iteration, rapid deployment, and feedback

8:59

Mary Jo Foley:  Azure is Red Dog. Red Dog is the low level OS

8:59

Rafael Rivera:  Windows Azure Issues and Constraints

8:59

[Comment From Guest] http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx is live

8:59

Mary Jo Foley:  It is a bit unclear what "Strata" was/is

8:59

Paul:  Strata is almost certainly the API/Framework

8:59

Rafael Rivera:  Windows Azure Tools for Microsoft Visual Studio Windows Azure SDK Azure Services Developer Portal

8:59

Long Zheng:  SQL server to the cloud

8:59

Rafael Rivera:  (links ripped from blog as it's hard to access now)

8:59

Long Zheng:  Every layer has a blue logo.

8:59

Paul:  SQL Services

8:59

Paul:  SQL Server in the cloud

9:00

[Comment From Imran Hussain] @ Rafael those links aren't working

9:00

Long Zheng:  

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9:00

Long Zheng:  Live Services subsystem, tomorrow.

9:00

Rafael Rivera:  Sorry guys, I don't think those download links are live yet.

9:00

Ed Bott:  Live services are bridge to user's PCs and devices

9:00

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] Note the new logo for .NET

9:00

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] I see live mesh is part of azure

9:00

Paul:  Azure Services Platform CTP released at PDC

9:00

LiveSide:  ssds + sql reporting + sql analysis = SQL services

9:00

Paul:  it is delivered in a little bit of mist, apparently.

9:01

Mary Jo Foley:  ok. So I think Azure Platform (Azure plus the next layer of services) = Strata

9:01

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] Nice new logo

9:01

Long Zheng:  Demos!

9:01

Ed Bott:  30 minutes of prologue

9:01

LiveSide:  Enough of this high level talk

9:01

[Comment From Harrison Hoffman] Nice job on the gangblogging guys. :)

9:01

LiveSide:  best Ray Ozzie quote evar

9:01

Paul:  This has been a lot of talk and very little info so far.

9:01

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] Please publish the links from the chat afterwards. Scrolling too fast.

9:02

Ed Bott:  There's that "betting on the platform" motif again

9:02

LiveSide:  Amitabh Srivistava

9:02

Rafael Rivera:  IMATUB

9:02

Ed Bott:  More enthusiastic applause when Ray leaves stag than when he arrived

9:02

Mary Jo Foley:  Srvistava is wearing red shoes!

9:02

Long Zheng:  Confirmed. "Project red dog"

9:02

Paul:  but he can at least pronounce Azure

9:02

Mary Jo Foley:  Red shoes = Red Dog

9:02

Rafael Rivera:  Click your heels three times... There's no place like the Cloud...

9:02

Paul:  kernels are cool demos!

9:03

LiveSide:  kernals don't demo well

9:03

Paul:  @Raf: LOL. Steve Jobs is the wicked witch of the west.

9:03

Long Zheng:  

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9:03

Rafael Rivera:  Azure - Scalable hosting environment for you to deploy your apps in the cloud.

9:03

Ed Bott:  @Paul: We're gonna drop a data center on him

9:04

Paul:  :)

9:04

Long Zheng:  

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9:04

LiveSide:  security is key and we provide multiple levels of security

9:04

LiveSide:  close up of the shoes, please, Long

9:04

Paul:  are those 93 Jordans?   :)

9:04

Ed Bott:  Skynet!

9:05

[Comment From Saruhan] More Shoe Shots!

9:05

[Comment From Paul (not Thurrott)] those shoes are out of control!

9:05

Mary Jo Foley:  Azure separates the app from the underlying OS. so both app and OS are managed separately

9:05

[Comment From Vik] Wow - those are some red shoes. Wonder if someone won a bet against him. They don't look as red in the video.

9:05

[Comment From ste hughes] they match his suit perfectly

9:05

Mary Jo Foley:  The fabric controller views everything as shared hardware resources

9:06

LiveSide:  heart of Azure is Fabric Controller

9:06

Rafael Rivera:  http://www.150.si.edu/150trav/remember/r1118a.jpg

9:06

Paul:  So now Building 37 is "the fabric district"

9:06

Paul:  @Raf. LOL!

9:06

LiveSide:  LOL Raf!!!

9:07

[Comment From Luke] He could do with some fabric controller on his shoes

9:07

Long Zheng:  

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9:07

Ed Bott:  They're gonna drop a datacenter on you, Raf

9:07

Paul:  New drinking game: Every time he says "interfaces," ....

9:07

Long Zheng:  This is all very abstract. I don't understand any of it.

9:07

Mary Jo Foley:  Think of it in layers, Long

9:07

Ed Bott:  Welcome to PDC

9:08

Mary Jo Foley:  bottom layer is Red Dog = Azure

9:08

Rafael Rivera:  @Long: Agreed. I'm having a hard time grasping. The speaker's accent doesn't help either.

9:08

Mary Jo Foley:  second layer is services: sql services, Live services (which i think is Live Mesh), .Net services (Zurich)

9:08

Mary Jo Foley:  top layer is MS-hosted services: sharepoint online, exchange online, etc.

9:08

Mary Jo Foley:  layers = strata

9:08

Long Zheng:  

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9:09

Rafael Rivera:  ... and Mary Jo just makes it 100x easier to understand.

9:09

Long Zheng:  Code

9:09

Rafael Rivera:  OOH CODE.

9:09

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] If they have done it right on this iteration, you graphically draw your application specs and deploy right to Azure.

9:09

Paul:  Good thing they carted this stuff out on Day 1. I was worried getting up early this morning would be a waste of time. Ahem.

9:09

[Comment From Jeremy] Thanks to Mary Jo for simplifying that

9:09

LiveSide:  Blobs!

9:10

Paul:  The first time I ever attended an event about BackOffice Server, I actually fell asleep during the Microsoft Mail portion. And I'm telling you. I will do it again.

9:10

[Comment From Imran Hussain] what does Windows Azure mean for an average user?

9:10

LiveSide:  LOL you should be in a Barca Lounger, Paul

9:10

Long Zheng:  @Imran: This is one of the problems of PDC. It's not exactly for consumers.

9:10

Paul:  Doesn't matter. I cover server too. this is just dry.

9:10

Long Zheng:  

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9:11

Long Zheng:  Managed and native code.

9:11

Ed Bott:  Consumers shouldn't be aware of Azure. It should just allow apps to work.

9:11

Long Zheng:  Hello world demo

9:11

Paul:  Red Shoes!!!

9:11

LiveSide:  Hello Azure

9:11

Rafael Rivera:  Ok, what's with the red shoes. Seriously?

9:11

Paul:  someone lost a bet

9:12

Ed Bott:  I feel like a genius. Hello world, indeed.

9:12

Ed Bott:  Note the Windows 7 common dialog he just used

9:12

Long Zheng:  

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9:12

Rafael Rivera:  Cloud templates in Visual Studio. Generates two projects -- One containing metadata and another just an ASP.net application.

9:12

Paul:  Ed: Hopefully Long got a shot of *that*

9:13

Rafael Rivera:  "Hello Cloud" application being written live.

9:13

Paul:  Where is Don Box when you need him?

9:13

Long Zheng:  

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9:13

LiveSide:  Nothing new in the Asp.net layer, using existing functionalty

9:13

Rafael Rivera:  To debug Cloud services, pretend it's a regular app.

9:13

Long Zheng:  

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9:13

Paul:  offline access pretty much kills the number one complaint ppl have about this stuff

9:14

LiveSide:  run the cloud on your laptop

9:14

Long Zheng:  

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9:14

Long Zheng:  How to deploy...

9:14

Rafael Rivera:  (We just received print out of Azure press release in the press room)

9:14

Mary Jo Foley:  You can test and debug locally. Then choose publish option. It packages your app. Takes your to Azure dev portal

9:14

LiveSide:  Azure Service Developer Portal

9:15

Ed Bott:  slick design for Azure Services Development Portal

9:15

Rafael Rivera:  DNS provided by ASDP

9:15

Paul:  What happens when the cloud blue screens? Who flips the switch?

9:16

Long Zheng:  http://hellocloud.cloudapp.net

9:16

Long Zheng:  

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9:16

Ed Bott:  Killer app

9:16

Tom W - Neowin.net:  oh hai

9:16

Long Zheng:  Bluehoo.com

9:16

Rafael Rivera:  Bluehoo? Yoohoo?

9:17

Tom W - Neowin.net:  mobile phones and PCs with BT as discovery mechanism. Nice :)

9:17

Rafael Rivera:  Bluehoo social platform in the Cloud

9:17

Long Zheng:  

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9:17

Paul:  This is *just* like MobileMe! Oh wait, no it isn't.

9:17

Long Zheng:  It looks like Neopets...

9:17

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Silverlight app showing same info as on your phone

9:17

[Comment From Saruhan] Paul, Any Service that works..isnot like MobileME

9:18

Paul:  Exactly

9:18

Long Zheng:  Everyone is laughing in the first row

9:18

Long Zheng:  

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9:18

Ed Bott:  Ditto back here

9:18

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Rafaels hoo will be pink then :)

9:18

Paul:  They are completely losing me here.

9:18

Long Zheng:  Mobile app talks via REST interface

9:18

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Is this the new facebook? Bouncing weird blogs that are blue or pink?

9:19

Tom W - Neowin.net:  blobs*

9:19

Long Zheng:  He danced...everyone claps, not the demo...

9:19

Paul:  Boo! Boo!!

9:19

Mary Jo Foley:  I think a demo of an enterprise cloud app might have been a little more interesting. Not everyone loves Web 2.0 ...

9:19

Rafael Rivera:  They put me dancing in the Bluehoo app!

9:19

Long Zheng:  "No need to learn any new programming languages"

9:19

LiveSide:  everything in C#

9:19

Long Zheng:  Demo proves...they can do this with existing skills

9:19

Ed Bott:  Ummmmmm... Not sure this is really a killer app.

9:19

Rafael Rivera:  They put me dancing in the Bluehoo app! [weird awkward pause]

9:19

Paul:  They can't write terrible apps in the languages they already know.

9:20

Paul:  rather, "can"

9:20

[Comment From Morgan] Raf can be the pink bug.

9:21

Long Zheng:  

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9:21

Ed Bott:  "I love editing XML"

9:21

Long Zheng:  

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9:21

Mary Jo Foley:  It's so easy, even a CEO can do it

9:21

Paul:  Let me spell this out as simply as possible. This is ridiculous.

9:22

[Comment From Mark] @paul explain your point of view please

9:22

Long Zheng:  Keep scaling up, and up, and up

9:22

Ed Bott:  What does it cost to scale up from 2 instances to 20 like he just did?

9:22

[Comment From Ryan] Agreed. BlueHoo seems like Comic Chat redone for web 2.0

9:22

Ed Bott:  Golf claps

9:22

[Comment From Pete] This gets my vote for worst PDC demo ever.

9:22

Long Zheng:  

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9:23

LiveSide:  good question, Ed, and how many CEO's today can hit that 2 to 20 button?

9:23

Ed Bott:  "Interfaces" ... Drink!

9:23

Paul:  Windows Azure - rollout in staged way

 

9:23

Paul:  to summarize .. you need red shoes.

 

9:23

Long Zheng:  

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9:24

Long Zheng:  

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9:24

Paul:  Bob Muglia. Or as I often call him, "Bog Mublia".

 

9:24

Mary Jo Foley:  Muglia: Back to reality

 

9:24

Ed Bott:  Muglia can haz red shooz?

 

9:25

Long Zheng:  

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9:25

LiveSide:  these guys have been taking training lessons on body language and movement

 

9:25

Ed Bott:  Wow, I want some of the coffee he was drinking before he came on  stage

 

9:26

Long Zheng:  

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9:26

Mary Jo Foley:  @Walter: I think Live Mesh plays via the box they showed called "Live Services." So I think Live Services is one of the building blocks that sits on top of Azure

 

9:26

LiveSide:  we can be snarky, but no one is doing this as an end to end system

 

9:26

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Bob is getting excited on stage, bopping up and down

 

9:26

[Comment From Walter Lounsbery] So does Live Mesh play with this other "new platform?"

 

9:27

Paul:  I do need red shoes, so....

 

9:27

Paul:  Bob M. is only a million times better than the last guy.

 

9:28

LiveSide:  we live in a world of federated identities

 

9:28

Todd Bishop:  Business details of this will be interesting. How long will it take for Microsoft to recoup the cost of building out those data centers?

 

9:28

Rafael Rivera:  Next WoW expansion on Azure platform?

 

9:28

Long Zheng:  

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9:28

Paul:  Todd: A related question: How much would it cost Microsoft if it ignored the cloud?

 

9:28

[Comment From Dion] long. PLEASE STOP WITH THE PIC

 

9:29

Long Zheng:  "Enable a lower cost solution for deployment of globally scaled applications"

 

9:29

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Azure better be good or it's another too little too late from MSFT

 

9:29

[Comment From Paul (not Thurrott)] no, keep the pics flowing! there's not enough!

 

9:29

[Comment From Sebastian] no don't stop the pics pls

 

9:29

[Comment From flyingk] Long - Don't stop posting those pics!

 

9:29

Mary Jo Foley:  .Net Services -- i think this is Zurich. for all you codename fanatics....

 

9:29

Ed Bott:  New .NET logo looks like a blue cobra

 

9:30

Long Zheng:  "Creating a pool of services" .NET Services

 

9:30

Tom W - Neowin.net:  The pics will not stop, Long is on a mission

 

9:30

Mary Jo Foley:  Built in service bus is part of this

 

9:30

Long Zheng:  

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9:30

LiveSide:  built in scale out system of services in a service bus

 

9:31

Mary Jo Foley:  So Zuich = service bus, access control service and workflow services (I think)

 

9:31

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/jimoneil/WindowsLiveWriter/StayingInformed_AFB5/NET_h_rgb_2.png

 

9:31

Mary Jo Foley:  Zurich = .Net services in the cloud

 

9:31

[Comment From asudduth] Will the LiveBlog be posted somewhere as an archive after the event?

 

9:32

Rafael Rivera:  You'll get replay archive after live blog is stopped.

 

9:32

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Yes it will be posted as an archive

 

9:32

Paul:  Yep

 

9:32

[Comment From Mark F] This control is horrible to use, please post the archive as an html document.

 

9:32

Long Zheng:  Will do. That is possible.

 

9:33

[Comment From Ghedin [WinAjuda.com]] What's "Geneva"?

 

9:33

Rafael Rivera:  Mary Jo?

 

9:33

Mary Jo Foley:  Identity services is another one of the layered services in tier 2 (for those trying to keep up at home). "Geneva" enables the federation between the on premise and cloud ID services

 

9:33

Rafael Rivera:  Nice.

 

9:33

Mary Jo Foley:  let me get you a link for Geneva

 

9:33

Tom W - Neowin.net:  I am sure many enterprises will not want to connect their AD externally

 

9:33

Long Zheng:  

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9:33

Mary Jo Foley:  Geneva: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1552

 

9:34

[Comment From guest] Will you guys go back and remove something embarrassing you've said?

 

9:34

Rafael Rivera:  No, maybe we'll prune out Paul's comments...

 

9:34

Long Zheng:  

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9:35

[Comment From GuyWithDogs] So where does Microsoft make money with this?

 

9:35

Long Zheng:  Tip to readers: If you don't want the auto scrolling, you can turn it off with the circle icon.

 

9:35

Mary Jo Foley:  They make money by charging you to host apps in their cloud (for one)

 

9:35

[Comment From Aaron] Thanks Long! :)

 

9:35

Mary Jo Foley:  just like amazon

 

9:35

[Comment From Saruhan] Subscriptions = $$$ also Hard to Pirate

 

9:35

Ed Bott:  Still no idea of how much this will cost

 

9:35

Paul:  So this is the Apple Apps Store. For enterprises.

 

9:36

Rafael Rivera:  "Call for a quote"

 

9:36

[Comment From Imran Hussain] Azure site says, "Students and hobbyists will be able to experiment with Microsoft technology without having to deploy anything locally." How'll they profit from this?

 

9:36

[Comment From Hüseyin] http://www.coveritlive.com/index2.php?option=com_altcaster&task=viewaltcast&altcast_code=126f1b93a7&width=1024&height=768

 

9:36

Paul:  Putting AD in the cloud? I assume that's a Bitlocker-protected RODC, right?   :)

 

9:36

Long Zheng:  Full view

 

9:37

Long Zheng:  

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9:37

[Comment From Chess] 20 years as a developer, most in Microsoft, and I'm not sure why but this just isn't exciting me. Silverlight was the last tech from MS excited me.

 

9:37

[Comment From Graham] AD in the cloud - Brilliant when can we get it - this will be massive for large enterprises with Millions of external customers

 

9:37

Paul:  It's hard to get excited by a low-level platform, I guess.

 

9:38

Ed Bott:  This identity stuff is the Holy Grail

 

9:38

Long Zheng:  "Not worrying about partners identities" I guess identities is the big sell here.

 

9:38

Ed Bott:  More XML!

 

9:39

Long Zheng:  Contoso is back. They're taking over the world.

 

9:39

Ed Bott:  I think Contoso is developing Skynet.

 

9:39

Long Zheng:  

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9:41

Long Zheng:  

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9:41

Long Zheng:  For a corporate recall website, this looks pretty cool. Don't think its practical though.

 

9:42

Long Zheng:  Thoughts on that demo?

 

9:42

Paul:  Just in case you guys are still awake, let's talk about System Center.

 

9:42

Rafael Rivera:  http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg

 

9:42

Paul:  @Raf: make it so, number one!

 

9:43

Ed Bott:  That demo was massively better than Bluehoo

 

9:43

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Average keynote, tomorrow will be more exciting

 

9:43

[Comment From Sam] Are the apps hosted on MS's servers?

 

9:43

Long Zheng:  Yes. Azure is all MS servers.

 

9:43

Ed Bott:  Windows 7 tomorrow.

 

9:44

Mary Jo Foley:  Windows 7 might be more demo friendly than this. But this is Microsoft's future, imho

 

9:44

Paul:  I hope there'a a bluehoo-windows 7 tie-in

 

9:44

Rafael Rivera:  If only AMD had a future... :(

 

9:44

Paul:  MJF: you're right of course

 

9:44

Paul:  And so are you Raf   :(

 

9:44

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] Is it a public beta? Or will someone need to leak it :P

 

9:45

LiveSide:  Agreed,MJ   This may sound dry but it's the future built from the ground up

 

9:45

Rafael Rivera:  "Azure development fabric in Visual Studio"

 

9:45

Ed Bott:  MJ is right. But they could have done much better demos.

 

9:46

Paul:  Yes.

 

9:46

Paul:  Nothing like a buzz-kill at 9 am on Day One.

 

9:46

Ed Bott:  Bluehoo may go down in history as EFD...

 

9:46

Ed Bott:  Epic Fail Demo

 

9:46

Paul:  Ed: yep

 

9:47

LiveSide:  lol I have an EFD story for you

 

9:47

Paul:  Kip: Does it involve passing around laptop lids?

 

9:47

[Comment From Matt] Nice dig on apple Paul!..lol

 

9:48

Paul:  In my defense they do make it easy

 

9:48

Long Zheng:  And I'm back. Laptop crashed.

 

9:49

Long Zheng:  Thanks to Bryant from AeroXP for helping me out.

 

9:49

the andyman:  @Long, wondering why there was a lack of photos ;)

 

9:49

LiveSide:  new platform of services using existing tools

 

9:49

Mary Jo Foley:  Now we're talking Oslo -- MS modeling strategy

 

9:49

Paul:  Long: And I thought they smelled bad on the outside!

 

9:49

Long Zheng:  

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9:50

Paul:  Oslo!

 

9:50

Paul:  Reminds Bob of 1992's NT announcement

 

9:50

Mary Jo Foley:  Yes. So Oslo is 3 things: The M language; the visual tool and the repository

 

9:50

Paul:  "no one will use it for ten years"

 

9:50

LiveSide:  potential for same kind of impact

 

9:50

Ed Bott:  I remember that 1992 PDC. I am, apparently,  old.

 

9:51

LiveSide:  yes but in ten yrs they will own

 

9:51

Paul:  David Thompson is the man

 

9:51

Paul:  Is it me or is this guy Magnum PI?

 

9:52

Long Zheng:  

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9:52

LiveSide:  running IT can be a disproportionate burden, if IT is not core to the business

 

9:53

[Comment From Skip] Paul: you already had Pervez Musharaff and Young John McCain [Muglia] on stage.

 

9:53

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Tom: Tomorrow is Live Mesh day. and also Win 7 day

 

9:53

Paul:  well it is halloween

 

9:53

LiveSide:  need for highest availability and highest security is more than enterprise can dliver

 

9:53

Mary Jo Foley:  Today is all the foundation stuff

 

9:53

Ed Bott:  Microsoft Online Services debuted last year, yes?

 

9:54

Paul:  MJF: This division makes sense. but they should have spelled that out in advance.

 

9:54

Mary Jo Foley:  Yes. Online Services debuted last year

 

9:54

Long Zheng:  

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9:54

Paul:  MOS debuted last year, but it's not broadly available even now.

 

9:54

Mary Jo Foley:  So Thompson just said ALL MS enterprise software is going to be available as an Online Service

 

9:54

Ed Bott:  All enterprise aoftware will be available as online service from today on

 

9:54

LiveSide:  "easier to buy" no one has talked about costs yet

 

9:54

Ed Bott:  Wow.

 

9:54

Mary Jo Foley:  So that means not just Exchange Online and SharePoint Online

 

9:54

Paul:  MSJ: As it should be. MOS is the future of Exchnge, etc.

 

9:55

Ed Bott:  And CRM

 

9:55

Mary Jo Foley:  But even System Center Online, Forefront Security Online, etc.

 

9:55

[Comment From Tony] MOS is good for Partners.

 

9:55

Ed Bott:  Windows 7 Enterprise?

 

9:55

[Comment From Manan] seems like MS has finally taken up the challenge by Google big time, nice!

 

9:55

Paul:  Dynamics CRM is already part of MOS I think

 

9:57

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Saruhan: "This is looking more like Services + Software and less Software + Services" -- interesting observation

 

9:57

[Comment From Adam] CRM Online: http://www.microsoft.com/dynamics/crm/countdown/

 

9:57

Paul:  Yes... I think teh future will lean more to the services side.

 

9:57

[Comment From Imran Hussain] Windows Strata = Windows Azure?? http://www.microsoft.com/azure/images/WindowsStrata.gif

 

9:57

LiveSide:  We talked more about red shoes than we're talking about MS Online Services ;)

 

9:57

Long Zheng:  Nice catch Imran. Strata was renamed to Azure.

 

9:58

[Comment From scott] S&P500 up 0.5% today ... MSFT down 3.5%

 

9:58

Mary Jo Foley:  Yes. Dynamics CRM Online is one of the online services, too

 

9:58

Long Zheng:  

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9:58

Long Zheng:  Really complicated graphcs, start.

 

9:58

[Comment From jim] How many people are watching this live blog?

 

9:58

Long Zheng:  About 2500 at this moment.

 

9:59

[Comment From Simon] Any mention of any other Dynamics ecosystem apps?

 

9:59

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Simon: Nothing explicitly. But given what Thompson just said, I am sure Dynamics ERP Online stuff is in the game plan

 

10:00

[Comment From Varuna Singh] I fear Microsoft will become like IBM was .. not consumer focused and just business and lost dev. focused.

 

10:00

Paul:  this is really just an extension of mix and matching MOS + local servers. which makes sense.

 

10:00

[Comment From Waethorn] Ok, great for enterprises....what about the SMB space? Hosted SBS/EBS in the future?

 

10:00

Paul:  SBS should be hosted right now.

 

10:01

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Varuna: Funny. I feel like the opposite. I feel like MS has become consumer-obsessed lately and kind of neglecting the enterprise.... Today's keynote is unusual

 

10:01

Paul:  Putting a complicated server in the typical small business no longer makes sense in many cases

 

10:01

Rafael Rivera:    Windows Services Connector being demoed. Requires DNS, display name, and certificate to verify ownership of domain.

 

10:01

LiveSide:  Right Paul,esp with vastly increasing pwr consumption costs and needs

 

10:01

Ed Bott:  Still no mention of prices/costs, not even a hint

 

10:01

Mary Jo Foley:  @ Senkwe: Yes, they have talked about SQL Server Data Services. SSDS is now renamed SQL Services

 

10:02

Rafael Rivera:  @Paul: Do you have that Server 2008 wallpaper in the demo?

 

10:02

Paul:  no.   not yet :)

 

10:02

Long Zheng:  

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10:02

[Comment From sparky] http://www.microsoft.com/Online/default.mspx pricing all seems < $15 a user

 

10:02

Mary Jo Foley:  SQL Services is part of tier 2 -- the Azure services layer of foundational services

 

10:02

Rafael Rivera:  @Picture: Windows Services Connector

 

10:02

Paul:  I have to say I'm kind of pumped about the enterprise services online stuff.

 

10:03

LiveSide:  Federated ID services that "just work"

 

10:03

[Comment From Daniel] This is all really confusing for a consumer, I'm sure though that developers are loving this

 

10:05

Paul:  This is all enterprise/developer stuff

 

10:05

LiveSide:  Daniel, yes it may be confusing, but the way this stuff works now is WAY more confusing - for moving to a services driven model, having one interface of understandable tools (for devs) is very big, imho

 

10:06

Mary Jo Foley:  Right, Paul. Tomorrow is more for consumers. Tomorrow is Windows 7 day. Today is NOT about Win 7 or Live Mesh (just to reiterate for folks who are asking when they are going to demo these things)

 

10:06

Long Zheng:  This is pretty cool. Office Word integration with CRM, then publish to Sharepoint. No server setup.

 

10:06

Rafael Rivera:  I like the developer stuff, after all I write code, but I really wish I had the bits in front of me. The download links are all down, rawr!

 

10:06

Paul:  HULK SMASH

 

10:06

Mary Jo Foley:  There were rumors we'd see a demo of Office 14 at PDC. Maybe that's tomorrow too...?

 

10:06

Ed Bott:  "Our new favorite color, azure blue."

 

10:07

[Comment From Graham] Paul - yes it's called the Professional developers confrence - the clue is in the name

 

10:07

Paul:  LOL. thanks.

 

10:07

Ed Bott:  @mj: I would bet on it - perhaps even in Sinofsky's session

 

10:07

Long Zheng:  

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10:07

Long Zheng:  Screenshot of the custom Office integration UI. Very slick.

 

10:08

Ed Bott:  That's a very nice SharePoint skin

 

10:08

Long Zheng:  

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10:08

Long Zheng:  Slick Silverlight business app online.

 

10:09

[Comment From Saruhan] Anyone else hate car dashboard style gauges?

 

10:09

LiveSide:  Back to Ray Ozzie

 

10:09

Ed Bott:  Winding down

 

10:09

Ed Bott:  Will Ray take Q&A?

 

10:09

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Nothing wow about that keynote

 

10:09

LiveSide:  Jeff Sandquist gave us t shirts that say "The Ozzman Cometh"

 

10:09

Long Zheng:  

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10:10

[Comment From Soulhuntre] 1 GB per user for $15 is simply not cost effective vs google apps

 

10:10

[Comment From Altrus Edwards] http://dev.live.com/quickapps/

 

10:10

Paul:  I have to say, I don't feel they did a very effective job of rolling this out. I will have to look this stuff over in the clear light of day, but right now... eh.

 

10:10

[Comment From Guest] http://wm.istreamplanet.com/customers/ms/750_ms_pdc_081027.asx these all links are not working

 

10:10

Long Zheng:  Maybe they're down

 

10:10

Rafael Rivera:  "Sit down and write some code" -- Yes, GIVE US A SDK!

 

10:10

Long Zheng:  Starting at noon today.

 

10:10

Tom W - Neowin.net:  There's nothing amazing about this, it's literally a platform. We knew this was coming but I personally expected something that would stand out

 

10:11

[Comment From Koshdukai] http://wm.istreamplanet.com/customers/ms/300_ms_pdc_081027.asx is working

 

10:11

Paul:  Tom: Yep

 

10:11

LiveSide:  Azure.com

 

10:11

Rafael Rivera:  @Tom: Like red shoes?

 

10:11

Paul:  Shoes should have been blue.

 

10:11

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Red shoes would be good

 

10:11

[Comment From Oleg] What exactly did you expect from a platform announcement?

 

10:11

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Blue to go with Azure, just make sure your pronounce it correctly

 

10:11

Mary Jo Foley:  During the CTP, it's free

 

10:11

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Oh yey, don't charge us for a beta, Thanks :)

 

10:11

Long Zheng:  Well in a way, the iPhone is a platform, and that announcement for developers was pretty interesting for end-users.

 

10:11

Paul:  "Azure." "God bless you!"

 

10:11

LiveSide:  intentially conservative in the way we roll out, ctp is free

 

10:12

Ed Bott:  "Functionality may very well change as a result of your feedback, so no charge during preview"

 

10:12

Paul:  Long: Exactly.

 

10:12

Mary Jo Foley:  No time frame for commercial release announced

 

10:12

Paul:  Does Microsoft usually charge for a CTP?

 

10:12

LiveSide:  golive license?

 

10:12

Long Zheng:  Pricing and models "will be competitive with the marketplace".

 

10:12

Mary Jo Foley:  Resource consumption + service level determines the pricing for Azure

 

10:12

[Comment From Paulo Razza] This was a great thing announced today, it kills me that you guys don't appreciate this cause your not technical enough.. PAINFUL to watch this livefeed! MarJo you were the only one really to give value to this stream of conversation

 

10:13

Long Zheng:  Thanks for the feedback Paulo. We'll take it into consideration.

 

10:13

Ed Bott:  Pricing will be competitive wih marketplace?

 

10:13

Rafael Rivera:  Ricavision charges for betas, right Ed?

 

10:13

Todd Bishop:  Ozzie: When it is released commercially, costs primarily derived from apps resource consumption and a specific service level we agree to provide. Competitive with marketplace and variety of service models.

 

10:13

Paul:  lol. yeah, that's why we don't appreciate this.

 

10:13

[Comment From Adrian] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/oslo/default.aspx

 

10:13

Ed Bott:  "Tomorrow we shift gears a bit"

 

10:13

Paul:  Infrastructure vs. Experiences.

 

10:14

Mary Jo Foley:  Tomorrow: Client OS and developing for Web and client

 

10:14

Paul:  they should have mixed it up more over the two days

 

10:14

Long Zheng:  Few surprises...

 

10:14

Mary Jo Foley:  Surprises tomorrow! Office 14 demo!

 

10:14

Ed Bott:  No questions

 

10:14

Paul:  The only surprise today was how conservative it all was.

 

10:14

Rafael Rivera:  [Fin.]

 

10:14

Tom W - Neowin.net:  That's all folks

 

10:14

Paul:  ... And the crowd goes ... well, they're just leaving.

 

10:14

Mary Jo Foley:  Thanks everyone for participating. Come back tomorrow for another 2 live blogs from us. Win 7 show and then Box/Anderson on Oslo

 

10:14

Tom W - Neowin.net:  One clap in the press room

 

10:14

LiveSide:  woohoo made it through the first keynote, good job Coveritlive and MS wifi

 

10:15

Ed Bott:  Actually I am impressed with the platform but not with the way they sold it today

 

10:15

Long Zheng:  

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10:15

Paul:  ed: exactly

 

10:15

Ed Bott:  Bye everyone

 

10:15

Long Zheng:  Goodbye all. Thanks for joining.

 

10:15

Paul:  Good night Detroit

 

10:15

Tom W - Neowin.net:  Bye everyone, same time same place tomorrow but a lot better keynote we expect

 

10:15

Long Zheng:  See you tomorrow at 8.30.

 

10:15

[Comment From mdsharpe] Thanks bloggers! Great work

 

10:15

[Comment From TekDragon] Thanks again. Great Job

 

10:15

[Comment From Sarah Perez] please integrate more user comments next time - the ones you picked had great value to me :)

 

10:16

[Comment From Martijn Brant] Great .. now start reading email

 

10:16

[Comment From Saruhan] +1 on comments

 

10:16

[Comment From Jay] zzzz... wha? is it over? ;-)

10:16

[Comment From nathan] i wish pictures could be viewed seperate from the blog feed...