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2011 MacBook Air shipping with (fast) Samsung and (slow) Toshiba SSDs

By | July 26, 2011, 9:45am PDT

Summary: In the past Apple used two different OEMs for the SSDs in its MacBook Air SSDs (Samsung and Toshiba), with Samsung benchmarking faster. The same is true for the new MacBook Airs.

Several months ago, MacRumors noticed that Apple was using two different suppliers for the Solid State Drives (SSDs) in its MacBook Air models — Samsung and Toshiba. At the time Samsung SSDs benchmarked significantly faster (both in read and write speeds) than the Toshiba SSDs.

Users reported receiving both Samsung and the Toshiba SSDs in the 2G MacBook Airs making it a seemingly random decision, most likely based on inventory available at time of manufacture.

History has a way of repeating itself and the same situation was discovered by TLDToday in Apple’s just-released MacBook Air (Mid 2011). Apple’s apparently using both Samsung and Toshiba SSDs in the new Airs and the Sammy modules have been benchmarking significantly faster than the lowly Toshiba sticks.

Engadget notes:

The 128GB Samsung SSD in his 11-inch Air was able to achieve 246 MB/s write and 264 MB/s read speeds. When he switched to the 13-inch model, however, speeds dropped to 156 MB/s and 208 MB/s, respectively, using that notebook’s 128GB Toshiba SSD.

Sigh.

You can check which SSD module you have by going to About this Mac > More info… > System Report… (the new name for System Profiler) and clicking on Hardware > Serial-ATA in the left pane. If the enter for APPLE SSD is followed by SM, you have the Samsung, if it’s followed by TS you have the Toshiba module.

I checked my new MBA13/CTO i7 and (luckily) got the faster Samsung module as denoted by “SM256C” in my System Report.

If you have a new, third-generation MacBook Air, please check your SSD and note it in the TalkBack below. Please also note your configuration, specifically if you have an 11, or 13-inch model and your RAM, SSD configuration. If you ordered a CTO model with the Core i7 please note that as well.

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

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RE: 2011 MacBook Air shipping with (fast) Samsung and (slow) Toshiba SSDs
riazdc 24th Dec
There is a solution, if you pick up the unit from an Apple Store.

While none of the staff at the Apple store I visited knew about this issue with different SSDs, they did agree to have a Genius Bar staff open the unit I purchased and then exchange several times if necessary it if it was a Toshiba. Fortunately, one of the staff found a way to look up in some database the unit's configuration using the serial number and found out that the unit was a Samsung.
Otherwise it's all kind of academic.
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Gis Bun Updated - 27th Jul
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Well that was certainly unhelpful
use_what_works_4_U Updated - 27th Jul
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@Gis Bun

Also 'About this mac' -> Hardware -> Serial-ATA
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@Gis Bun There is a little program in your utilities folder called "system profiler" just hit it.
@Gis Bun I cannot believe that Apple would this. This is just outright deceptive. They should at least offer a CTO option for the Samsung. Of course you would pay a "Sa m sung" tax, kinda like paying more for the Black MacBook ins tead of the White.
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Gis Bun Updated - 27th Jul
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Nothing to do with being a snob
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That seems pretty crapy to me. I am sure all the performance spec's are based on the Samy SSD. If you got one with the Toshiba SSD return it and demand a new one with the fast one in it.
@MarkWB
I have mine with Toshiba but I have it replaced.
@MarkWB

I actually tried this by going to both the Apple Store on 5th Avenue, NY and Calling Apple Care. When I called Apple care I was transferred up to Customer Relations, supposedly the highest level department that a customer can speak with (or so I was told by Cust. Relations).
Anyway, in the end I was told in a very polite way "Too bad".
11" i7 1.8GHz, 256 SSD, 4GB RAM special order came with the SM256C.
13" i5 1.7GHz, 28 SSD, 4GB RAM came with the SM128C.
Is it possible to identify whether the machine has a samsung ssd Before purchase? For example, can the serial number be used as a indicator some how?
@RbnMan
Unfortunately, there's no way to tell which SSD you'll get before you buy one. Unless you get hands-on with it, obviously. I believe that you'd be able to return it if you weren't happy with it, but it's unclear how Apple could/would apply its restocking fee.
Has anyone tried returning one of the new Airs?
- Jason
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Trudeaucj 27th Jul
@Jason D. O'Grady
When buying mine yesterday, the representative had no problem opening one to see if it was the faster/slower SSD and returning it without the restocking fee until we found the one with the faster SSD.
There is a solution, if you pick up the unit from an Apple Store.

While none of the staff at the Apple store I visited knew about this issue with different SSDs, they did agree to have a Genius Bar staff open the unit I purchased and then exchange several times if necessary it if it was a Toshiba. Fortunately, one of the staff found a way to look up in some database the unit's configuration using the serial number and found out that the unit was a Samsung.
Mine has the Samsung as well, are you sure this is really an issue? I would say maybe it is only the low end that has this Toshiba Drive.
I have the 11 inch Macbook Air with the fastest I7 processor and 4 gig ram. I have the 250 SSD (Toshiba)
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Looks to me like it's random
gavin142 27th Jul
and depends primarily on what's in the bucket when the chassis slides by on the conveyor.
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Phew, have a SM256
vandenbond 27th Jul
just got a 13 in MBA i7 and it has the SM256C. You had me nervous there for a sec
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use_what_works_4_U 27th Jul
I don't know, from looking at the numbers, what these transfer rates signify in a practical sense. Many of the functions of modern computers happen so quickly that we don't "see" them happening at all. Assuming you're not trying to edit LOTR, how much of an impact on the "average user" will the slower drive actually have?
"...if it?s followed by TS you have the Toshiba module."

That's funny.
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MichaelWells 27th Jul
I cannot believe that Apple would this. This is just outright deceptive. They should at least offer a CTO option for the Samsung. Of course you would pay a "Samsung" tax, kinda like paying more for the Black MacBook instead of the White.
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use_what_works_4_U 28th Jul
@MichaelWells
Apple sources parts from multiple vendors just as every other OEM does. I don't see anywhere on Apple's website where they make any specific claims about read/write times, only capacity. If you are buying on something other than capacity, then how are you assessing the (nonexistent AFAIK) claims?

In real world useage I wonder if anyone would even notice the difference. I suspect they wouldn't.
@macadam

I am speculating and do not know; but I would be willing to bet that Apple puts the faster ones out on display in their retail stores. So when a customer comes in and buys one and then may or may not get the slower drive that is pretty deceptive. I am no expert on SSDs, but I CTO all of my Macs with 7200RPM HDs, and the difference is huge. I do not understand why the principles of read and write speeds would not apply to SSDs as well. While Apple does not advertise specific speeds, it does advertise how fast their SSDs are http://www.apple.com/macbookair/performance.html. I love my Macs, but this is deceptive, not illegal, but deceptive by any definition.
@MichaelWells
I respect your opinion that this is deceptive. I disagree. I would like to make a few points:

1) The claim on your linked page is "Up to 2x faster". That is not a quantitative claim, it is a qualitative one. The footnote on that claim describes what systems were used for this qualitative comparison. Nowhere do they quote specific transfer rates. My supposition is that 156MB/s (the lowest number from Jason's article) is probably close to twice the speed of the 5400 RPM HDD from the previous MacBook Air.

2)A difference of (at most) 90MB/s between the 2 units is not something that most of us are ever going to notice. The Engadget article linked to in Jason's piece concluded that Overall, you're not likely to notice a significant difference during normal usage, though it's certainly an interesting find, nonetheless.

3) I worked for several years in an Apple Store. When new product comes in it is inventoried and put on a shelf. The demo units are pulled from that shelved stock and immediately expensed out. There is no way for anyone to know the difference in components from the packaging and Apple simply will not open multiple boxes for display items. What you see on the floor is a random sampling of the hardware that arrives the first day. The only "special" treatment it gets is a check out and imaging by the Genius Team (that's what I did at Apple FWIW).

I am not defending Apple, and if you think it's deceptive then you are entitled to that opinion. I don't see it, though. There are no minimum standards stated, there is no qualitative measure claimed. I asked earlier if anyone with more knowledge than I could say if these differences would even be noticeable, no one has responded. I don't think 90 MB/s difference is going to make a significant delay to anyones day. If 156MB/s allows for roughly 2 times faster data access than a 5400rpm HDD, then the claim is perfectly true. Based on the little experience I have with older SSDs, I think that is reasonable.
Mine just arrived (13 inch with I7, 4 gig ram, and 256 SM drive) with a Samsung. So far, I love it.
Macbook Air 11" 4GB, Apple SSD SM128C.
11" 4GB, i7, SM256C - purchased @ Apple Store in BC, Canada.
I bought the 13" 4GB i7 1.8ghz model at a local Apple retail store. Unfortunately I got the Toshiba 256GB SSD. I can confirm the slower benchmark numbers of 160mb/s writes and 205 reads.

The store allowed me one exchange upon which I got another Toshiba. They told me to call AppleCare which I did. AppleCare tried to escalate it up the chain but got nowhere. It isn't an issue for Apple since they claim no performance numbers.

At this point the only concession I've gotten is the store will take the computer back as a return but no more exchanges.

So it is pot luck on what you get--good luck to those of you considering buying a new MacBook Air.
@ghigh
Perhaps you can answer the question I asked earlier. Is 160MB/s "noticeably slow"? I can't imagine that it makes that much of a difference in actual usage but I'd love to find out one way or another.
13" i5 1.7GHz, 4GB RAM, 128 SSD (SM128C)
Ordered from Apple online store July 25, arrived July 28. Shipped direct from Shanghai
Hm...if Sumsung SSD has more advantages so the MacBook Air with Toshiba SSD might cost less. I do not use MacBook but own the Sony Vaio where SSD by Sumsung works perfectly.
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I just purchased from Amazon and received a Toshiba SSD. My question is "Is it possible to exchange for a new one at my local Apple Store or would I be required to do that with Amazon?".
1" i7 1.8GHz, 256 SSD, 4GB RAM came with the APPLE SSD TS256C

And yes, I will probably take it back over and over till I find one with samsung. They tell me 14 days no restocking fee.
Macbook air is shipped really fast. I got within 48 hrs which was unbelievable.
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