Another Mac clone: say hello to PearC

Another Mac clone: say hello to PearC

Summary: Not intimidated by Apple's legal action against Psystar, a German company called PearC is offering "Der PC mit Mac OS X" ("the PC with Mac OS X") in several configurations, including some with Blu-ray drives.In an interview with Der Spiegel, PearC's parent Hypermeganet noted that differences in how German law deals with EULAs may mean that PearC's products are legal in Germany.

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PearC ProfessionalNot intimidated by Apple's legal action against Psystar, a German company called PearC is offering "Der PC mit Mac OS X" ("the PC with Mac OS X") in several configurations, including some with Blu-ray drives.

In an interview with Der Spiegel, PearC's parent Hypermeganet noted that differences in how German law deals with EULAs may mean that PearC's products are legal in Germany.

Starting at €499 the PearC comes with a dual-core processor, up to 750GB of hard drive space, and either a GeForce 7200GS or a GeForce 8400GS. For €799 you can order a Core 2 Quad processor, Blu-ray burner, and a GeForce 8400GS, 9800GT, or 9800GTX. For €1,499 the Professional model (pictured) ships with a Core i7 processor, 1TB of storage and up to 12GB of RAM.

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Topics: Apple, Hardware, Mobility, Operating Systems, Processors, Software

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  • This is good for consumers.

    Companies, such as Apple, try to use legal machinations to dictate the shape of the market. People should have the freedom to combine different products and create new ones.
    hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812
    • Really?

      "People should have the freedom to combine different products and create new ones."

      Well, I can't wait to play Wii, PS3, and XBox games on my PC legally. Maybe PearPC help me out with that, too? That way I wouldn't have to pay for their ridiculously expensive hardware to run their games.

      Customers would surely benefit from this too wouldn't they?
      Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493
      • Absolutely!

        There were companies that would sell Xbox mod chips to run non-microsoft approved software which microsoft did not like since they were selling Xbox-es at a loss.

        When you come up with a solution to play games from one console on another, and try to sell it in the marketplace, I will support you 100%
        hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812
      • Terrible, terrible, terrible argument

        [i]Well, I can't wait to play Wii, PS3, and XBox games on my PC legally.[/i]

        With the exception of Nintendo, I'm sure that Sony and Microsoft would [b]love[/b] it if you could play their games on your PC. They each take a loss on the hardware and make it up with game sales.

        That being said, there is a [b]huge[/b] difference between artificially restricting consumer choice and having consumer choice restricted due to technical limitations. XBox and PS3 both use hardware that is simply not compatible with x86. Apple, on the other hand, [b]uses 100% generic, compatible PC bits[/b]. The [b]only[/b] thing that is stopping you from installing OS X on a regular PC is an artificially constraining licensing agreement and TPM DRM chip (which has been proven to be completely ineffective, although you paid for it :) ). What is stopping you from playing an XBox game on your PC isn't a licensing agreement, it is a fundamental architectural incompatibility. Like I said, I'm sure Sony and Microsoft would [b]love[/b] to let you play their games on your PC since they lose money on the hardware, make money on the games.

        And as for your "ridiculously expensive" argument, I say what? For the hardware that you get in a modern console, you are paying a [b]fraction[/b] of what it would cost you in a PC. Like I said, the cost of the hardware is subsidized by the sales of games.
        NonZealot
        • So What?!

          Don't be stupid. Sony and Microsoft [i]want[/i] you to buy their particular device [b][i]make[/i][/b] it profitable. Apple make and sell hardware devices. They write an OS for those hardware devices. It's entirely up them how they license that hardware/software. [b]Your[/b] argument is weak. Don't forget that Apple have Written for 3 different architectures. So if Apple still used PowerPC or 6880x0 your argument falls down. look, if you dislike Apple so much, stop reading about them! At least have the decency to think through what you are saying.

          SimonUK
          • You don't get it.

            Game consoles are sold below the price, so Microsoft loses money for every Xbox sold.

            But regardless of that, you are trying to make a wrong into the right by putting it into a totally different framework. PC framework is one where you can buy hardware and software from different manufacturers and combine them. Apple is trying to restrict you to another framework where all your needs depend on them.
            hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812
          • No, you don't get it

            I want to buy a complete computer device, not a hobby kit.

            I'm willing and able to pay extra to get Apple's 'framework' because I
            want that kind of managed experience. I want software and hardware
            that are tailored to work together and I want just one company taking
            responsibility for that. If something breaks, I don't want to watch a
            dozen parts and software suppliers all pointing fingers at one another.
            jaypeg
          • So don't buy the PearPC?

            [i]If something breaks, I don't want to watch a
            dozen parts and software suppliers all pointing fingers at one another.[/i]

            The more you Apple apologists write, the more you ruin your argument that OS X must not be allowed on anything but Apple hardware. If you are right and OS X + Apple hardware >>> OS X + generic PC hardware then Apple has nothing to worry about from the clones. Just because someone else has the option to pay $129 for OS X to install it on their PC (and risk the apocalypse because their hardware manufacturer and software manufacturer don't match) in no way diminishes the heavenly experience you bathe yourself in when you fork over your $2,000 for $1,000 worth of PC bits.
            NonZealot
          • You are right NonZ it is HEAVENLY....

            And what is the Apple apologist thing you keep babbling about!?!
            Nobody is apologizing for Apple for Apple has not done anything
            wrong. At best we are trying too educate the unwashed ie you.

            The success of Apple is its reputation one of the best in the industry.
            Time and time again if asked Apple customers rate their satisfaction
            way higher than others in the field. The loyal Apple customer is the
            envy of the industry heck its the envy of every industry across the
            board. CEO's would litteraly kill to have customers as satisfied and
            loyal as Apple's. However that loyalty comes at a hefty price for we
            are a demanding lot and that is why we don't want to see Apple and
            its products ruined by the tire kickers out there.

            If OSX gets exposed to the great unwashed who do not understand
            how Apple does business and sees OSX running terribly on a machine
            not meant to run it then that effects Apple. People who do not
            understand the clone itself is NOT an Apple product and OSX was not
            meant to be installed on it would naturally tend to blame Apple at
            least in part for what they consider to be failings that are in fact not
            Apple's and then world of mouth spreads from one who does not know
            better to another and so forth and so on.

            So in effect Apple suffers from the loss of a potential hardware sale
            that very much goes towards continued research and development of
            OSX but it also suffers because people who don't take the time to
            understand or for some reason can not understand that Apple is not a
            MS and has no interest in being a jack of all trades master of none.
            Will come to fault Apple for failings that are not Apple's to begin with.
            Further damaging Apple.

            As you have so often proven in the past some concepts are to difficult
            to understand for some and the truth is often missed despite being in
            front of one's face.

            Pagan jim
            James Quinn
          • This is why apple users sometimes annoy me

            MS is crap and all the rest of it, a few months ago i explained why MS has problems with its OS, incompatible hardware and i also explained why Apple doesn't have similar problems, screened hardware.

            The first argument that comes out of most Mac users mouth is MS is unstable and OSX is stable and secure. Even after explaining that theres not to much wrong with MS it was the same old argument,Windows is unstable, now your using the same arguments MS users have pointed out to defend Apple.

            So are you actually admiting there is nothing to much wrong with Windows other then the fact that they don't screen hardware to ensure system compatibility and stability and if Apple was to follow along the same lines that it would also suffer the same problems.....

            I never thought i'd see the day
            mrjoctave@...
          • @james quinn

            You stated above-

            [i]Apple is not a MS and has no interest in being a jack of all trades master of none[/i]

            So how exactly do you reconcile that statement with what you said below -

            [i]Apple is not about the pieces.... its about the whole[/i]

            Doesn't creating the 'whole' require that Apple become a jack of all trades?
            eMJayy
          • @eMJayy: Working in perfect harmony

            A jack of all trades within a strictly controlled amount of hardware
            working perfectly with Mac OS X.

            It's vertical integration, a complete experience.
            It actually works right out of the box, you don't need to tinker with it,
            and it will likely work flawlessly for many many years.
            Mikael_z
          • hate to break it to you...

            [i] I want software and hardware
            that are tailored to work together and I want
            just one company taking
            responsibility for that. [/i]

            Sorry, that ended when Apple climbed into bed
            with the x86 chaps.
            JetJaguar
          • actually, your wrong...

            actually you are wrong... yes they take a loss selling the hardware, but
            they don't do that just so they can make a profit selling the game... if
            that was the case they would just sell the games to run an different
            hardware. They want to sell you the hardware too, they want you to buy
            a piece of hardware that locks you into it only being able to play its
            games, so any game you want and buy the money is going to them, and
            they don't have to compete over games. They do not want you to be able
            to play without their hardware, because its less likely they'll sell as many
            games... the games would have to be able to compete better.
            doh123
          • Perhaps you are right, but...

            ... you have perfectly illustrated that how companies make money by restricting your freedom. Is that what you want?
            hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812
      • Try an emulator

        Theres plenty of them around and a few of them work pretty good not to sure about the Wii yet but there certainly are a few PS3 and Xbox emulators.
        mrjoctave@...
    • Apple is not about the pieces.... its about the whole.

      That is the essence of Apple products. Now how good for consumers
      will this kind of leaching be if Apple goes away? Who will spend the
      money to come up with devices like those Apple creates? Will PearC?
      How much research and development does a leach do? NONE...Really?
      Oh yeah they are but a leach and can't do much without a host to
      drain.

      Tell me who will keep developing OSX? Why would anyone do
      anything if it can be leached off of? The very first dollar you make will
      give the leaches the go ahead to attack and begin the draining. Where
      is the incentive to work or create anything then?

      Pagan jim
      James Quinn
      • How is buying Apple OS, leaching?

        Companies like Paystar are buying OS X from apple and installing it on a non-mac. The issue is of controll over your own property that you paid for. I think that once Apple takes your money, it has no say in how you use the product you bought (other than copyright, trademark and patent issues which don't apply in this case).
        hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812
        • It is selling a Mac without having to do the work

          to create said. Making money for no work on its part. Pretty leach like to
          me. Draining energy from the host who did all the work. Now all Apple
          has to do is find another way to distribute its future OS's to its legitimate
          customers and also build in counters when installing to none Apple
          products. I hope Apple does just that.

          Pagan jim
          James Quinn
          • Not selling a Mac, but a PC running OS X...

            ...I think everyone involved understands that.

            Apple developed OS X, priced it and sold it. Nobody is stealing anything from Apple. It was a legitimate transaction.
            hamobu-22333136139518773481685514128812