Apple to Cisco: Suit is "silly"

Apple to Cisco: Suit is "silly"

Summary: The latest round in the Apple v. Cisco slap fest is that Apple spokesman Steve Dowling was quoted as saying the Cisco lawsuit is "silly" noting that several companies are already using the term "iPhone" for VoIP handsets. Dowling went on to callCisco's iPhone trademark "tenuous at best," according to the Wall Street Journal.

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The latest round in the Apple v. Cisco slap fest is that Apple spokesman Steve Dowling was quoted as saying the Cisco lawsuit is "silly" noting that several companies are already using the term "iPhone" for VoIP handsets. Dowling went on to call Cisco's iPhone trademark "tenuous at best," according to the Wall Street Journal.

Although the distinction is pretty clear: Apple's iPhone is a GSM-based, mobile phone, whereas the Cisco/Linksys iPhone is a VOIP phone that only works when connected to a permanent Internet connection. But will the courts see it that way? Somehow, I don't think so, and judging by your votes, neither do you.

Will the courts see it that way? I guess we'll have to see. It's a real bummer that just when the dark cloud from the stock option backdating scandal begins to fade from our memory, Apple does something as stupid as this. 

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  • Ciscos' wrong

    Obviously you don't understand US trademarks. If you don't use it, you loose it! Cisco's lame attempt to use it right before the announcement of Apple's iPhone, when they knew Apple desires/intentions, is just lame and the courts will recognize that. Besides, CISCO is inconsistent. There are several products called iPhone and they haven't chosen to enforce it till Apple wants to use it. Seems pretty suspicious to me.
    ward7
    • I hate to be the one to break it to you - Cisco uses the iPhone trademark

      http://www.linksys.com/iphone

      Cisco markets several VOIP phones under the iPhone name, using their Linksys brand.

      Also, Apple's use of the trademark is far more noticeable than other companies (I've never heard of the others), and depending on the other products, their use of the name might be legal or of no consequence to Cisco.

      However, you are correct when you say that if you don't use something, you loose it. More often, you lose it, which is more grammatically correct. (To loose [rhymes with 'goose'] something is to intentionally let it go. To lose [rhymes with 'snooze'] something is to find yourself without it, unintentionally.)
      Zeppo9191
      • read it again with the grammer correction

        Thanks for the correction. Your much better than my spell-checker.
        ward7
    • How are they not using it?

      There have been iPhone products on the market since 1996 and Cisco just launched a new line of products using the name in early December. I fail to see who they chose to sue over a copyright infringement matters at all. Are you SURE the other companies that use the iPhone name don't have
      DCMann
      • iphone.com

        Just out of odd curiosity I went to www.iphone.com and there is an internet phone company selling products and services. Do they have a "license" to use it from CISCO? If CISCO patented iphone first woul dit not have made sense to register the name or was this established before 2001?

        Do they pay CISCO for the iPhone name? Now that it is a hot item, will CISCO and Apple be tryng to muscle the iphone.comm domain from www.iphone.com ?

        Alan
        scholla
        • domain / trademark scoop

          iPhone.com Creation Date: 24-aug-1995
          http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=iphone&tld=com

          Different owners of iPhone trademarks, from USPTO:
          Teledex (2005), SFMOBILE, INC CORPORATION CALIFORNIA (2003), Ocean Telecom Services (2006), Lahoti, Ravi K. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES (2000), Infogear (1996). There was also a Cidco iPhone (1997).

          More interestingly, an iPhone logo was filed for trademark in 1994, and abandoned in 1998, by a person named Stephen J. Page
          http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=ndvva7.2.9

          I'm quite confused as to how all these have trademarks on iPhone...
          caseypenk
      • Trademark protection

        One of the first rules to follow in protecting a trademark is to ACTIVELY and VIGOROUSLY defend it from ALL infringement, large or small. If there indeed are other companies out there not affiliated with Cisco using the iPhone name freely without challenge, then Cisco has already failed that test.
        RadioSilenze
  • Apple is getting what it deserves ..

    In the past, Apple's legal department seemed to be going after anyone who dared to use "pod" in a product name, even if the product was unrelated to music or audio of any sort. Example: a small manufacturer of a device that allows arcade owners to electronically download readings from their machines. I, for one, am glad to see that there's a company with the guts to stand up to a bully.
    bkshort9
    • Apple is getting overconfident and arrogant

      On top of what I said in my subject line, they seem to be acting like Microsoft and Sony.
      glocks out
    • Apple is indeed getting what it deserves...

      ...tons and tons of publicity. This lawsuit, and the 40,000 articles it's generated on ZDNet alone, have added to the avalanche of publicity for Apple and their Jesus Phone. Does anyone still remember that CES is happening, or has that completely dropped off the radar?
      tic swayback
  • Free publicity..

    If anyone out there missed the release of the iPhone, they certainly have not now
    with all the apple vs cisco coverage. This is fantastic PR, probably tripling or
    quadrupling their initial iPhone coverage.

    If the courts force apple to change the name before the launch and manufacture of
    the iPhone, then apple have lost relatively little but gained much exposure.
    mlespierre
  • Jason to world: I'm an idiot

    Another insightful post.
    berniemac_z
    • JASONTO THE WORLD - I'M THE ZDNET FORUM MIND READER

      And i'm supposed to know all your thought's but i don't know your's.
      johnpall9