Leak: the new Mac mini?

Leak: the new Mac mini?

Summary: The picture above was posted to Macenstein purporting to be the new Mac mini. My only question: why does it have a lid?

TOPICS: Apple, Hardware

The picture above was posted to Macenstein purporting to be the new Mac mini. My only question: why does it have a lid?

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Topics: Apple, Hardware

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  • never seen the attraction of cheap macs

    why would you? It's not like you are going to save space with a small case when the alternative is no case at all on an iMac. Price? Are Mac users really all that price conscious?
    • Mac OS

      They're a cheap and easy way for me to run my Adobe software for Mac, to use iChat for video conferencing and desktop sharing with other Mac users, and to test Web sites on Mac browsers. I use the monitor, keyboard, and mouse that are usually connected to my Windows desktop. When I'm not using Mac OS, I can just put the mini in a drawer.
      • Don't get me wrong...

        But can't you do most of that on the Windows machine?

        "They're a cheap and easy way for me to run my Adobe software for Mac"

        As far as I know, all Adobe programs run on Windows.

        "to use iChat for video conferencing"

        There are vid conferencing solutions for Windows... but if you have to use that one I could see a point there.

        "and desktop sharing with other Mac users"

        I give you that one... but wouldn't it be nice if Windows and Mac would place nice together.

        "and to test Web sites on Mac browsers."

        But you can run Safari on Windows. And if Safari runs differently on Win then Mac then that would be anti-trust on Apple's part. Besides all that, web sites are platform independent, as they run in the browser and not on the machine.

        "I use the monitor, keyboard, and mouse that are usually connected to my Windows desktop. When I'm not using Mac OS, I can just put the mini in a drawer."

        Seems to me $600 to $700 is a bit much to pay for that little bit of use, when at least half can be done on the Win machine.

        However that is your choice and I'm in no way suggesting one is better then the other.
        • Yes there are Adobe products for the PC

          And in my company there are those who would LOVE to go
          PC only. However and I'm not desktop publisher mind you
          we find our clients demand Mac formated and created
          product and our people here as a rule (there are
          exceptions) HATE using a PC for graphics production.
          Why? Like I said I don't do graphics work but they seem to
          feel that the Mac is the far better machine and they use
          both. Even the ones who hate using the PC still have what
          we refer to as PC books so they use both daily.

          The same reason could be for his use of iChat maybe he
          finds using it on a PC not as well productive or enjoyable.
          Again just a guess

          Pagan jim
          James Quinn
          • Are the file formats different?

            JPG, GIF, PNG... Explain how they are different.
          • Again not a graphics guy per se....

            However we mix fonts and graphics in out books. For
            some reason the layouts do not match. Can't explain any
            more than that. But also that is just the client end of the

            We can provide just graphics but our Quark and or CS
            books not so much. As for plain graphics work jpeg and
            such our people prefer to crank that out on the Mac (again
            for the very most part) they claim they are more productive
            and give arguments and demonstrations of how the
            various systems work that loose me because of my
            extreme lack of interest in the field as a rule.

            Pagan jim
            James Quinn
          • No difference in those...

            But then, nobody uses those for graphics production, and the quality they provide is less than satisfactory. When it comes to using EPS and such, the machine they were created on can be an issue. As EPS files have everything imbedded in the file, so fonts and such can be an issue. There are also separate TIFF formats for Mac and PC. Either can be opened fine on the other using the proper software, however the colors will not turn out to be the same.
          • No.

            However, the color management is different. Windows has always had a problem figuring out that ICC color profiles (necessary for doing high-end professional graphics work for printing press) are shared system resources. So, on our Windows machines, running ICC-aware pro graphics programs from two different vendors (say, CorelDraw and Photoshop) would often result in a file lock error when you tried to switch profiles in one app. Not fatal, but enough of a nuisance that it impacted productivity. Fighting over ICC profiles doesn't happen on a Mac (or on Linux), because both platforms have a universally vendor-agreed-upon color management engine (Kodak ColorSync for Mac, LCMS for Linux) and they got the file permissions right.

            Also, Microsoft's low-level Postscript drivers are generally junk. Top-notch Postscript output is absolutely necessary for high-end print production work. You can replace Microsoft's Postscript drivers with Adobe's but again it's one more nuisance that you don't have to deal with on other platforms.

            And, last but not least, Macs just last longer and give more relatively problem-free performance. Ask any publishing house or newspaper. My local papers are generally running their 24/7/365 production departments on 5+ year old Macs. Try to get any vendor's Windows-based systems to stand up that long to the sort of abuse these workstations get. Again, don't believe me--I conduct every-other-year surveys of graphic arts professionals in my area (Dallas/Ft. Worth) and the overwhelming majority run Mac-based media workstations for this given reason: the unreliability of Windows.

            I'm no Mac fanboy: I valiantly soldiered on using Windows for 7 years when I first started my agency (now have Mac, Linux & Windows workstations). But I would never recommend that anyone choose a Windows-based PC for that sort of grueling, it-can't-fail-at-3:00am sort of work. I was constantly fighting registry rot and Microsoft's half-baked color, font and Postscript subsystems for those 7 years.

            Oh, by the way: Windows still doesn't have high-end font management built into the system in The Year of Our Lord 2008? What gives? My Linux (running the KDE desktop) has had it for 3 years now. And yes--you do need high-end font management when you run a professional media house and need quick access to 5000+ fonts.
          • Well

            [i]Ask any publishing house or newspaper. My local papers are generally running their 24/7/365 production departments on 5+ year old Macs. Try to get any vendor's Windows-based systems to stand up that long to the sort of abuse these workstations get.[/i]

            Until last year one shop I worked at was using 10yr old 486's running Windows 95, without problems. These were shop floor machines, usually covered in dust and sometimes oil.
          • Who made that 486 PC and what did it cost?

            Back in the day there were still clear variations between the
            vendors and some made real quality stuff (usually cost more)
            and others well not so much. I have never thought of PC
            hardware as an issue unless we are speaking of the el cheapo
            system that is. Still even with the el cheapo you can still find
            the odd few that will last for some reason. Just luck of the
            draw I suppose.

            Pagan jim
            James Quinn
          • @Jim

            Not sure how much they cost, they were purchased before I started there. I'll check on the mfg, can't remember it at the moment. I do know it wasn't any major label like HP, Dell, etc.. The only real problem we ever had with them was the PS fans would occasionally get gummed up and we'd have to replace them. But a generic PS would get them going for another 3 or 4 years.

            Edit: just remembered, it was a company called AST
          • @Bozzer

            File formats are the same.
            However on the Mac you get built-in Font Management, Ligatures and System Level Color management.

            Windows still can't use Ligatures without a special Ligature character set. This method is very cumbersome to the point that it is rarely used and most people are not going to spend the extra money it costs for the expert font set that contains the Ligatures. The Mac on the other hand can automatically substitute ligature sets on the fly.

            I've seen applications on Windows that refuse to open anymore because of too many fonts loaded and no easy or inexpensive way to manage them. Not to mention that Windows throws all of the Fonts in one big llooooonnnggg menu. Whereas the Mac groups font families to together making a much shorter font menu list.

            Since there is no system level color management, every application that needs color calibration needs to be done individually and many times use their own color management system. It is very time consuming to do, cumbersome and you still don't get consistent color between apps.
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    • Waste not, want not.

      It's always been a mistake to consider Mac users as a monolithic bloc.
      If you don't make that mistake, you will see that the question "are Mac
      users really all that price conscious?" just doesn't make sense. Of
      course some Mac users are price conscious. (All the more so in the
      current cratering economy.)

      (To see how little sense it makes to think of Mac users as a single bloc,
      just substitute "PC users" in there. Well, which PC users would those
      be? Dell customers? Lenovo customers? BYO folks? Gamers? Business
      customers? Desk workers? Road warriors? See what I mean?)

      For my own part I would say I am price conscious, although not cheap.
      That is to say, I want to choose the piece of hardware that will fulfill my
      needs and desires for the least cost. Last time I needed to buy a
      computer, I looked at what I wanted it to do, and the Mini seemed to fill
      the bill, so I bought one. I've been very happy with the decision, too.

      As for why a Mini instead of an iMac, apart from the lower price, the
      other reason is that I find it distasteful to throw away a monitor,
      keyboard and mouse just to upgrade my CPU. The Mini I bought
      replaced a previous G4 tower, and I was able to keep using my monitor,
      keyboard and mouse just fine and repurposed the G4 as a server. If
      Apple comes out with a compelling new Mini (whether or not this story
      is a fake) I might buy one, move the current one to be a server, retire
      the G4, and put the new Mini on my desk, again with no new M/K/M
      Anonymous Benefactor
      • why...?

        why would you throw away your mouse keyboard and monitor just cuz you bought an iMac? I'm sure you can find other uses... I like Apples keyboards but their mighty mouse totally sucks, so id keep your old mouse and throw the new one in a drawer for backup... but if you have a monitor, I'd just plug it into the imac and run dual monitors.
        • re: Waste Not, Want Not

          My guess is that he really meant that when the iMac became outdated, throwing it away would be a shame. At least, he got me thinking about that. As for running dual monitors, I don't know about previous iMacs but the one I have (newest 3.06 Ghz) doesn't have that capability. I wish it did. I've got another monitor I'd love to run at the same time.
    • Macminis Rule

      Keep them in the line up.
    • you must been twelve years old

      or a troll, or the incarnation of the arrogant stupid mac bigot.
  • iFloppy Drive

    I'm pretty sure the external floppy drive will make a come back.
  • Perhaps the lid is for memory upgrading?

    I like the Mac Mini well enough but it is a bit odd in design as
    it stands to upgrade the memory.

    Pagan jim
    James Quinn