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The iPhone 4’s second Vietnam: the proximity sensor (updated 3x)

By | July 5, 2010, 9:38pm PDT

Summary: A lot of attention is being paid to the apparently flawed antennae design on the new iPhone 4, but what about its buggy proximity sensor?

The iPhone 4’s second major problem isn’t getting nearly as much attention as the first, but it’s arguably just as bad — because it causes you to drop calls. The only difference is that your face is to blame, not AT&T’s craptastic network.

The proximity sensor in the iPhone 4 is what tells it how close the phone is to your face so that it can turn the touchscreen off while you’re making a phone call. This has the effect of a) saving battery power, and b) preventing inadvertent touches of the screen by your face.

The problem is that the proximity sensor in the iPhone 4 is on a hair trigger. It’s either not sensitive enough, miscalibrated or both. In over three years of using the iPhone 2G, 3G and 3GS I’ve never accidentally hung up on, muted or put a call on speakerphone while holding it up to my face — not once. Yet I’ve done it a half dozen times on my iPhone 4 over the past weekend.

As I first blogged about in my iLemon post, I frequently put calls on speaker, or accidentally “FaceTime them” or completely hang up on calls altogether because the proximity sensor errantly wakes the screen, which some part of my cheek proceeds to touch.

And I’m not the only one. There are 66 pages of proximity sensor complaints in this one thread alone (which already has over 100,000 views) from iPhone 4 users in Apple’s own support forums.

What bothers me is that the prox bug — which seems to be more related to software than hardware — seems like childsplay compared to the antennae/reception issue. Also, it only affects the i4 and so a fix wouldn’t have to be QA’d for Apple’s other iPhone handsets.

Can’t Apple just dial back the sensitivity on the proximity sensor a couple of notches and release a software update? Why is Apple waiting for a “few weeks” and rolling everything into one massive update when it could probably release a proximity fixes for afflicted iPhone 4 users right now? It seems like a comparatively trivial bug and Apple is making its iPhone 4 customers suffer needlessly in the mean time.

Does your iPhone 4 proximity sensor act up?

Image: 9to5Mac

Update: Anthony Kinson has posted a video of the bug in action. Pay attention to the erratic behavior of the proximity sensor beginning at around the 1:34 mark.

Update 2: Another video demonstration is here.

Update 3: A PowerPage commenter reports that Apple is deleting prox bug threads on its discussions.apple.com

Update 4: Macworld has reported that some users are having success with resetting some of their iPhone’s settings.

Many affected users report that either a Settings reset or a hard reboot fixes their problem. One Apple support thread recommends that users open the Settings app, then go to General -> Reset, and choose “All Settings” at the top (note: this will not erase your apps, media, or other data — that’s what the “Erase All Content and Settings” button just below this option is for. “Reset All Settings” just reverts any Settings preferences you’ve customized back to their factory defaults). One Twitter follower, Brian Partridge, reported that AppleCare told him to just use Reset -> Reset Network Settings, not all settings, and it worked.

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

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RE: The iPhone 4's second Vietnam: the proximity sensor (updated)
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
We have to many thanks reebok jersey for this epic website .I most definitely liked each individual minor tiny little bit of it. I've you bookmarked your website site to investigate out in the ongoing stuff you compose.
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Same on my updated 3GS
WillCroPoint 5th Jul 2010
The same happens with my iOS updated 3GS. Previously I have never had a problem with this sensor, since the update I triggered the speaker during many of my calls. I doubt this would be a coincidence... I hope Apple will solve this through a software update soon.
@WillCroPoint
A BIG YES to that!!
I am so frustrated on my 3GS.
Updated to iOS4 and now more than a third of my calls when I take the phone from anywhere nere my face the screen is black and stays that way.
Usually I have to do the Home/Power button hold to get the screen to come back on.

Apple store answer: "Sir, we are aware of this and there will be a fix soon. Until then I recommend using a BT earpiece. We have several good models in stock..."

idiots!
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Ditto with my 3G
RationalGuy Updated - 7th Jul 2010
@WillCroPoint

I had two weird hangups that seemed to be related to the proximity sensor. Never happened before I updated to iOS4.
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You just had to say..
HalfAKilo 5th Jul 2010
You just had to say AT&T "craptastic network", didn't you? Even though in the open paragraph you mention the faulty antenna.
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@HalfAKilo

We'll assume from your comment that AT&T is great where you live and work.

AT&T's network is craptastic where I live, work and most places I go. When paired with Apple's craptastic antennae you have a disaster.

Obviously YMMV.
- Jason
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Just A Simple Question...
Steve@... Updated - 6th Jul 2010
@Jason D. O'Grady
with the launch of the iPad, it seems that apple would have had complete freedom, to move the mobile connectivity to any of the cellular providers ???
And yet apple continued to partner with AT&T...
Have you any insight into this irony ?
If AT&T is so bad, it seems that apple could improve their own reputation by partnering with someone else ??
@Jason D. O'Grady

cut the crap and not compare this issue to the Vietnam War alright..people are not losing their lives due to a poor cell net, bad antenna or proximity detector
@Jason D. O'Grady I like the term Craptastic. It is the correct use of the word. My AT&T is good / great in the DC area, that said, it doesn't work well in Durham / Chapel Hill. By "doesn't work well" I am in fact saying it's Craptastic. Enjoyed the blog, especially having other sources show the issue.
Sorry but the author isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. The iphone 4 antenna problem isn't because of the carrier.
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@illogicbuster
Was that necessary? I *know* that the antennae problem isn't directly related to the carrier, but when both are bad, it's a recipe for disaster. And that disaster is the iPhone 4.
@Jason D. O'Grady

Exactly how many iPhone hardware problems have to be discovered before you finally admit that the problem isn't the carrier?

This is ridiculous, I get so sick of this, Apple people first refuse that there is any kind of problem with an Apple product, and then when the problem is pointed out in such a way that it cannot possibly be denied, promptly points the finger at someone OTHER than Apple?

There are 87 million AT&T customers, and yet the only ones who seem to complain about coverage are the 6 million who use the iPhone....coincidence?

Is it really so hard to believe that the same company which produced complete duds like the Apple III and the Lisa could have made a bad phone?
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Apple controls both hardware and software so...
root12 Updated - 6th Jul 2010
...Apple gets the blame for everything. Apple has got to realize that having control of both S/W and H/W takes alot more responsibility, especially, as Apple has, a very small product line, in this case only one phone. Apple cannot afford to let their game down.

Microsoft for example, can walk away and doesn't have to with issues. Microsoft is invisible to most consumers as Dell, HP, Sony etc sell the computers to people. Microsoft knows how hard it is to control both H/W and S/W by the amount of trouble they had with their Xbox, fortunately for them, that was only a game machine.

Apple has got to hire more people for testing and quality.
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Indeedio!
MSFTWorshipper 6th Jul 2010
@root12 Apple apologists tell us how wonderful it is having one company control the entire HW/SW experience. Now they can choke on it.
You're starting to sound like a guy who put all his eggs in a nice shiney basket, only to find that it's turned into a wet paper bag.

Don't tell me you also put your life savings into a Madoff fund.

wink

Seriously... Can we now please stop peddling the myth that Apple customers are always 100% satisfied. 9 out of 30 iPhone 4's returned is not a good example of satisfied customers.
@iTeaBoy: First, 9 out of 30 is anecdotal evidence. Second, even if it were accurate, it's too small and unrepresentative a sample size. I'm not saying these numbers may or may not prove out. I'm saying that there is no reliable evidence yet of the number of phones returned. Let's wait until the number or percentage of returned phones has been verified before we start using unsubstantiated numbers in our analyses.
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@iTeaBoy
I don't know about disgruntled. Disappointed is more like it. I just want my damned phone to work. All weekend I had to apologize to people for hanging up on them, putting them on hold and randomly dialing in their ear. Luckily it was the weekend and most weren't "business" calls. Unfortunately, the holiday weekend is over and now I've got business calls to make. How long should I have to apologize for my phone? A "few weeks?" Apple needs to fix the prox bug now or my iPhone is going into a drawer. My Evo and DroidX don't do this.
@Jason D. O'Grady why don't you use bluetooth?
Thanks for highlighting this. I have suffered since day-one and added to the burgeoning list of complaints on Apple's forum.

Having said that, there is a glaring error in your piece, and that is the suggestion that the sensor needs to be attenuated. Of course the problem is actually the converse, in that it is not sensitive enough and needs to actuate when further from one's face than is the case at present. iP4's predecessors had a prox sensor which kicked-in at a far healthier 2 inches or so, rather than the half an inch of the present model.

Regards,

Richard.
I haven't had a single problem with my iPhone 4.
Never dropped a call, never had a problem with the proximity sensor or anything. I'm actually more happy with this phone than any I have owned.
Just my experience.
Why does it even need a proximity sensor? Sounds like an overly complicated solution to a simple problem. Why not just lock the screen when in a call, and to wake it, you must touch and THEN 'slide to unlock'. Inadvertant taps may wake the screen, but it won't unlock it unless iPhone users are rubbing their phones all over their faces.
@smann5@... First, they've had the proximity sensor in the phone since inception with no problems until now. Second, you want the phone to unlock when it's away from your face - even during a call - so you can use the various functions like the number pad, muting, merge, etc. When it works (which is most always before now and even now) it's actually a brilliant feature, not an "overly complicated solution" as you suggest.
@Falkirk my solution does allow you to use the other features while in a call, you just have to manually unlock the phone, thus eliminating the inadvertant touches and the need for a proximity sensor in the first place. Maybe it does work great most of the time, but I am always a fan of simpler is better.
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Slightly off topic - coz it's to do with iOS4 rather than the iPhone 4 - but is anyone else having their 3GS reboot in the middle of a call? It's actually rebooting so is nothing to do with the proximity sensor. It's happening several times a day now and it didn't happen before I upgraded to iOS4 ;-(
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"Vietnam?" Really?
Fixer77 6th Jul 2010
iPhone problems are to be compared to Vietnam? Are thousands of US soldiers and millions of Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians dying from proximity sensor issues? Hyperbole much?
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Surely it isn't a great leap....
croberts 6th Jul 2010
@Fixer77

'A Vietnam' is commonly taken to mean a something along the lines of a complex situation that cannot be resolved, and which will result in increasing levels of wasted resources and public mistrust in a futile attempt to seek a resolution that isn't possible.

Really, not a great leap to try and relate that lesson to the business world.
@Fixer77 Well, if you hold the IPhone 4 the wrong way all the land mines explode.
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Drama Much?
tricktytom 6th Jul 2010
@Fixer77

It's an innocent comparison, nobody is getting carpet-bombed, so calm down.
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Apple finally jumped the shark
croberts 6th Jul 2010
The whole iPhone4 has turned into a subtle PR mess. If anything, the general public is "suspicious" and that's a very strange reaction for a new new product.

The proximity sensor issue smacks of poor testing, like if the product was rushed out the door because Apple expected the public to buy anything with an Apple logo slapped on the side.

The "bar display" fiasco has been described as slimy. Again, the general public will only see this as Apple making the best reception appear worse, so that the worst reception *doesn't_appear_as_bad*.

And finally, the whole "let's put the antenna into contact with your skin" idea must worry people at some level. I don't know if cell signals can barbeque my brain and cause DNA mutations leading to cancer, but holding the phone by the antenna *does* concern me.

I think once the dust settles, and we all look back on this a couple years from now, the iPhone4 will be remembered as a lemon and not as a work of genius.
@croberts But Apple is "insanely great" and "perfect", "genius". Steve Jobs is a God.
@croberts All of this smells as FUD for me. I doubt that so many people have such problems. Of all the people i know (including me) who already have the iPhone 4, none has encountered such problems yet. I'm not saying that they do not exist, but just that the sound resonating from the speakers is much more loud that the original one.
"It seems like a comparatively trivial bug and Apple is making its iPhone 4 customers suffer needlessly in the mean time."
The iPhone is a premium product. Your pain and suffering should be of equal or greater value. Get what you pay for...
My Sena case was blocking the sensor since it covers much of the top of the phone. Now when I get a call I just take the phone out of the case and have had no more dropped calls. If I knew where the sensor was, I could put a hole in the leather case. Otherwise, the Sena case satisfies all my requirements.
Well, if the Proximity Sensor issue is the Second Vietnam, it is a war not worth even fighting. Why don't you all unsatisfied customers return said devices or excange them for real cell phones? Still have a couple of weeks left. If so may issues have been found in less than 14 days, imagine how many more will be found once the return period is over?
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Not just the Promixity Sensor, but EVERYTHING
istariphoenix1 6th Jul 2010
It is NOT a software or firmware issue. Apple's proposed "fix" for the reception issue is like putting a bandaid on am amputee, and they are lying through their collective forked tongue about this one. But the proximity sensor? That's just again bad hardware design.

I am still very bummed about this shenanigan. I bought the iPhone 4 and returned it 4 days later because the reception issue was certainly not the only issue on the phone: there are NUMEROUS issues with both the design flaw as well as glitches within iOS4. However, the software glitches have absolutely ZERO to do with a p***-poor hardware design. Apple is LYING and telling us that our complaints are "non-issues" and that we're "holding it wrong." GIVE ME A BREAK. I AM RAVING MAD ABOUT THIS. This is a scandalous cover-up. They were in such a rush to get this out there and defray HTC Evo Sales and of course to keep people from moving to the Droid X and other smartphones that they simply dismissed it, and that?s the truth. NO WONDER Steve Jobs couldn't get a signal at the WWDC!!

I wanted to keep my iPhone 4, but frankly, losing reception, dropping calls, bad proximity sensor (thus inadvertently putting people on mute, speakerphone, hold while on the call with them), Push notification failures, voice memo freezes, phone freezes, sluggishness, etc. changed my mind. WHAT A JOKE. APPIC FAIL. I switched back to the 3GS and have never been happier, although I should have left Apple all together. Customers do not deserve to be lured in and then insulted and then lied to.
I think that Apple is going to have some serious growing pains in light of recent events! i.e Death grip complaints and Attenuation issues...

www smartmouth.me
Vietnam? Really? Was the Holocaust too strong of a term (just barely?)? It's a phone, not millions of civilian women and children being murdered, not hundreds of thousands of drafted soldiers being murdered. A phone.
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I agree with croberts response to my headline above:

"'A Vietnam' is commonly taken to mean a something along the lines of a complex situation that cannot be resolved, and which will result in increasing levels of wasted resources and public mistrust in a futile attempt to seek a resolution that isn't possible. Really, not a great leap to try and relate that lesson to the business world."
@Jason D. O'Grady

"commonly" where?

not here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:+vietnam

Or in the Urban Dictionary
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You're right..it's not Vietnam..
tricktytom 6th Jul 2010
@bobbrentman :...because we got out of Vietnam...people are still buying the crappy iPhone4.
The proximity sensor issue is very real, and I applaud the authors for putting this article out there. It is quite evident, based on the number of posts in the Apple support forums, that many people are affected. Although Apple has publicly acknowledged the reception issue, little to nothing seemingly is being done about the proximity sensor problem.

It would appear that there are varying degrees in which this problem manifests itself. For some users, the proximity sensor functions, albeit with a less than/more than desirable sensitivity level. For others, including myself, the sensor will intermittently fail to activate altogether.

I am increasingly finding it difficult to believe that this is a software issue; nevertheless, Apple needs to issue some kind of statement immediately. Again, I thank the author for helping to bring this issue into the light.
I went to the Apple store yesterday for this exact problem, and the Genius that helped me swapped my iPhone 4 for a new one. He was able to replicate the problem I was having, reporting that at times my screen would come on 'half lit' and allow the buttons to pushed. I haven't used my phone enough since then to tell if the problem is gone, but getting it swapped was relatively painless.

I have had enough issues with this phone that if I have any more problems I will be returning/selling it. I had a 3G for 2 years and never had a bad thing to say about it, as coverage in my area is pretty good.
Maybe the bugs will all be fixed by the time the white iPhone 4 is available. I read a rumor that it might ship as early as this weekend.

Source:

http://thewhiteiphone4blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/white-iphone-4-rumor-its-coming-this.html
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Peace... the engineer's on vacations
dmendels 6th Jul 2010
This will be fixed when he returns wink
If someone wants to investigate another iPhone/iPod algorithm that has never been right, look into the music Shuffle routine. There HAS to be something wrong with that because it repeats songs in a way that cannot be truly random. There's got to be a glitch in the Shuffle.

True, not as big a deal as a proximity sensor, but it's inexcusably wrong.
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I'm enjoying every glitch, bug, error, lie that comes out of this little phone. There is a god! jejeje
Judging by all these blogs, one may think that iPhone 4 is a pile of problems. I had absolutely no problem with mine, and I don't think I'm the only one. As any mobile phone, iPhone 4 is not free from issues, but I smell a conscious FUD campaign originating from google to push Android.

For example, black screen during calls is something appearing sometimes with iOS 4 (never encountered this myself yet), but screen remaining black seems to be a pervasive problems with Android phones. But of course nobody blogs about it. Very biased.
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Where's Palmetto?
yobtaf 16th Jul 2010
Does anyone know?
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We have to many thanks reebok jersey for this epic website .I most definitely liked each individual minor tiny little bit of it. I've you bookmarked your website site to investigate out in the ongoing stuff you compose.

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