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Why the iPhone and Google Voice don’t mix

By | January 25, 2011, 6:19pm PST

Summary: I’ve been a huge advocate of Google Voice for a while, its got a lot of great features, but it’s a royal pain on the iPhone.

I’ve been an advocate of Google Voice for a while, its got a lot of great features including truly being able to keep your phone number for life and never being tethered to a device or carrier again.

I use Google Voice most when I switch to Android full-time while writing my Droid books (in order to immerse myself in the topic, natch). I also love it because I can easily forward my GV number to any/all of my phones – which is great if you use several different phones or switch devices often.

Much has already been written about the benefits of Google Voice so I’m not going to re-cap it all here.

The announcement that Google Voice is now offering phone number portability is a watershed event. It means that you can now port your current phone mobile number (sorry, no landlines or corporate numbers yet) to GV and enjoy true mobile phone freedom. The announcement makes Google a pseudo-mobile phone carrier, except that it doesn’t own towers, doesn’t charge you anything and you can leave any time.

While it all sounds exciting, there are limits.

You have to be off contract
Porting to GV cancels your existing mobile phone service. You need to be safely outside of your carrier contract or risk paying a nasty Early Termination Fee. You should also tell your existing carrier about your plans to port in advance too — and while you’re on the phone with them, make sure that your account is paid in full before trying any of this porting chicanery. Carriers don’t let you “port out” if you have a balance.

Contracts aside, iPhone users will find it inconvenient to use Google Voice.

No GV integration in iOS
Google Voice isn’t integrated with iOS, it’s a third-party app. For example, if you port to GV all calls made from your iPhone must be made from the Google Voice app, as opposed to the native iOS Phone app. Otherwise your caller ID will display the number from the device hardware — not your GV/”real” phone number. If someone saves the device number or calls you back from their recent call list, you’re out of luck.

It shouldn’t be a surprise that Android has deep GV integration. It’s trivial to set up your Android device so that the native dialer uses your GV number. It’s completely transparent on Android whereas you have to completely re-wire your brain and remember to only use the GV app on the iPhone. Good luck with that.

Epicenter’s David Kravets compared his experience porting to GV to an LSD trip gone awry after spending countless hours on a bizarre journey through the depths of customer service hell with his carrier. He was so pissed off that he coined a new term: “going wireless carrier,” a 2011 version of “going postal.”

Danny Sullivan wrote a thoughtful and detailed piece on what its like to port to GV based on his experience using the service for six months. Sullivan’s piece is required reading if you’re entertaining the thought of porting to GV.

So what’s with the Apple limitations?

Simple. Apple is protecting the annuity it gets in the form of a commission from the carrier fees you pay every month. Why would Apple make it easier for you to make free/cheap calls and send free text messages when it cuts into the bottom line?

Apple needs to adds support for alternative dialers to iOS — or it risks falling even farther behind Android in market share.

Will Apple ever allow GV into it’s walled garden?

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
greghughespdx 19th Oct
Not so much of a royal pain anymore - You can integrate directly with the iPhone's native apps if your iPhone is from Sprint: http://www.greghughes.net/rant/UseYourSprintIPhone4NativePhoneAndMessageSMSAppsIntegratedDirectlyWithGoogleVoice.aspx
Without a carrier for internet, where do you get your VOIP Google Voice connection?
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You know, the kind that iOS types don't understand.
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
illegaloperation Updated - 25th Jan 2011
Apple is obviously not promoting nor integrating Google Voice into iOS because it doesn't own Google Voice. Is this really that surprising?
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Why should Apple care about GV ???
wackoae 25th Jan 2011
@day2die GV is a 3rd party application. It is Google's job to make it work on the target platforms.

Why the hell should Apple, Red Hat, Microsoft or any OS vendor spend a single second thinking about supporting a 3rd party tool?
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
illegaloperation 25th Jan 2011
@wackoae
Exactly what I was thinking.
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@wackoae

Would you buy a PC if you could only run applications purchased from Microsoft, only access websites approved by Microsoft, only buy products from stores owned by Microsoft? The only reason that the personal computer as we know it today exists is because IBM the OS vendors had "open" systems allowing 3rd-party innovation. Otherwise you would still be doing your word processing on a green-screen terminal and playing Pong Version 37 on your rented video arcade machine.
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@terry flores He is talking about integration, not about open & accepting 3rd party applications. You do know that you can install hundreds of applications on the iphone right? right?
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
Pete "athynz" Athens 26th Jan 2011
@wackoae Exactly! It should not be up to the "base" platform to support the thrid party apps but the responsibility of the third party developer to make sure their product integrates into the platform they are working with.

Personally I could care less about mobile number portability anyhow as I'm still under contract and I use my GV number for side work and prefer to keep it separate from my personal and work numbers.
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@NaderBelaid & @athynz did you read the part approve & sell by MS?? that how Apple works, if they don't feel like it, they just reject the apps they don't even need to tell you why!!! The integration Jason is talking about is not possible because Apple don't allow anyone to make that integration. You're the clear example of the irrational Apple fanboys
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@b3lc3bu

Bingo!! we have a winner... Tell him what he's won Johnny!!!

someone apparently missed terry flores' sarcasm/implied meaning. we all need to than kb3lc3bu for pointing this out the deaf, dumb, and blind who post on this forum...
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@wackoae Because IT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT!!!11!!1ONE!ONE!!1 or some bullphooey like that.
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this is all very new to me, but its about time to work my way into Google voice. more inspiration from a blog
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Can't live without it
BioNerd 26th Jan 2011
Google Voice is such a great service.
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
elisha.kusen@... 26th Jan 2011
Why are you out of luck if you cal from your 'real number' ?
Then you get the call directly...isn't the point so that you get your call?
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@elisha.kusen@... No, it's important for my contacts to only have my GV number. When they receive a call from my iPhone number, it confuses them, and if they call me back on that number, it doesn't ring my office and house (in addition to my iPhone).
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@dwoodeson Gee...just like if you call them from your home or office landline... For your Google Number to show in CallerID, you _must_ call them from Google or a Google-understanding mobile phone. _Everything_ else, not just an Apple phone, will show the real CallerID. Big whoop.
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Wrong
Doctor Demento 26th Jan 2011
It is really annoying when someone who is supposed to be commenting on mobile technology doesn't know the mobile phone industry.

You can port out your number when you have a balance, port outs, as well as other account transactions such as upgrades and activations, are blocked ONLY when the outstanding balance is past due. If you have a balance and it is not past due, there won't be a problem.

As a side note, can I be the only one who finds the idea of literally having 'the same phone number for life' absolutely terrifying? If I had the same phone at age 35 as I did at age 15, how the hell am I ever goong to get all those annoying people I knew when I was 15 but don't want to talk to anymore to stop trying to call me? Also, excessive portability of numbers makes area codes completely meaningless, so you will never know what anybody's area code is going to be, and you can forget about ever being able to actually remember anybody's phone number.
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@Doctor Demento You grow a pair and tell them you don't want to talk to them. BTW, area codes already are unreliable on a cell number.
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@Doctor Demento GV helps you there, too. You can change your number any time you like. I don't find the prospect of a number for life any kind of problem... then again, I don't have much of an enemies list from when I was 15, either. But if,at some point, I did, I could swap out the GV number without worrying about changing my cell number.

GV also let's you do interesting things, like having a local number in two different cities that rings to the same device. Great tech, even for people who are not trying to live two different lives.
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You cannot shut off your mobile account!
psisson Updated - 26th Jan 2011
This article is incorrect. If you shut down your mobile phone service, Google Voice doesn't work because unlike apps like Line2, Skype, etc, Google Voice is NOT VoIP. It needs the cell plan (and your minutes) to make calls from an iPhone. If you shut down your carrier, you'll have no way to use Google Voice!! Instead, you must work with your carrier to *change the number* to one you don't care about, which is the number you will configure google voice to forward calls to after you old cell number is ported.
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@psisson
Thank about using WiFi at WAP. It is talking about such scenario
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
alsobannedfromzdnet Updated - 26th Jan 2011
@ashwinipn

Think about using payphones as you search desperately for wifi with a phone with no signal, it'd be like using Skype from an iPod touch.
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@alsobannedfromzdnet

Umm...teenagers are making and receiving skype calls from ipod touches all the time now via wifi...and have no problems doing so.
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Bunch of baloney
kundza 26th Jan 2011
Let me get this straight...Apple is going to loose market share if they don't support GV and other dialers directly in the IOS? Do you really think most people care about this? What a bunch of hogwash ....
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@kundza Maybe not major market share, but not insignificant either. Having to use the GV app on iPhone is a beat down for me, my wife, and several of our friends. I know I'm switching to an Android device the second my contract ends, solely for this functionality gap.
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
alsobannedfromzdnet 26th Jan 2011
@dwoodeson

Seeing as last quarter 62% of iPhones sold in markets where GV doesn't exist, I don't think it will matter much.
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@dwoodeson I would be curious to see some actual number on GV usage on the iPhone. I personally don't know anybody that has ever mentioned that they use GV. That doesn't mean that I don't know anybody that uses it but it is an indication that it's not widely used at least by people that I know.
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FOOLS !
thofts 26th Jan 2011
Google IS evil and GV is just one more way they are positioning Google to run the world while keeping tabs on everyone.
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@thofts

Yep...it's like Pinky and the Brain....they are plotting to take over the world. I read an article today about the enticing prospects of Android OS being built into tv sets and suddenly remembered that this is what Microsoft has been dreaming about for over a decade now....but never could manage to hit that nail dead on with a hammer.

Can we say GV on TV sets anybody?
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Because...
james347 26th Jan 2011
...Google makes inferior products.
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Here is my concern with using GV
john@... 26th Jan 2011
Google is great for just about anything other than CUSTOMER SERVICE. Your phone becomes your life. If Verizon, ATT, Tmobile or Sprint cause an issue, you can walk into a company owned store and talk to someone. You can dial 611 or whatever number and get someone after the many, many menu options comes to an end.

Have you ever tried to reach google? I have had google apps for years and it works flawlessly, but the one time someone hijacked the admin years ago it took us some serious time to get control back. Days... and lots of frustration. It was all email.

Tell me who you call when something goes wrong?

That being said, they are usually bullet proof.
@john@... ADVERTISERS. People who use all the Google freebies and think they are Google's customers are deluding themselves. Google only uses the freebies as bait to suck people in to using their stuff so they get more revenue from ads! They are not at all concerned about how happy these users are once they have been sucked in. Let's face it---if you get something for free, how much "customer service" do you think you're entitled to???
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@Userama I agree to a certain degree. Advertiser are their customers and the users of their free products are just a tool to bring in more advertisers. Where I disagree is that they do need to make you at least happy enough to continue using the free service.

In regard to customer service, I have never tried to get any for their free services but have been an advertiser in the past. I can say if you are their true customer (paying, not using free services) their customer service is pretty good.
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Way too complicated eplaination.

They don't mix because Google didn't enable typing or pasting a phone number, they ll have to be in contacts first.

Boo
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
pk de cville Updated - 26th Jan 2011
"Apple needs to add support for alternative dialers to iOS or it risks falling even farther behind Android in market share."

Seems someone thinks this is true. Reading the general media, one would agree, but diving deeper, we have these notable points.

- Most Android phones are not smartphones. They are cheap Asian knockoffs running 1.x versions priced under $100.
- AT&T has 15 iPhones for each Android.
- iPhone has been available to only 1/3 of US subscribers.
- iPhone on Verizon 2/10/11.
- Android is self destructing through meh user experience - 70% iPhone owners plan to buy another iPhone. Android? 31%
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
phenricks@... 26th Jan 2011
I think the gang commenting above, somehow lost the forest for the trees. Porting you number only means in this case that you can move your existing mobile number (which presumably you've had forever) to GV. Thus making your existing cell number your GV number. Then you can forward that to any device/phone you want. This would make sense if you were interested in jumping off of a T-Mobile account to get a better rate on an unlimited data plan for $40 per month with Virgin Wireless on a month to month basis and still want to possibly get call on your work phone when people call your wireless number. All a simply matter of forwarding the call on the GV interface. You still need a phone to get the forwarded GV calls. When making calls from an Android phone, the integration of GV makes it possible for the receiver of that call see your GV/Old Cell number in the caller ID. Its an awesome service!
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Good article, all true. I can't wait to switch to an android device for better GV integration. I'm hooked on the benefits of GV, and am willing to deal with the inconveniences on the iphone for a while longer.

Another issue: handsfree dialing.. voice commands invoke the iPhone phone, so calls go out on the iPhone instead of GV.
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RE: Why the iPhone and Google Voice don't mix
The Management consultant 26th Jan 2011
Skype is still king as voice is ONLY available in the us.? When will voice be available on a more useful basis?
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Hello Hello?
The Management consultant 26th Jan 2011
Skype is still king as voice is ONLY available in the us.? When will voice be available on a more useful basis?
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Google voice on iPhone, who cares. We (friends, colleagues, business associates) have been making free voice and video calls for years. Yes iPhone. Wow, and that was before Android. We don't need another wannabe data collection app from Google thanks.
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Google and Facebook
ZelkoDvorak 27th Jan 2011
Perhaps Google could offer a VOIP feature in their Google Voice App... (like they do in Gmail - via Google Voice) which would allow the user to make and receive unlimited calls all from one App... Especially if they had a data-only iPhone...

Imagine if Facebook did that with their App...?http://goo.gl/hrpAq
This posting does address the main topic at the very end and numerous other issues prior to it, because I couldn't find the appropriate forums to deliberate upon these.
The Standardization of Connectors and the Provision of Ubiquitous Services!

As for the standardization of connectors for mobile devices, I would favor the USB 3.0 connectors on all public and private transportation systems(airplanes, trains, subway-trains, and cars, etc wink and in all public venues (phone booths, malls, medical facilities, terminals etc wink.

It would make sense for all devices to use the same- sized USB connectors to take all potential hassles out of the issue. It simply doesn?t make sense for computers, cell-phones, cameras, and printers to use different connectors.

Even though, these would primarily be for the supply of power; if in the future, a need were to arise for these to provide voice or data either from the intranet or the internet, then USB 3.0 provides theoretical transfer rates of 5Gbps with actual rates approximating 3Gbps, which in my opinion would be adequate even for all future needs.

These venues and systems of mass usage could wirelessly retransmit the cellular and Wi-Fi signals, while those of somewhat limited usage that are supposed to be quiet venues, such as the transportation systems could transmit these through either cables or the atmosphere ? most of these would require a cradle for the mobile device that would set the mobile device into the silent mode and transmit all call and other notifications via the headphones, the on-seat displays, vibrating seats, or vibrating headrests in order not to disturb others ? the cradles can also be standardized to fit the largest device and owners of smaller devices could then buy their own proprietary cradles to fit into these ? You should be able to use your cell-phone and computer whether in a passenger plane, train, subway, or a car( you could also use the server provided on the systems to transfer data to your phone or a NAND chip). You should also be able to receive all of your television programming on these venues through either multiple transportation nodes acting as transceivers in a mesh network ,or else through every node transceiving the signals through a phased-array antenna from an extra-terrestrial (satellite) or terrestrial (cellular) transceiver.

This would be a true convergence of both your informational and recreational needs.

For example, your car could have a cradle for your cell-phone using the video from the GPS system and the audio from the HiFi system. All GPS and Cellular alerts would mute the HiFi system; the driver would then use 3 different buttons on the steering-wheel (to limit the potential distraction): one for mode selection, one for scrolling, and one for voice activated-commands to respond to them or to initiate them. He?d also have a small display flip over from the dashboard in front of the steering wheel, so as not to impair his peripheral vision.

All passengers could have cradles for their own devices and they could use these as intercoms with the driver having the priority to over-ride their individual systems.

This would let you store all of your data on a single Hard Drive or a NAND pool, use your screen for navigation or browsing or video viewing or alert viewing, and use your stereo for listening to music or talking over the phone or listening to GPS directions or keeping abreast of traffic advisories (The traffic advisories could also automatically update your GPS system). You could also have a keyboard below the honking ?panel made active only when the car is parked.

Finally do address all the potential safety hazards before designing such a system and have them scrutinized and approved by the transportation department.

Vehicles could also have accident-sensing system to alert the medical services before an accident, the medical services would respond within a specified period of time, unless the first alert is cancelled with a second alert intimating that the accident has been avoided. All passenger and impact information could also be transferred to the emergency services for them to respond in the appropriate manner.

Finally, another, standardization is needed in the storage arena. I would recommend for all devices to have either the SM-NAND or SD-NAND slots. The smaller cards (mini and micro SMs and SDs) could then have adapters to fit into these, while the large yet thin or narrow size of these chips would enable the storage of hundreds of GBs of data to address the needs of the future as well.CF is too high, while the others are too short or too small, so an SM or SD-NAND slot would be ideal. Micro hard-drives and holographic drives would be some of the other in-built storage options to look at, but you might still want to augment the standard built-in memory with additional memory.

Finally every person could be allocated a unique phone number for life. This would be stored on a DNS-like server for it to be translated into his present real number. His additional numbers; like his office, cellular, spousal, and parental, etc; numbers would take standardized suffixes to this unique number in a prioritized order. The person could authorize all or require an authentication request from the server before his numbers are made accessible to others.
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This is all rather silly.
drewsaur 27th Jan 2011
If you prefix all of your saved numbers with your Google voice number and a "2", you can emulate this on any phone - from an iPhone to your landline phone. (This is what your Android phone is doing behind the scenes anyway). If you really care that much.... Lord, it's amazing how much energy still put into things that never mattered to anyone before.
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Amen to that, brother!
Userama 27th Jan 2011
@drewsaur
Amen to that.
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Since for years now you can port your cell number to another carrier I am having trouble understanding why you can't keep your number and need GV to do so? Having not used GV I won't even begin to claim I understand the benefits of it but from what I understand you can forward to any number and can port your GV number. Pretty sure every phone service I have not from my business to my home to my cell can all be forwarded. Porting on the other hand does not always work for land lines though.
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Yes, you can integrate Google Voice into the iPhone.
Jailbreak the phone and go into CYDIA and install the Phone GV Extension and the SMS GV Extension. And there you go: INTEGRATION where you can call via Google Voice or text via Google Voice using the default Phone app and the default Messages app on the iPhone.
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Not so much of a royal pain anymore - You can integrate directly with the iPhone's native apps if your iPhone is from Sprint: http://www.greghughes.net/rant/UseYourSprintIPhone4NativePhoneAndMessageSMSAppsIntegratedDirectlyWithGoogleVoice.aspx

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