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Chinese workers threaten suicide at Foxconn: Not ‘why’, but ‘is enough being done’?

By | January 10, 2012, 3:00pm PST

Summary: Around 300 workers at a Foxconn plant climbed on to the roof and threatened to commit suicide over pay-cuts, conditions, and lack of compensation. Is enough being done for the workers?

When 300 men and women climb onto a rooftop and threaten to commit suicide in protest over denied compensation, it is impossible not to wonder how a company could lead its employees into such desperation.

But Foxconn did.

A little over a week ago, 300 employees at Foxconn’s Technology Park in Wuhan, China threatened their own lives because they were denied a vital pay increase. Foxconn told them they could either keep their jobs without it, or they could quit and be compensated.

Many chose to quit, but the company terminated the agreement, and none of the former workers received the promised compensation.

Production at the company was temporarily halted. It was not until 9 pm the next day that the town’s mayor was able to talk the 300 down from the roof.

Foxconn has been at the center of some considerably uncomfortable controversy over the last two years, after its high suicide rates and poor working conditions came to light. In total, it is thought 14 workers committed suicide in 2010.

Although previously the company’s suicide rate was well below the country’s average, it’s hard to downplay those numbers now.

Foxconn installed suicide nets at their factory last year, and workers in Chengdu are required to sign a “no suicide” pact in their contracts.

These are just a few of the many small details that add up to a more worrying whole.

Some are already wondering why they would choose suicide as their means of protest. But there are no unions for them to join, and striking would be ineffectual as they could just be replaced.

The truth of this situation is that their lives are the only thing they really have to fight with, and threatening suicide might have been the only way these workers could get their employers to take notice.

Even that, sadly, might not be enough. “If they were concerned about lessening human suffering, they would improve worker conditions and raise wages. Profit maximisation is the name of the game,” one Reddit user commented.

The company intends to increase the number of robots used in the factory from 10,000 to a million in the next three years, according to Foxconn chairman Thierry Gou. It is not hard to see why; the reason given is to deal with rising salary costs.

With over 1.2 million workers to consider in mainland China, Foxconn is thinking with numbers in mind.

From a more individual perspective, this increase could be seen as a way that Foxconn is trying to improve the situation for their workers. The demand for the products made by the company for Apple, Microsoft and other major consumer brands is not going to wane any time soon.

Everybody wants a part of the growing market, and in the end the costs will add up in both wages, but also in human lives. It might be 14 suicides in 2010, but that could become 300 in 2012, as these protesters showed.

Would increasing the number of robots on factory lines improve working conditions for Foxconn’s human workers? It might save them from having to do the kinds of jobs that could leave their health damaged, but it also might leave them desperate and out of work.

As many people have been saying, “a bad job is better than no job”.

We tend to think of China as being a dominant, growing superpower in a time of global recession, without considering the wider implications of how any company or any country can build profits, and succeed with no sacrifice.

In Asia, working hours are expected to be long, and conditions can often be tough. Everyday on the Tokyo Metro, hundreds of salarymen can be seen catching up on sleep in tiny minute-long snippets — anywhere they can — and it is considered culturally normal.

They are not joking when they tell you that this city never sleeps. There is never a time when the noise stops. It is an ever-constant groan on the lives of millions.

Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, and the picture of China does not bode well either. An estimated quarter of a million people in China commit suicide every year out of a population of 1.3 billion. When you look at that statistically, the workers at Foxconn would still be seen as a drop in the ocean.

Foxconn is probably only one of many companies and factories that tell the same story.

Looking back, the question might not be “why” employees of Foxconn are committing suicide, but, “is enough being done” to prevent it?

In the last two years, when critical focus on Foxconn has been at its highest, it seems the steps taken have not been enough. Will the protest of three hundred lives make a difference to that?

Image source: CNET.

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Hana is three things -- small, British, and stranded in Tokyo. After recognising that a degree in both English Literature and Film is, in fact, two parts unnecessary and useless, Hana decided that a change in pace was in order. With a lifelong passion for writing and a healthy fear/ fascination with technology, the next logical step was to move to Japan and surround herself with terrifying tech and a complete absence of the English language. She'll let you know how that venture works out.

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RE: Chinese workers threaten suicide at Foxconn: Not 'why', but 'is enough being done'?
Champ_Kind 13th Jan
@Rick_Kl And that's why some of the best new cars made today are American-branded and built in American factories by American union workers.

Keep on drinking that Koch Tea.
Also your statistics is wrong. You look at statistics for the whole population at all times. If you want to compare apples to apples... so to speak... you need to look at the average suicide rates at work. They may be lower or higher, I do not know. But comparing Foxconn suicide rates to the total population is not appropriate.
It is possible that the unemployed make up a large portion of the suicides for example and without those Foxconn rates could skyrocket comparative to the rest.
"If you don't have an Ipad... you may be socially responsible."
@kirovs@...

When talking about Foxconn, there is not a distinction between "at work" suicides, and just suicides. The company owns the dorms, shops, grocery stores etc.

When I ran the numbers the Foxconn suicide rates, even at the height of the drama, were not only lower than the Chinese average, but also lower than the US average.

I think the keyword here about these 300 is "threatening" suicide. They have seen how the suicides have caused dramatic increases in salaries and benefits, ie, they have seen that suicide is a useful bargaining chip. Hard to say how many of the 300 were bluffing and how many would really have carried it out.

Not to say that the conditions aren't hard, or that it is not worth trying to improve other peoples lives where possible, but it is generally worth remembering that people are not forced to work in places like Foxconn. They are there, putting up with the conditions, because it is better than their other alternatives. Good intentions can sometimes end up shutting down that option entirely for them and forcing them back to worse alternatives.
@SlithyTove
So you know for sure that the suicide rate did include not only those jumping off Foxconn buildings, but also out of their workplace. Is this really the case? Or you are speculating?
The question you bring about killing a better alternative is fair. There is a need to push China to get real labor protection laws, non-government unions, etc. It is wild, 18 century capitalism in this "communist" country for certain.
People in the US, especially the Republicans and anti-union folks, would like to forget the past history of this nation and the abuse of workers that went on for too long. Keep this story on the front page until the next election. People need to remember. People need to support unions.
@mstrsfty

Unions have done much to improve the conditions and pay of workers in many countries. They have also done as much, if not worse, than "big business" to harm workers. You need only look at the incredible levels of corruption within unions throughout history; corruption that continues to this day. People need to remember.
@Habiloso

You and mstrsfty summarize the choice of two abuses. (not evils).

I'd prefer to have a decent job (even if that job had only a temporary time duration) with union abuses than work in a sweat shop, suicide conducive environment without employee union representation.
@Habiloso
as well as many other companies with their beliefs that they should be paid much more then their positions were worth, and that seniority, not their poor work attitute or limited skill set as the basis for employment.

Look to your auto industry in the south: a higher quality vehicle built by a highly compensated, well benefitted non union work force for proof of that.

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@Mister Spock

I am from Australia, not the USA. Like the USA, we have many highly respected and ethical unions. We also have a history of corrupt unions eg the current building unions and historically the Painters and Dockers union (in Melbourne). There is also an ongoing issue with the Health Services Union. I've no problem with unions, per se, and I was a member of a very professional and respected union for more than 20 years.
@Mister Spock
You have this example. Fine. Do you know that kids 8 years old used to work in the coal mines. Less than a century ago. An exception from the rule proves nothing.
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@Habiloso
used to
In todays age, you'd be hard pressed to find a company that still treats workers that way thats still in business.

Unions had their use, but now they're gone, as too many companies have found that unions make them uncompetitive, while offering nothing in return.

There are tons of non union companies that are doing just fine, while treating their employess rather nicely. I work at one of those companies, and as Spock pointed out, I let my experience do the talking, not my age, which is why I am always employed.
@William Farrel
Once you get rid of the unions how long before we see 8 year olds in West Virginia loosing limbs in the mines. Take a guess.
Not to mention there are quite a few companies that mistreat employees right here at US. Coal industry is a good place to start looking at. Massey Energy anyone folks?
@Habiloso

Here's how Amazon treats its employees:
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/amazon/mc-allentown-amazon-complaints-20110917,0,6503103.story

And how about Walmart?
http://www.pbs.org/itvs/storewars/stores3.html

It would be better if you knew what you were talking about. Labor Unions undergo extensive scrutiny: Corruption isn't easy when the government is constantly looking over your shoulder. Here's just a little taste: http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/unions.htm
@mstrsfty Unions are one of the things wrong with this country. Unions promote low quality at a very high price. Unions attract the worst class of worker: Lazy jerks that feel entitled to a high wage, for minimal work.
@Rick_Kl

I am not from the USA, but I suspect that you comment is a rather broad and unfair generalisation.
@Habiloso no it is not a rather broad and unfair generalization. Unions served a purpose at one point, but they have long outlived their usefulness. there are plenty of low skilled workers that gravitate towards Union shops for a reason. High pay for low quality work. I have a friend that used to be a service writer at a dealer of one brand of domestic car. The things he saw would scare any thinking person away from that brand for life. there wee minor things (tools left in cars) and there were major things 9wrong, or missing parts (one time it was one of the motor mounts)Impact wrenches in the engine bay, with a section of air hose attached. The list is quite long. The thing that really scares me is the Union doesn???t see anything wrong with shipping a $45,000 pickup truck with half of the motor,and transmission, mounts missing (or missing bolts) These are things that can lead to a serious accident. But the Union cares more about the employee leaving a few minutes early, rather than finishing the job correctly.
@Rick_Kl
Let's say you remove unions today altogether. How many years before the labour conditions deteriorate to 18 century level?
Also no matter what you say your observations are very limited- you had a friend, etc., etc.. So it is a very broad generalisation on your part.
I have bad and good interactions with union workers. And I have no problem with well paid workers. I have a problem with poorly paid ones like those in "communist" China.
@Rick_Kl

Unions to this day can still serve a purpose. Though like many a business, it's hard to find one that fulfills it's intended purpose without some form of corruption.

If they protect the employees from corporate abuse in some fashion, then that's fine. But far, far too often the employees use the union to abuse employers.
@Rick_Kl I call bullsh1t on this.

Unions are one of the things wrong with this country.

Stop drinking the right wing kool aid for a minute and cough up some proof.

Unions promote low quality at a very high price.


Really? That is completely at odds with my own experience working for a union and working non union. In a non union environment it's quantity over quality, within the union it is quality and workmanship that is emphasized.

Unions attract the worst class of worker: Lazy jerks that feel entitled to a high wage, for minimal work.


Again this is completely at odds with my own experiences as it is far easier to - in the construction trades - to work for a non union company and do slipshod work than it is to work for a union company and get laid off for doing slipshod work.
@Rick_Kl And that's why some of the best new cars made today are American-branded and built in American factories by American union workers.

Keep on drinking that Koch Tea.
i just listened to this npr podcast today about foxconn...

Mike Daisey was a self-described "worshipper in the cult of Mac." Then he saw some photos from a new iPhone, taken by workers at the factory where it was made. Mike wondered: Who makes all my crap? He traveled to China to find out.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/454/mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory
@georgemovie
It's not just Apple. Foxconn makes components for Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc...
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And what percentage of people where you work...
John L. Ries Updated - 11th Jan
@baggins_z
...have threatened suicide over working conditions?

A couple of additional questions:

1. Am I correct that you are sypathetic to the employer in this case?
2. Should U.S. employers view Foxconn as a role model?

Reply to Baggins:

So let me rephrase: how much violence is there in your workplace? I suspect you of being sympathetic to Foxconn. I want to know why.
of the blog author. Three hundred sounds like a big number. Until you put it in context. In America, the tendency isn't toward suicide, but workplace violence in similar circumstances.
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John L. Ries Updated - 10th Jan
Annoying ZDNet malfunction
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"No suicide" pact?
John L. Ries 10th Jan
How do you enforce that, punish the families?

If the reports are correct, then Foxconn does have a major employee dissatisfaction problem and workers would appear to have few acceptable alternatives (otherwise, they'd leave).

I assume that the Communist-controlled union (there is no other kind in mainland China) supports the company's position.
You should listen to NPR more. They just had a monologue by a writer who went there, and interviewed the workers(as young as 13 yrs old). Due to hexane exposure they are only functional for about 10 years.
@machine geeezer The dude NEVER traveled to China, much less interviewed anybody. 100% of the pictures he used were STOCK photos.
@wackoae
Really? Provide any proof please?
of compressed air or fill your car's tank with gasoline.
Just think about it, you apple lovers keep this company in business. Buy more ipads & iphones. This company makes several parts for your iphone and ipad, even the polished glass you love so much. They make PC motherboards too but I'd never buy one.
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You may have no choice...
daftkey 11th Jan
@Nate_K

Nice distancing yourself there, bucko. If you're using a computer, phone, or electronic device of any kind, chances are something's been touched by a Foxconn worker. You can try to blame one (rather small but highly publicized) group here, but unless you live under a rock, you're hardly innocent.
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Dancing' wit da monkey
Robert Hahn 11th Jan
Erm, this particular incident happened at the XBox360 factory.
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@Robert Hahn
I've read other reports about this
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@Nate_K How about the Dell, HP, Toshiba, Nintendo, and other companies that use Foxconn to manufacture their parts? Nice try with the Apple hate.
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US labor unions are useless
WozNotWoz 11th Jan
At one time, they served a purpose: protect the worker. Today we have laws to protect the workers. You won't find an eight-year-old in a coal mine. Why? It's against the law.

I'm grateful to the unions for being instrumental in getting labor laws passed, but what are they doing now? Nothing but sucking money from companies and laborers and provide nothing in return. All the while, the union bosses live large and send money to their politician of choice for special favors.
@WozNotWoz Nothing but sucking money from companies and laborers and provide nothing in return. All the while, the CEO's and upper management live large and send money to their politician of choice for special favors.

There I fixed it for you.
http://www.hzlook.com/uploadfile/2011/0220/20110220022600372.jpg

Check it out, ppl r coming in droves, because Foxconn's pay is above industry standard in China.

Our supposedly objective media chooses ignore facts like "overtime promissory note" is only for people who wish to work overtime and qualify for higher salary in contract. IMHO it is logically insufficient to blame Foxconn for the 2010 suicides which mostly influenced by relationship breakup and financial difficulties (one jumper had gambling debt) unrelated to work. Fact is suicide is caused by mental illness, and blaming Foxconn for FEWER suicides at their factory is logically insufficient. Suicide rate at Foxconn factory is not only below average in China, but is lower than US college campus, and a fraction of the US military.

There were a dozen photos of the Wuhan protest, I can tell you not one of them seem resolved to jump. The one photo of people on the ledge shows people looking down at airbags being deployed by the fire department.

It's clear to me they were holding the company hostage in order to get compensation not in their contract. I mean who'd get severance if they quit in US?
300 less unemployed. The only issue here is the bad pr. Im sure they are working on a way to prevent future acts from becoming publicly known. Foxconn keep american $ pouring in. 3000 or 30000 wouldnt be enough to alter things.
I think the original intention of unions is good, giving workers a collective voice that can be heard. We all know the police force has instances of corruption and abuse - does that mean we get rid of the whole force. We also know big business can be unethical and corrupt - does that mean we give up on capitalism. What I am saying is, lets apply continuous improvement.
It's time for everyone to stop using Foxconn.

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