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How many Flash Player updates is too many?

By | October 10, 2011, 3:00am PDT

Summary: The single most common complaint I hear about Flash Player is that there are too many updates. But are there really? I couldn’t find a comprehensive list, so I made my own. Guess how many updates Adobe has delivered this year alone?

You want to set off a firestorm of comments from angry and frustrated PC users? Just write about Adobe’s Flash Player.

Last week I wrote about a pair of new security studies that emphasize the importance of updating widely used third-party products like Adobe’s Flash Player and Reader to avoid becoming a victim of drive-by malware installations. I was prepared for, shall we say, full and frank feedback. (That’s the euphemism politicians use when they really mean a knock-down, drag-out screaming match.) And I wasn’t disappointed.

The single most common complaint I heard was about the frequency of updates for the Flash Player, and what a pain in the rear the update process is, especially for Windows users. But one thing I have never seen is an actual count of just how often the Flash Player gets updated. That list is not in Wikipedia, it’s not on Adobe’s product pages for Flash runtimes, and I couldn’t find anyone else who had done the work.

So I decided to do it myself, pulling together what I believe is a complete list, using a variety of sources.* (If you have corrections or additions, feel free to leave them in the Talkback section or send me a note.)

Flash Player 10  was released in October 2008. I can’t find any details about updates to the 10.0 release, so my census starts with version 10.1, which was released exactly 16 months ago. All of the following updates are for Windows; you’ll find minor variations in version numbers and release dates if you look at other platforms, although the general timeline is the same.

  • Flash Player 10.1.53.64 – June 10, 2010 (10.1 initial release)
  • Flash Player 10.1.82.76 – August 10, 2010
  • Flash Player 10.1.85.3 – September 20, 2010
  • Flash Player 10.1.102.64 – November 4, 2010
  • Flash Player 10.2.152.26 – February 8, 2011 (10.2 initial release)
  • Flash Player 10.2.152.32 – March 8, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.2.153.1 – March 21, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.2.159.1 – April 17, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.181.14 – May 12, 2011 (10.3 initial release)
  • Flash Player 10.3.181.16 (Windows only) – May 31, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.181.22/23 – June 5, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.181.26 – June 14, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.181.34 – June 28, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.183.5 – August 9, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.183.7 – August 26, 2011
  • Flash Player 10.3.183.10 – September 21, 2011
  • Flash Player 11.0.1.152  – October 3, 2011 (11.0 initial release)

Wow, that is indeed a lot of updates. By my count, the Flash Player for Windows has been updated 17 times in the 16 months since Flash Player 10.1 was officially released. The pace has picked up this year, with 13 individual updates in the past eight months alone.

Most of the updates address security issues. (One noteworthy exception is the May 31 update to version 10.3.181.14, which fixed a horrible bug with Internet Explorer 9 and hardware-accelerated graphics.) Several of them were released to address zero-day vulnerabilities that were being used in targeted attacks by malware authors.

June 2011 was a particularly busy month, with three separate updates in a little over three weeks. In both March and August of this year, Adobe pushed out two updates.

In addition to sheer volume, there’s the nuisance factor of the updating process, which is not automatic, typically requires closing all browser windows, and then demands multiple clicks to complete the update process. If you use Firefox and Internet Explorer, you need to install different updates for each browser (Google Chrome incorporates Flash Player directly into the browser and has its own auto-update mechanism.) For techies and IT pros who own or support multiple PCs, the process is compounded by the number of PCs under management.

So what are the alternatives to this tedious process for consumers and small businesses? The best option currently available, in my opinion, is one of several third-party auto-updaters that handle this work. I recommend two:

  • Ninite Updater costs $10 per year for a single machine, with volume discounts for multiple PCs that cut the annual cost per machine down to as little as $4. It supports 92 apps, including the frequently targeted Adobe Reader, Flash Player, and Java JRE.
  • Secunia Personal Software Inspector (PSI) is free for personal use. It requires a bit more interaction than Ninite’s product, but it does an excellent job of updating programs after you make a few selections.

I would love to see Adobe release an updater that isn’t so intrusive. Give me an updater that works like Windows Update, where I give it permission in advance to download and install updates as soon as they’re available. That type of utility would offer a tremendous improvement in security for friends and family.

One thing I don’t expect to see any time soon is an option to receive updates from Adobe and other third-party software developers through the Microsoft Update infrastructure. That’s certainly possible, even likely, with apps developed for Windows 8 and sold through Microsoft’s app store. But it won’t happen for conventional Windows apps.

Meanwhile, anyone want to take bets on when the first Flash 11 update will arrive?

*Sources:

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Thank you fellow Linux fans!!!!!
ryeckley82 12th Oct
Hey, thank you Linux fans for pointing out the repository of software; I love it. I think I'll take a cue from you all and remove flash from my system once and for all. It crashes my browser whether I'm in GNOME or KDE. Don't get me started on Windoze ... I don't wanna go HAM on Microsoft. Bottom line ... Microsoft ALREADY learns from the linux community, thus they are borrowing creativity (KDE 3.0 menu is similar to Windows XP menu).
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The problem...
wright_is 10th Oct
Is that Adobe promised quarterly updates for Flash, unless there were serious security issues that warranted an out of cycle patch.

That means we should have had 5 "planned", but instead we have had, maybe, 3 updates that could coincide with planned release dates and updates and 14 OMFGs!

On the one hand, it is good news that Adobe are starting to take security seriously and release patches when there are critical problems with their platform, on the other hand, it is very worrying how often those "out of cycle" critical patches turn up.

It is the main reason I have Flash disabled on all of my macines by default and enable it on a case by case basis (ClickToFlash or FlashBlock).

We expect Windows to update monthly and it generally does so, quietly, in the background, and reports that a restart is necessary, when it has finished.

But throw in Adobe Reader, Java, FileZilla, Firefox and a few other third party apps and it seems like you are being prompted for updates on a nearly daily basis.

If Microsoft would open their updater technology to other software companies to deliver their updates, it would be a lot quieter on the desktop front - and possibly safer and quicker; on low powered machines, I generally remove the autoupdater apps that run in the background and clog up memory and processor cycles (my last client was still running on P4 machines with 256MB RAM, trying getting Flash and Java updaters and AV software to run nicely in that and still be able to work!).
@wright_is Adobe Flash has been and still is one of the most used vectors for attacking computers. It also is used all over the web. That is part of the reason why it patched on a monthly basis.

Also other companies have started to help find bugs in flash player and other adobe products. Google donated some engineers and a huge amount of time to find bugs in flash player and help fix them.

Also you would have to consider bandwidth issues if Microsoft allowed other companies to use there updater technology that can get pretty expensive quickly with all the updates that occur on a monthly basis.
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@wright_is
I don't like multiple auto-updaters running on my PC either (I also disable them).
There should be a section in the Window Update window for 3rd party updater services.

Each service could have a check box to enable/disable it.
After Windows has checked for and installed its update(s) it would activate each updater, one at a time.
Each updater would retrieve and install its update(s) and then be shut off.
This would be repeated until all the enabled updaters had completed their checks.

Microsoft wouldn't supply the updates, they would come from the companies who provided the updaters.
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@lehnerus2000

It should also be possible for any user to install security updates to programs that are already installed without an admin password. We're not talking about installing a brand new program, but updating one that is already there.

It is really ridiculous that in 2011 75% of the applications on a PC are out of date and you can't update them because IT doesn't have time to come over and enter the admin password.
@lehnerus2000 Please just admit you want the Linux updating model... please? wink
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@jgm@

I admit that my suggestion sounds very similar to Linux updating.

The Linux update system work well for programs that are in the repository.
If you manually install programs, you still have to manually update those programs.

Therefore you are no better off, than if you exclusively used MS software. happy
@lehnerus2000 The only problem I see with auto updating for 3rd party software, would be for Satellite Internet users that have a max download of 300 to 350 megabytes a day.

If you go over that amount, you lose your intenet for at least 24 hours, unless your willing to pay an extra fee to have it restored.

And unfortunately for some like myself, this is not by choice, DSL and cable are not available for my area, even though I have a business.

There is an unlimited time, which I believe is between 2:30 am to 6:00 am, but that would mean having to run back to the shop and make sure the updates took place.

Even though I try to make sure the updates for Windows take place at 3:00 am, 1 rain/snow/wind storm and we have a lost signal, and then the internet doesn't always resume by itself, sometimes I have to reset the router manually.

Satellite Sucks....
@wright_is
Using Microsoft's updater is an excellent idea for third party vendors to submit updates. It would provide one safe and secure place to receive updates. it could force some kind of integrity to the updater.
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@wright_is As long as updates are needed to fix security holes to prevent low life hackers from compromising my computer I am happy to install them. They usually only take a moment or two to complete. I don't see a problem
@mongrel1999 There isn't a "problem" as such, it is just annoying having update pop-ups nearly every day for one app or another.
@mongrel1999 Okay, look at it this way how many actively exploited zero day attacks have there been? So that's how often Adobe Flash exposed your computer. Not such a benign picture is it? As Ed says these are increasing in their frequency.

Flash is a disaster.
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I've stopped using it
Ross44 10th Oct
It has often been a slow hard pain and this time I can't get the updating system to work - other than (after a struggle) to get back to the version I already had

Long been fed up with how long it was taking
Kept reading about vulnerabilities

The sooner it is displaced by alternatives the better

Adobe should think about what all this does to its reputation

Especially after problems with security and bloat with its pdf reader. Would I try a big Adobe application first if there was an alternative??

I appreciate that there are people at Adobe trying hard, but it can't be that the overall corporate system is right. Adobe you kicked me long enough and hard enough - I get the message
@Ross44 ... Adobe hasn't cared about their reputation for some time now. If they did, they would not expect theier user base to also be their beta testers. They are all about the benjamins...
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RE: I stopped using it
brike2001@... Updated - 10th Oct
Fine. How do you watch movies, see web sites built with Flash, fill out most forms, etc? It does have too many updates and upgrades, but it is a necessary application. I hope something comes up that can compete with it, so $Adobe$ feels the heat and lower the price, make better products.
@brike2001@... I don't know about @Ross44, I just don't do anything that requires flash on my main machine. I also won't run Adobe Acrobat Reader on my system. I DECIDE when I do updates; I don't want more crapware running in the background taking up cycles. I can't find a way to run the programs without the autoupdater and I won't tolerate it.
@brike2001@... Flash is NOT a video player. Flash is a development platform.

There are very few "video" websites that require Flash today. Most use a Flash player as default but it is not required. For example, YouTube will work just fine (and more efficiently) on an HTML 5 compatible browser without Flash. Same thing for Hulu, Metacafe and lost of the top video websites.

FACT: Flash is NOT required to play a video.
@brike2001@... While I haven't tried any myself, I belive there are alternatives for PDF's, such as Foxit reader, etc. Do a quick search on Google, and I believe you'll find some of them are free...
I think Microsoft could help here, and potentially offer an auto-update API in Windows 8 that would allow security updates for third-party apps to be delivered via Windows Update. Apple is sort-of moving towards this with the Mac App Store, as you can download updates for all of the apps you have purchased from it using the App Store application.

Provided any updates are merely to fix security flaws or general bugs, I don't see this being a major problem if they are installed silently using minimal user input.
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@nrturner

Happened for years in Linux, it's called repositories
@Alan Smithie Good point. It's nice to have all 3 apps for Linux update so painlessly.
@goombawa wink Try your entire system, from core OS components to all third-party programs.
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It doesn't help that you have to click on I agree check box for every little update. Seriously? They could go a long way to make the update process more seamless. It also doesn't have the common sense to minimize itself and just go away if successful. Program updates only need to notify me if there is a failure. If it's successful, just get out of the way! The same philosophy Microsoft started in Windows 7 and is improving on in Windows 8 certainly applies here. Simplify!
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@danwdoo: Multiply the problem by 3 when you add in Acrobat and the PDF Reader, each with its own patch cycle.
@destockwell

I really like how Reader 8 has no update roll-up package. That way when you install a fresh copy you have to down load and install each update 1 at a time. The really nice part is that some of them require reboots. makes the whole thing a joy.
@destockwell
I've long since moved off Adobe's PDF reader to Foxit and haven't looked back! Adobe's "speed launch" (aka our program is so slow and bloated we have to pre-load it to make load times tolerable was the last straw for me!)
@danwdoo ... it would also eliminate the opportunity for Adobe to install the Google Toolbar, Bing Toolbar, and a host of other opt out tools the user has too uncheck before they dl the update. Adobe would miss the money they care so much about.
@dwhipple ... Bingo! Each update is an opportunity to make a few bucks, so they will never be convinced to stop this crazy updating until they have ruined the company.
@dwhipple
I haven't seen this, but I don't run reader so that may be why.
2 words my friend- Flash Block!
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Contributr
I need Flash Player for some sites
Ed Bott Updated - 10th Oct
@Hasam1991

Flash Block is fine, but it's unrealistic to expect anyone except a fanatic to do without Flash Player completely.
@Ed Bott

I'm not so sure about the "fanatic" part. I've shown FlashBlock (well, Click2Flash) to a bunch of people and they are all now using it. It's quite amazing how the browsing experience changes when Flash movies aren't allowed to load on their own. The ability to play many flash based videos directly via html5 (when the underlying video is h.264) is nice as well.
@Ed Bott ... or an Apple user -- unless you're saying they are fanatics.
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You miss the point
Ed Bott Updated - 10th Oct
@dwhipple and @tk_77

Flash Block gives the ability to selectively enable or disable Flash content from playing on specific sites. It does not eliminate the need to update the Flash Player runtime. Which is the point of this post.

Now do you understand why I say Flash Block is not relevant to this post?
@Ed Bott Then color me a fanatic. I HATE, HATE, HATE Adobe for what they've done -- turned a powerful product and internet standard into a way to try to take control of my computer. I just won't tolerate it. There needs to be a way to let ME control the software, not the other way around. It was a pain at first, but now I'm used to it. I won't install Acrobat Reader, either. Too painful to have the auto-update program to deal with. I'll use FoxIt.
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CobraA1 10th Oct
"The single most common complaint I heard was about the frequency of updates for the Flash Player, and what a pain in the rear the update process is, especially for Windows users."

I thought they recently made it automatic?

In any case, yeah I'm using PSI. Highly recommended.

And there's no such thing as "too much" IMO, unless they're doing it daily.

One thing is certain: Quarterly was simply too few. Several months is way too long for malware to spread. Monthly is good enough, and seems to be the industry standard.
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I don't think there is such thing as "too many". I'd rather have "too many" than "too few".

That said, I can't wait for the day we can all get rid of Flash.
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@Cylon Centurion

+1
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My biggest complaint is that it only seems to check when I log on. My wife's laptop hasn't been logged off or rebooted for months, so I'm sure she's out-of-date on Flash updates.
@spivonious My home laptop is always on and I always get a message in the icon tray, when an update is available. This usually happens when I "wake up the computer".
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Three alternatives
Rabid Howler Monkey Updated - 10th Oct
On Windows, use Google's Chrome browser to visit your Flash-based web sites. Both Flash Player and a simple PDF reader are embedded in the Chrome browser and Google transparently provides updates for both, along with those for Chrome itself.

Use desktop Linux for web browsing (e.g., an old PC, desktop Linux virtual machine). Think of it as an internet appliance. Most of the distros do a very good job of keeping Flash Player updated via Adobe's download site. And as for 0-day exploits, with less than 2% of the desktop market share, the malware miscreants could not care less about targeting desktop Linux users. Meaning that you are much safer.

Or buy an Apple Mac.
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RE: How many Flash Player updates is too many?
Cylon Centurion Updated - 10th Oct
@Rabid Howler Monkey

1. - Nope. I uninstalled Chrome this past weekend when I discovered it was impossible to block YouTube ads.

2. - Again, no. desktop Linux doesn't offer consumers much of anything. Linux apps are nothing more than weekend projects, and no Office support = A no go.

3. - Do you have the $2k for one? No? Okay, then.
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RE: How many Flash Player updates is too many?
Rabid Howler Monkey Updated - 10th Oct
@Cylon Centurion

1. I am not partial to Google's Chrome browser either. But, clearly, many users like it as it will soon be surpassing Mozilla Firefox's market share.

2. Both Mozilla Firefox and Opera run quite nicely on the Linux desktop. Neither are weekend projects. (A note to DTS: Opera is proprietary.)

3. $2k? Check out Apple's Mac Mini and MacBook products. And look for refurbished ones at Apples online store periodically as there are good deals from time to time. And I forgot to add, the Mac is still much safer than Windows.
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Or...
TheWerewolf 10th Oct
@Cylon Centurion

You could install Unbuntu into a VM and keep it just for these kind of things...

Not that that's a great solution either - especially if you're not a Linux fan, but it does negate most of those complaints.
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@Cylon Centurion (aka frylock86, Samuel Fry)

Linux works fine, try expanding your horizons
@Cylon Centurion
Except when it can.

https://adblockplus.org/development-builds/experimental-adblock-plus-for-chrome-builds-available-with-better-blocking

That is the same Firefox Adblock plus developer so it is legit.
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I can now understand why Mr. Jobs didn't allow this software on the iPads - Thank you! I'm an IT person overseeing a small network ... just getting 50 people to understand that they need to install the update is a challenge, can't imagine what it would be like for larger networks...
As far as the frequency of the updates, that would not bother me per se, it's not knowing how the update is going to affect the programs that require Flash Player, that is what keeps worrying me about ANY update.

For example: I use Windows 7 Pro .. and had Windows XP Home Edition prior. I know of professionals who still use Windows XP Pro and had calls from them saying "I posted a video on YouTube, and for some reason, now it won't play in FULL SCREEN mode !" Lo and behold, neither will it on mine, including Win 7 or Win XP... Well what went wrong? It played fine a week ago BEFORE an Adobe Flash Player UPDATE !! Sure enough, the new version starting with the 10.xxx series will not work on YouTube on most full screen videos!! WHY!?! Why have they not corrected this issue? I have seen many complaints about this.

So I had to resort on re-installing the previous 9.xxx version on BOTH Internet Explorer x.x and Fox Mozilla to be able to view YouTube (including my own posting) videos in FULL SCREEN again !! Since then I have blocked ALL 10.x series updates.

Not related to this topic, but again about updates is Microsoft Silverlight! It used to work fine with Netflix videos on Internet Explorer x.x .. now it wants to keep reinstalling itself even though it is already installed, and will not run Netflix on my Win 7 Pro. But it works FINE on Fox Mozilla browser.

Why don't these software gurus fully check out their products on the most recent platforms before they give us cause for aggrevation with their buggy updates !?!?!?

My 2 cents worth !
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my best friend's mom makes $77 an hour on the computer. She has been out of job for 9 months but last month her check was $7487 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read about it here "MakeCash5.c om"
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@Glenda21974310 Your mom told me you don't know what you're talking about and she wishes you'd never been born.
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Thank you fellow Linux fans!!!!!
ryeckley82 12th Oct
Hey, thank you Linux fans for pointing out the repository of software; I love it. I think I'll take a cue from you all and remove flash from my system once and for all. It crashes my browser whether I'm in GNOME or KDE. Don't get me started on Windoze ... I don't wanna go HAM on Microsoft. Bottom line ... Microsoft ALREADY learns from the linux community, thus they are borrowing creativity (KDE 3.0 menu is similar to Windows XP menu).

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