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What's so smart about the iPhone?

By | January 17, 2007, 6:55am PST

Summary: I spent an hour at the Windows Mobile pavilion at CES looking at Smartphones. I would choose any of them over the iPhone, as would just about anyone I met with at CES. Here’s why the iPhone is not a smart choice.

I spent last week at CES looking at gadgets, gadgets, and more gadgets. Not just on the show floor, but in the hands of people using them to get real work done.

Coincidentally, three days into the week, in another part of the world, Apple announced two new products that managed to pin the hype meter at about 16.7 on a scale of 10.

I'm baffled. Yes, the iPhone and AppleTV are pretty. But are they really what people want?

I'll get to AppleTV later this week, but for now let's talk about phones. I spent an hour at the Windows Mobile pavilion at CES looking at Smartphones. I would choose any of them over the iPhone, as would just about anyone I met with at CES.

The biggest missing piece in the iPhone is its ability to sync calendars and e-mail effortlessly. I could not have survived CES without my trusty Cingular 8125 Smartphone. I was able to keep my Outlook calendar and contacts up to date on a device that fits in my pocket, including detailed directions and backgrounders. I have the Smartphone set to sync e-mail as well.

And I wasn't alone. About two-thirds of the people I met with were also using Smartphones and were regularly checking e-mail and schedules. I saw at least a dozen different Windows Mobile-based devices in use this week and didn't hear a single complaint about their operation.

Are any of us going to switch to an iPhone? I doubt it. I read the specs carefully, and I can't imagine why anyone in business would want this device, which is pretty but ultimately dumb. As far as I can tell, the sync process for PCs is a tortured two-step that requires me to sync my local Outlook calendar with iTunes and then sync iTunes with my device, all over a physical connection. You want your e-mail and calendar pushed from your Exchange Server to your phone? Then you do not want an iPhone.

Apple's biggest hit of all time is the iPod, so it's no wonder they want to graft a phone onto it. Halo effect, and all that. But here are a few of the deficiencies I can see at a quick glance:

The keyboard. It took me a few months to get used to retrieving voicemail using the soft keypad on the 8125, and if you're heavily into e-mail anything short of a real keyboard with tactile buttons is going to be an endless source of frustration for you. At CES, I saw Smartphones with all variations of keypads, including slide-out QWERTY keyboards, Blackberry-style thumb-driven pads, and softpads. Take your pick.

The speed. No Wi-Fi, no 3G?  No 3G? Browsing the web over an Edge connection is insanely not-so-great. But I'm sure that the hourglass will look stunning.

Expandability. I can choose from a large library of Windows Mobile add-ons. If I can't find one I like, I can write my own. With Apple, not so much.

The provider. You can choose any provider you want for the iPhone, as long as it's Cingular. You'll also need to sign up for a two-year contract to get the right to pay the full retail price. By contrast, every provider has Windows Mobile-based Smartphones, and you can buy unlocked phones if you want freedom of choice.

As for music, any Smartphone includes Windows Media Player, and adding music to it is fairly easy with Windows Media Player. The 2GB mini-SD card in my 8125 holds about 500 songs and syncs automatically when I plug it in. It even works with white earbuds, although I prefer a better set of headphones.

And let's not forget that this will be a 1.0 product for Apple when it comes out in six months. For those who have not escaped Steve's reality distortion field, that means it will certainly have issues. Remember OS X 1.0? Remember iTunes 7.0? Remember the first-generation iPods? If you must get an iPhone, get the extended warranty. By contrast, the Smartphone platform has been under continuous development for years. It's reliable and expandable.

Ultimately, the iPhone is stark proof of the fundamental difference between the Mac and Windows worlds. In the Mac world, you get one man's vision, beautifully designed, expensive, and maybe, just maybe in sync with your needs. In the Windows world, you get an enormous ecosystem where you can choose from dozens of different devices using the form factors and feature sets you prefer, at a variety of price points.

I know which world I prefer.

Update 18-Jan 4:15PM PST. In the Talkback section, Scott Mace makes an excellent observation:

Sync-via-dock limitation is the big problem
Few posters here have noted that Apple execs ruled out any sort of iPhone sync other than at a dock. The issue of ease of sync/docking with Mac vs. sync/docking with Windows/Outlook pales in comparison to the lack of sync-over-the-Net. As Ed points out in one of his own comments, sync needs to happen immediately, not when one gets back to the office. Shame on Apple for not allowing sync-over-the-Net; double-shame for not even letting iPhone users install software that could provide that function. To have a calendar in 2007 that requires physical docking for sync is just backward thinking, be it for consumers or for enterprises.

More from Scott here.

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Super Mac 1st Feb 2007
I agree totally with robbyx. I just recently switched from Windows to Apple, and
couldn't be happier. I spend more time doing what I want on my MacBook Pro, and
less time doing maintenance. Apple just works for me. iPhone seems like it will do
everything I need a phone to do. Everything else, I can do on my computer.

Everything I have ever had with MS has crashed, "repeatedly!" Cingular 2125,
8125, 4 HP Laptops (software reasons), Pocket PCs, even the XBOX and XBOX360.
The only problem with my Mac?, more time due to not having to do maintenance.
Apple isn't for everyone, but until you work or play with one for what it is, I guess
jealousy is the next best thing.

And as for as business goes, I use my MacBook Pro for everything even though I
have a company Windows computer next to me. I only use the Windows for emails
to other employees on the network. I manage information for over 500 personnel.
I have received multiple awards for the work I've done, even promotion. How's that
for business? The Mac made that too easy.

Anyway, the point is, if iPhone can SYNC with MY MacBook Pro like iPod does with
iTunes (that's called RELIABLE to you windows users), that will make it smarter
than any phone or mobile device, past or present.

MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo, 2.33 GHz, 15.4", (best laptop in the world baby)
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You are so free to make your own choice
YinToYourYang-22527499 17th Jan 2007
Apple-hater writes: "will queue like lemmings to buy this but it will be because of the
"poser" effect"

Funnty coming from a person who's choices are most likely made by his boss. I
choose iPhone for lack of anyone telling I have to use Microsoft products and so I'm a
lemming. And what do your choices say about you?
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I like your style
xuniL_z 17th Jan 2007
I
choose iPhone for lack of anyone telling I have to use Microsoft products


You are not doing yourself any favors with comments like this. This only reinforces your "lemming" status and sounds like you would buy anything Apple just to spite Microsoft, even if they have a better product. Microsoft has a smart phone with multiple providers, twice the functionality, same form factor and 1/3 the cost, but you buy the iPhone. Ok, hey I think the rest of the apple zealots are heading toward the sea, you better catch up.
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bportlock 17th Jan 2007
Apple-hater writes: "will queue like lemmings to buy this but it will be because of the 'poser' effect"

Saying that the fashion victims will be amongst the early adopters of the iPhone does not make me an Apple-hater. It does however say how YOU intend to slant your reply.

"Funnty coming from a person who's choices are most likely made by his boss."

You wish! I decide all technology matters for this company - that's my job.

"And what do your choices say about you?"

They say that I put the company's continuing profitablity before the need to have staff swanning around with the latest "posey" phone that costs a fortune but does very little and does not integrate into the company's existing technology infrastructure.
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"They say that I put the company's continuing profitablity before the need to have
staff swanning around with the latest "posey" phone that costs a fortune but does
very little and does not integrate into the company's existing technology
infrastructure."

Why is everyone so focused on the enterprise? This isn't Apple's target market.
You're no doubt correct that the iPhone isn't right for your company. But does
that make it a bad device? Just because it doesn't integrate into your company's
infrastructure doesn't mean it won't give someone else exactly what he or she is
looking for.

If Microsoft actually innovated, perhaps they'd receive this kind of buzz when a
new product is announced. There's so much jealousy coming from the PC world.
If the iPhone sucks, don't buy one. Who the heck cares? The consumer is
perfectly capable of educating himself about features before making a choice.
Remember, this is about having a CHOICE. Buy a Windows Mobile device if it
better suits your needs.

I just don't get the need PC wonks have to rip this thing apart. Yeah, there are
other devices out there with more features. Do you get this worked up over
whose microwave is better or whose washing machine does a better job at
laundry? It's a friggin phone for goodness sakes.
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You have to ask why?
xuniL_z 17th Jan 2007
I think the main reason people feel this product fell really short is because it's a mobile platform and not just a phone, or music player. It's a mobile digital device. OS X had been making some strides toward acceptance into the workplace. They have put a lot of work into making it an economically good choice for IT in place of running windows clients. So when the iPhone came out and didn't entertain the enterprise at all, I think that was shocking to many who follow the industry. Has Apple raised the white flag to Microsoft by this move? That is in terms of the enterprise? I don't think so, but the iPhone is perplexing. You know the server products Apple has and what they are working on I suspect. They still seem to be solidly looking for a place in a server room, and worker's desk, near you! So why all the lack of features for the workplace?
Ultimately I think Apple sees digital video arena as it's place in a new IT coming around the bend and maybe they have things in the works with Google under wraps as we speak. But this phone surely didn't seem to even want to catch the business buyer's eye. The slower wi-fi choice, the limited provider choice(one) etc.
You think they are only a consumer electronics company now?
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fuzzy2k 18th Jan 2007

You think they are only a consumer electronics company now?


Apple has positioned itself as a consumer electronics company for quite a while now, since maybe the 80s even. Recently, if you paid attention, you noticed that they even removed "Computer" from the corporate identity.

Granted, many industries still use the Mac quite a bit - Graphic Design, web design, publishing, video production, music and audio production and post production in several of these categories are some that I have personal experience with.

But really, the Mac is the computer for the rest of us. Many people will buy this phone for whatever reasons they pick a phone, and some will even use it in their business. Bagging on it because it isn't the product you want is a bit silly, and rather beside the point. It wasn't aimed at that market, and so does not hit the bullet points you think it should in order to appeal to that marklet. duh.

lol

Criticizing the iPhone for not being a top corporate product pick is a bit like saying a fish is inferior because you have more leet skills on your skateboard, especially when that fish could surpass your shredding skills by June.
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xuniL_z 18th Jan 2007
I totally hear you about the skateboard analogies. That was awesome. I mean, like, when you said it, like it was clear and stuff. Duh. I thought i was pointing out it was somewhat surprising since Apple is still trying to get the Mac into the workplace, working on server technology, business traveler aimed notebooks etc. But, like you just made it all crystal clear man, thanks. I was like so wrong.
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It's simple
frgough 17th Jan 2007
None of the PC geeks can get a girl up to their apartment to see their new Dell, Windows Mobile Smartphone or Zune.
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Really?
honeybl 18th Jan 2007
Not all "PC Geeks" are male. I'm a PC geekette (that means "female" for the rest of you). Such ad hominem attacks only mean that you have no argument that you can successfully back up with facts, so you choose to insult to keep your own inadequacies from showing.

Apple computers have *never* been known to be the optimum machine for business, nor have they ever really tried to make it so. With the exception of audio and visual-based industries, Apple computers have never really been adopted as the machine for business processes. Either the business-oriented software wasn't available, was too expensive, or just wasn't very good for business users to adopt the Apple as a business machine. The same will probably hold true for the iPhone. It will be a big hit with the "hipsters" and teens/tweens (Mummy, Dahddy, I want an iPhone and I want it NOW! per Veruca Salt) but it will NOT be heavily adopted by the business world due to it's lack of business-centric capabilities. So, as Apple so cleverly does, it will be marketed to those who want to be "hip" and "stylish" (see the iPod ads), while a complete market segment will be ignored. It's always been this way with Apple. Should we expect no less?
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Shows what YOU know
bportlock 17th Jan 2007
"I just don't get the need PC wonks have to rip this thing apart."

If you think I'm a "PC wonk" or a Windoze fanboy you haven't been reading these fora much.
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Super Mac 1st Feb 2007
I agree totally with robbyx. I just recently switched from Windows to Apple, and
couldn't be happier. I spend more time doing what I want on my MacBook Pro, and
less time doing maintenance. Apple just works for me. iPhone seems like it will do
everything I need a phone to do. Everything else, I can do on my computer.

Everything I have ever had with MS has crashed, "repeatedly!" Cingular 2125,
8125, 4 HP Laptops (software reasons), Pocket PCs, even the XBOX and XBOX360.
The only problem with my Mac?, more time due to not having to do maintenance.
Apple isn't for everyone, but until you work or play with one for what it is, I guess
jealousy is the next best thing.

And as for as business goes, I use my MacBook Pro for everything even though I
have a company Windows computer next to me. I only use the Windows for emails
to other employees on the network. I manage information for over 500 personnel.
I have received multiple awards for the work I've done, even promotion. How's that
for business? The Mac made that too easy.

Anyway, the point is, if iPhone can SYNC with MY MacBook Pro like iPod does with
iTunes (that's called RELIABLE to you windows users), that will make it smarter
than any phone or mobile device, past or present.

MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo, 2.33 GHz, 15.4", (best laptop in the world baby)
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Iphone
GULAMKHATRI 17th Jan 2007
i am user of windows pc and mac osx (both) , i using pc from last 10 years but in fab
2006 i switched to mac " mac mini core duo 1.66 " and now after almost used 1 year
i can say mac is thousand times better then win xp.I now using pc win xp only for
autocad its not yet on mac !!! if they make for mac i will go for 24 " imac so please
wait for iphone i sure its too sexxxy as all imac , macbook, mac mini, ipods and hope
its with near 1 ghz cpu cheeer up !!!
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Be careful making such admissions around here
YinToYourYang-22527499 17th Jan 2007
It could mark you as a lemming or an employee of Apple or a Jobsian kool-aid
drinker. Obviously someone without the ability to make a rational decision and who
needs institutional help. Possibly one of Bill Gates' world health charities could help
your mental condition.
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You left one out
dave95. 17th Jan 2007
He could be branded a zealot by the true zealots around here
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Nice gesture, but too late
xuniL_z 17th Jan 2007
That person is obviously inebriated with the Apple kool-aid.
Why would someone wait for the iPhone when there are phones right now that have twice the functionality? Leave it to an Apple Zealot to allow Jobs to make them fall in love with a logo. He could sell small cases of fecal matter with an Apple logo and the Apple zealots would be clamoring for it.
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Waiting and wishing
robbyx 17th Jan 2007
Perhaps someone will wait for the iPhone because he WANTS to??? Because the
phones out there now have crap interfaces and are too hard to configure and use for
the average person (not most of the folks lurking here)?

It must really p*ss off you Microsoft zealots to see Apple's sales up year over year,
Windows Vista land with a colossal thud, and the Zune, well, talk about a small case
of fecal matter with a logo on it...
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I hear you.
xuniL_z 17th Jan 2007
I'm not sure why someone, typically someone that complains about how MS is "after your wallet" , can justify spending 600 smackers on a Not-so-Smart Phone. I dont' care if you buy a case of them just to show MS you have a mind of your own!
If I had 600.00 to throw away on a phone that won't work where I live on top of a dozen or more other weaknesses, I think I'd consider giving it to charity.
This is the typical Apple Zealot respone, trying to turn it around and make it about microsoft users. I will probably get Vista at some point, cause I simply don't like OS X and have no desire to buy 2 OS's to get my work done. Their hardware is just not that good anymore. Not that it was ever worth it's price but now their manufacturing is no better than any other OEM. In fact I'd put Toshiba above the Mac hardware in quality.
I'm not running out to get Vista, but I guess it takes to hear a "THUD" when the OS hasn't even been released to retail yet and the business sales are doing great! Go zealot go!
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Rick_K 17th Jan 2007
Why would someone wait for the iPhone when there are phones right now that
have twice the functionality?


Please explain your "twice the functionality" comment. Are you saying that
because it doesn't sync with outlook and MS calendar is lacks functionality? Just
because it syncs with iCal and Address book means it's less functional? Just
because it has Safari as it's web browser is less functional? Or is it simply because
it doesn't use an Ms branded OS that it's less functional? Personally I won't be
buying one (no way I'm going to use cingular), but I won't try and stop anyone else
from buying one. Who knows what will happen in a year or two, Apple may sell an
unlocked phone that anyone can use. No one knows enough at this point.
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In a word...
justanitguy 17th Jan 2007
Are you saying that
because it doesn't sync with outlook and MS calendar is lacks functionality? Just
because it syncs with iCal and Address book means it's less functional? Just
because it has Safari as it's web browser is less functional?

In a word...Yes

What is Apple's market share? 5%? What is the percentage of people who use Cingular, because that is the ONLY provider that you can use. I don't know about you, but I will NEVER use AT&T again, so I guess that I will NOT be using an i(diot)Phone.
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Hear's your answer.
xuniL_z 17th Jan 2007
Please explain your "twice the functionality" comment


I can't get cingular here. So for me, ANY phone that can use verizon or sprint is twice as good. As for the rest, I think the service provider is huge, but if I must: the slower wi-fi, which is huge. The lack of programmability is huge to me. I can write code quite easily for windows CE. I don't think touchscreen for EVERYThING is the way to go. I have touchscreen equimpent now, such as my Sony camcorder, and it can be much more difficult than buttons or toggle keys. Need I go on? I have the feeling no matter what I list, you will tell me that it was never Apple's intent to have that, and it's unnecessary.
So I guess our opinion of "Smart" varies is all. (even though it's not necessarily called a smart phone in their literature).
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Hmmmm,
maldain 18th Jan 2007
So just because it's not useful to you nobody else on the planet should use it? Seems to be fairly short sighted to me. While I think Cingular pretty much sucks rocks as a phone service in my area that doesn't mean that iPhones wouldn't be useful in certain areas. Besides iPhones seems to be targeted more at the consumer market than the business market.
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Please read more carefully
xuniL_z 18th Jan 2007
I only mentioned my reason, then went on to give my opinion of why i felt that way in general for anyone.
Thank's for the unwarranted sarcasm because you only read what you wanted to.
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Buying 24" imac, Windows, Parallel, Autocad
Prime Detailer 17th Jan 2007
A few years ago I had to switch from Mac to PC because of Autocad. I don't use the PC nearly as much as I did my Mac because it just doesn't work that well, and I miss that. I've just ordered a 24" imac and loading it with Parallel and Windows. The only thing I anticipate using Windows for is Autocad. I'm not sure Autodesk will make a Mac only version.
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Ole Tange Updated - 17th Jan 2007
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iphone
GULAMKHATRI 17th Jan 2007
THEY CONFIRMED IN KEYNOTE DESKTOP CLASS APPLICATION !!!!!! AND COMPARE
APPLE TO APPLE !!!!
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The torture is Microsoft
YinToYourYang-22527499 17th Jan 2007
Of course the corporation won't be using iPhone and it's good to know the ZDNet
bloggers are upstanding corporatists.

So what! There are many more uses to phones than as tethers to the workaholic
work ethos.
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jhencken 18th Jan 2007
Go get 'em tiger! Yes!

wink
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Uses...
Wolfie2K3 18th Jan 2007
So what! There are many more uses to phones than as tethers to the workaholic work ethos.

Yes... There ARE plenty of other uses for a phone. But how many of them really, REALLY demand the use of a SMARTphone?

For MOST of those situations even a plain Jane Nokia 5160 or Samsung R225 would be more than adequate. In case anyone really needs a refresher, the 5160 and R225 are simple black/white screened phones circa 2000. Neither have cameras, Bluetooth or much in the way of features. Data cables and the like are extra.

Ok... I'll admit it - they're both pretty FUGLY compared to most of the phones on the market today - let alone are quite "stone age" when it comes to features. But for 90% of what you speak, they would undoubtably get the job done. They both can place calls without much in the way of fuss.

So who really NEEDS a smartphone besides business users? The average non corporate schmuck on the street probably doesn't need one. He can get by with an average phone - like most of the standard phones found in any cell carrier's shops. The Teen scene - those who are obsessed with texting.. Well...No. They're probably more at home with something like the Sidekick. Stay-at-home moms? Probably not. They need a basic phone, maybe the means to text their kidlets. Maybe a camera to catch those little moments that otherwise could be lost.

So who really DOES need a Smartphone besides business folk?
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Other uses?
shraven 18th Jan 2007
Here's the rub:
How many of those non-corporate users are in the market for a $500 phone?
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IPHONE
GULAMKHATRI 17th Jan 2007
WHICH PHONE IS IN RIVAL OF IPHONE ???IN 499 $
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WHICH PHONE IS IN RIVAL OF IPHONE ???IN 499 $

Ok.. So it's about $599 - the same as the "high end" one... But there's a phone out there by a smaller, lesser known brand - E-Ten. They've got a PocketPC phone model X500 that has pretty much most of what Apple's phone has feature wise AND has a couple of features that fix the problems that people have been having with the Apple Phone.

Namely, it's got:
1.) a replacable battery
2.) microSD slot
3.) Outlook for corporate email
4.) Voice recognition dialing.
5.) It also isn't locked into iTunes. It does most popular formats. It's DRM free.
6.) Office compatibility. Open and edit Word/Excel files and so forth.

Ok.. So it's not quite as purty as the Apple phone. It's still more functional.

http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/X500.php
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Ok.. If you must have competition..
Wolfie2K3 28th Jan 2007
WHICH PHONE IS IN RIVAL OF IPHONE ???IN 499 $

Ok.. So it's about $599 - the same as the "high end" one... But there's a phone out there by a smaller, lesser known brand - E-Ten. They've got a PocketPC phone model X500 that has pretty much most of what Apple's phone has feature wise AND has a couple of features that fix the problems that people have been having with the Apple Phone.

Namely, it's got:
1.) a replacable battery
2.) microSD slot
3.) Outlook for corporate email
4.) Voice recognition dialing.
5.) It also isn't locked into iTunes. It does most popular formats. It's DRM free.
6.) Office compatibility. Open and edit Word/Excel files and so forth.

Ok.. So it's not quite as purty as the Apple phone. It's still more functional.

http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/X500.php
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Get real ZDNET!
People 17th Jan 2007
I cannot find on Apple's website anything that calls this a smartphone let alone a device marketed to the enterprise or pro-sumer. Please, quit killing the device over something it isn't even intended to be. Makes you look foolish.

It seems to me that so much time and bandwidth being printed and used about this device is caused by what it isn't rather than what it is. Who's fault is it really if you expected more than what Apple delivered? Do like me and stick with a Pocket PC phone.

The people who will see this in the store and on television and want one 2 seconds later don't even know this site exists.
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look again...
voyager529@... 17th Jan 2007
At $500, you've got a problem. It will be out of reach for their core demographic, teens and college students, so now the pricing point is pushing them towards entirely different demographic - people with deep pockets. Because of this, I feel that Apple will need to either fish or cut bait - either drop the price of the phone so that the teens can get it, or add exchange support, drop the itunes sync crap, and get more third party apps and an SDK out the door. Either way, it seems that Apple has put themselves between a rock and a hard place. Based on some of the stuff I've seen on 'my super sweet 16' though, something tells me that many an iPhone will become a standard birthday/Christmas/Chaunukah/Kwanzaa gift this year...


Joey
To expensive for it's target demographic? Cheaper alternatives? Alternatives that
cost less and have more "features" iPod had NOTHING new.....and yet?

Not saying the iPhone will be the next iPod but based on the complaints alone it's got
a chance...heh heh heh

Pagan jim
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Actually the IPOD didn't
voska 17th Jan 2007
The IPOD when it came out offered tons of advantage that the cheap altenative didn't offer. Sure it was expensive but so was the alternatives. So if you were going drop $500 on a portable music player Apple offered more, sure you might save $50 going with the competition but you lost more than $50 worth of value.
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I call bull
frgough 17th Jan 2007
NO ONE was saying that when the iPod first came out. Everyone was dissing it just like the iPhone. Overpriced. Underfeatured, doesn't do Windows. DOA.
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They sure did!
dave95. 17th Jan 2007
Many said the iPod would fail because it was expensive when it was released etc. Years later they made the same claim because it was "closed", PFS was the future because it was "open".

I am amazed the iPhone is getting so much attention.
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Big difference
Ed Bott 17th Jan 2007
A music player works well as a simple device. A smart phone by definition needs to do much more. So comparing iPod to iPhone doesn't work.
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What doesn't it do?
Rick_K 17th Jan 2007
I mean besides have an MS OS on it? It does e-mail, text messaging, internet
browsing, it has an address book and a calendar. Now add to that it plays music,
plays video files takes pictures (not really important). It syncs with a Mac (iCal, Mail
Calendar, address book, iTunes). Is this aimed at the corporate world? No! Is it aimed
at the wealthy (athletes, movie stars, musicians, etc.)? Yes! So instead of complaining
it won't do what you want it to do, try and be objective. If you want a windows smart
phone, then by all mean, go get one.
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It doesn't play nice with outlook
dave95. 17th Jan 2007
Therfore, it will fail! Don't you know that! wink
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MS Exchange?
PMDubuc 18th Jan 2007
From what I understand MS Exchange doesn't support standared e-mail protocols (POP3 IMAP4). Why not? The iPhone would work with it if it did. So whould every other e-mail client besides Outlook. Why is lack of Exchange support Apple's problem? Why isn't lack of POP and IMAP support Microsoft's problem instead? Maybe it's time some people decided to liberate their e-mail from Microsoft instead of complaining that Apple doesn't support the MS lock in of their e-mail.
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re: MS Exchange?
Wolfie2K3 18th Jan 2007
From what I understand MS Exchange doesn't support standared e-mail protocols (POP3 IMAP4). Why not?

Exchange does indeed support POP3. You have to enable that on your server to get it working though. Not sure about IMAP though.
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comparisons
rwahrens1952 17th Jan 2007
Of course it works, since the comparison isn't about the devices themselves, but in how those devices changed or can change the markets they are introduced into. Beside, the iPod today isn't a 'simple' device, any more than the iPhone is.

So the iPhone doesn't have anything new as far as functions or features. Steve didn't say it did. He DID say that it does those things better and more elegantly than the competition, which was his stated objective in the first place.

Or didn't you even watch the keynote?
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What does the iPhone do "better"?
bhartman36 17th Jan 2007
From what I could tell from the demos I've seen, it does the Web better. Possibly, it holds more music than other music phones. But it's certainly not a better phone than other phones. In particular, the decision to make the whole phone (save for one button) a touchscreen is mind-boggling to me. Tactile feel of a phone is very important to people, and it's astounding to me that Jobs and Co. just threw the whole concept out the door. (I mean, the man seems to think that using a stylus is harder than mashing a phone with your fingers. Huh?!?!? You'll notice in the demo on the Apple site that you never actually see someone dialing.)

The sensors that can reorient the screen and shut off the touchscreen when it gets too close to your face are both innovative. It would've been great to see them incorporated into a practical smartphone, rather than wasted on a sicence project.
You claim tactile is important to some perhaps but I never (and I have very small
hands) ever considered using a keyboard that comes with those smartphones nor do
all the buttons on your average phone appeal to me because A: I'd have to learn
what does what and B: I just know I'm going to be pressing the wrong one's at the
wrong time. If one can create a layered interface meaning you only deal with the
imput you need to do the function you need them I'm in...Oh yeah Apple's done that
sorry.

Pagan jim
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But what about *dialing*?
bhartman36 18th Jan 2007
Sure, keyboards on cell phones add bulk. But it seems to me that Apple has neglected something more important than messaging: dialing the phone. Not only do most phones have actual keys for the numbers, but they have some sort of mark on the 5 key to show you where the center of the buttons is. The iPhone designers seem to make the assumption that the only calls you're going to make are from your contacts, but what if you have to call someone from outside your contact list? Personally, I sometimes have to dial my phone while I'm doing other things. It doesn't seem like you can do that with the iPhone. At the very least, there should be voice dialing, if they're going to eliminate keys.

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