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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android

By | October 14, 2010, 3:21am PDT

Adobe has more than 1 million downloads of Flash Player 10.1 on the Android market, but still has a few kinks to work out on the mobile front.

Since Flash Player 10.1 launched on Android the reception has been solid. Indeed, observers were expecting a rocky outing for Flash on mobile devices. Adobe kicks off its Max 2010 developer conference Oct. 23 to 27 in Los Angeles and is likely to tout the mobile capabilities of Flash and talk up the AIR platform for mobile devices.

I’ve been testing a Motorola Droid X with Flash Player 10.1 installed. Overall, Flash works pretty well on mobile devices. Videos and ads delivered a full Web experience.

However, there were a few issues. Here’s the way I use video on a mobile device—I hand it to my kids. While you’ll hear a lot of fancy use cases for Flash, here’s mine: My 7 year old wants to stay at the park. My 4 year old wants to leave. I try and buy my oldest some time and hand her the smartphone pointed to a Disney.com video or NickJr. Dora and Mickey are a great way to pass the time.

The rub: Disney didn’t quite work with Flash Player on Android. Neither did AddictingGames.com.

We caught up with Anup Murarka, director of technical marketing for mobile and devices for Adobe, to see what the deal is. After all, Flash is supposed to just work.

The issue is that Disney and other sites are reading a mobile device and delivering a site that doesn’t include video. Murarka said that the Flash unit has a swat team that goes around to help make the sites read correctly. It takes time.

“It’s not an API issue,” said Murarka, noting that the Flash team is investigating the sites I had trouble with on the Droid X. Flash Player 10.1 uses the same code base across experiences, but sites aren’t set up to provide a desktop experience on a mobile device.

When does this problem become more important? When tablets start launching. Android tablets will have Flash and device makers like Samsung and Research in Motion are touting a full Web experience. The rub: Sites may read an Android operating system and deliver a stripped down mobile page sans Flash and video.

I noted that I didn’t sweat hiccups on a smartphone—I’m conditioned to sites that don’t render well. On a tablet, my patience will be thin. Larger screens need to show off Flash and a good browsing experience. When I hand a tablet to my kid those Dora videos on NickJr better work.

That’s where the Flash swat team comes in. Adobe has to find sites that deliver a mobile page instead of a Flash-enabled one.

Related: Adobe launches Flash 10.1 for Mobile: More than half of all smartphones by 2012?

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Talkback Most Recent of 21 Talkback(s)

  • so ...
    ... you are saying "Videos and ads delivered a full Web experience", only that a lot videos are not playing or not playing well and ads are a part of the full web experience? that's a "full experience" i don't miss on my iphone.
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    banned from zdnet
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @banned from zdnet No, he never said that.

    FTA - "Overall, Flash works pretty well on mobile devices. Videos and ads delivered a full Web experience. However, there were a few issues."

    You do know what the phrases "delivered a full experience" and "a few issues" means, right? Hint - It doesn't mean lots of problems.
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    eMJayy
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @eMJayy

    Videos and ads delivered a full Web experience.

    What else does that mean? It's like me saying images and spam delivered a full email experience. Commercials delivered a full TV watching experience. Huh?

    I would love to see a video of how well Flash is working, how smooth web pages is scrolling when you have ads constantly loading and looping.
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    dave95.
    14th Oct 2010
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    eMJayy
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @eMJayy. great video that show Fash in WiFi and conveniently stops before it showcases problems .... which usually start after 30 secs of Flash ....
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    wackoae
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @wackoae

    What problem? I see no problem in that video.

    "which usually start after 30 secs of Flash"

    Funny. My computers and mobile devices must have been blessed by God himself because I've never experienced any problems after 30s of Flash.

    LOL @ this FUD and BS.
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    Intosh
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
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  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @banned from zdnet
    Sites that re-direct users to a disabled mobile version is the problem here, not the Flash Player itself.

    Also there's a setting on Android for Flash content to only activate when clicked on, if you want to skip ads. Or you could just disable the Flash Player, an option not even given to iPhone users.

    That said, most sites deliver annimated GIFs ads when users don't have Flash, so it's not like they can be avoided all together. Ads which are likely to be more animated in SVG or Canvas, as more HTML5 tools become available.
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    Matt_Fabb@...
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @Matt_Fabb@...

    "Also there's a setting on Android for Flash content to only activate when clicked on, if you want to skip ads. Or you could just disable the Flash Player, an option not even given to iPhone users."

    Settings? User options? Are you mad? How dare you give choices to users!

    //sarcasm
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    Intosh
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @banned from zdnet
    I guess you didn't read the part that said videos are not playing because sites are redirecting to a limited mobile site. Sites generally do that for inferior "smart" phones that can't do flash. The better sites will at least provide a link to the full website. I don't bother with mobile sites. Thats for suckers.
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    rengek
    14th Oct 2010
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @rengek
    Yeah I agree. I've never understood the concept of 'mobile websites' what with my inferior 7 YEAR OLD HTC BlueAngel running FULL Internet Explorer and Opera browsers.

    It wasn't an issue until Apple came along and screwed it all up.
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    15th Oct 2010
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  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    @banned from zdnet lot higher likelihood that with their search results tied to phone access that they are coming closer
    to the line. Many media outlets have been pared down as well as the phone companies. The day is coming,
    and google may have to spin off something to
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    concone
    26th Sep
  • RE: Adobe tops 1 million Flash downloads on Android
    I have been using it on my Nexus One since launch.

    The site code that sees my phone and delivers a mobile version is like 90%+ of the stuff that does not work.

    Get the site owners to fix this and flash users on these devices will have the whole experience.

    Adobe did a good job with this....
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    rhonin
    14th Oct 2010
  • A few kinks? The darn thing pretty much disables the phone
    A few kinks would be minor bugs. Flash on the Android phone pretty much turns the device into a useless paper weight that can only be recovered by rebooting. And don't forget how quickly it eats the battery .....
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    wackoae
    14th Oct 2010

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