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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Android tablets may have opening vs. Apple iPad, says study

By | June 3, 2010, 10:15am PDT

Apple has sold more than 2 million iPads, but there may be an opening for rivals should they get their device act together, according to a Retrevo study.

Retrevo polled more than 1,000 people about the iPad ahead of Apple’s WWDC powwow. In short, the findings go something like this:

  • 52 percent of those surveyed said they don’t need an iPad;
  • 38 percent of folks say the iPad is too expensive;
  • 10 percent are looking for a good excuse to buy one.

Then Retrevo asked about Android tablets.

  • 53 percent say they’d get an Android-based tablet if it were cheaper than an iPad;
  • 33 percent would get and Android tablet if Verizon were the carrier;
  • 28 percent say they’d get an Android tablet if it were discounted as part of a subscription service.

This study gets to that iPad first mover thing I’ve been harping on. Apple is strong out of the gate with the iPad, but it’s unclear how long it will take Android-based tablets to catch up on functionality. Thus far, I haven’t seen any so-called iPad killer that could really give Apple a run.

The longer it takes for a credible competitor to emerge, the more runway Apple has. Apple may not get an iPhone-ish lead on rivals, but the Android army can’t take its time either.

Judging from Retrevo’s results, price will be a differentiator. However, Apple never competes on price—although pricing is going to be competitive—so a bunch of cheap tablets aren’t going to derail the iPad.  Things will get interesting if a Droid tablet subsidized by Verizon Wireless hits the market though.

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RE: Android tablets may have opening vs. Apple iPad, says study
yarinsiz Updated - 13th May 2011
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It's got to sell for under $200.00
cornpie Updated - 3rd Jun 2010
at that point I can consider it an expensive toy. At iPad prices I'd consider it a frivolous and ridiculous waste of money.
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And then you actually use an iPad
nix_hed 3rd Jun 2010
and realize "hey, Apple may have actually got the idea right but the price about $200 too high."

If Apple started offering iPads in a 7 inch form factor for $200 and dropped the price of the 10 inch to $300, and maybe offered an iPad HD with a 12 inch 1366x768 widescreen for $400 (all Wifi 16 GB models), then the price would seem more reasonable.

The problem with the upcoming group of tablets based on Android is going to be this - they're either going to lack basic features and use lower quality screens to be cheap, or they're going to pack on high-end features and cost about the same, or more than, the iPad.
@nix_hed
You have to own a computer for an iPad to be useful.

As soon as they cut the cord, it becomes a useful device.

Android tablets will never, ever have to plug into a computer to be useable, so right off the bat they win there.
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@Droid101 Have you seen any sort of concrete specs on an Android tablet? Are you absolutely sure it will have OTA everything like the Android phones? Until then all you got is pure speculation.
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Competition is good
ubiquitous one 4th Jun 2010
Even in the face of anti-competitive monoliths like Micro$oft. I think Android has a lot of potential.

It's possible Apple could engage in some tablet price wars if some Android-based tablets appear. Or you could wind up in a situation like the iPod where people will still buy them even if it costs more in the face of cheaper competition.

If you remember, the iPod (like the iPad) got so much momentum after it was introduced that the competition still has to play catch-up with. Having a large head start helps quite a bit in that regard.
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ubiquitous one
Michael Alan Goff Updated - 4th Jun 2010
Tell me what Microsoft has to do with this.
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Droid101
Bruizer 5th Jun 2010
Why do you think you have to plug an iPad into a computer to be useful?

In fact, you don't. Nice myth to try and propagate, however.
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@goff256
ubiquitous one 7th Jun 2010
Tell me what Microsoft has to do with this.

Because they're the biggest monopoly in personal computing today. Contrary to feeble M$ fanbui excuses, they have a stranglehold over OEMs they they shouldn't have any control over.
For some, that's what it is. For many, like me, it's a cheap replacement for a much more expensive laptop, with improved productivity.

Surveys like this are always interesting. I work for a research company, so I get to hear all the discussion on what happens when you ask consumers a "what if" question. They often respond with their fantasy, or what they think you might want to hear. On top of that we have the statement that people would buy a subsidized device, proving that they have poor math skills and are easily duped by the hidden cost of the inflated usage cost.
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How many of those polled ever used one?
dave95. Updated - 3rd Jun 2010
Seems like an obvious question that's left out. I would like to know their reactions after using the device. Do they still think it's expensive? Can they now see a use for it after using the device?

I also find it strange that 33 percent would like Verizon to be the carrier before considering a tablet. Shows they're still confused about this type of device. These are not phones. Do they think iPad users are dropping calls being on AT&T?
to be connected wherever they go, with a screen size that is more usable than an iPhone.

Now, a verizon data plan that included both the phone and the tablet (teathered), that would be great!
@dave95. Perhaps it is the fact that except for Urban Metro areas AT&T 3G coverage is spotty and they want to be able to use 3G nearly anywhere they go. That is a Verizon fact. AT&T may cover most of the USA but 3G is sparse and concentrated mainly in urban areas so the other 80% of the country would be stuck with wifi or slow Edge network.
I would like to say that in many cases I would rather see these on Verizon. I am an avid techie and realize this has nothing to do with call loss, but coverage area. Where I am (mostly) my Verizon strength is always top notch, where my AT&T air card just doesn't carry the same signal. I had recently discontinued my AT&T and just started tethering my BB and it is much better.
There is the concept that Verizon is going to be picking up the iPhone come July. This is just speculation, however. I do believe that this may bog down the Verizon network once this happens; but we shall see. I feel pretty strongly with the Verizon network. Even though they say that it is not one in the same I truly believe the roll out of the FiOS is part of their backbone and will play a huge roll in the support of all the new ?toys?.
Why have a tablet that's as limited as a mobile phone, when you can have a tablet that is as useful and versatile as a PC! On a Windows tablet I can do everything I do on my PC.

iPad is essentially just a giant iPhone. Android is better but cannot begin compete with a real OS. It might be ok for a basic user, or basic web access.

Like it or not, Windows is the future of tablets.

http://twitter.com/timacheson/status/15340433693
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@Tim Acheson A lot of people come up with the word "real OS" recently. What IS a real OS!!!???

There is no such a thing called a real OS and a fake OS.

You should know that Windows is no longer the future for the Tablet platform. HP knows that very well
@NaderBelaid
IMHO Real OS == Full featured OS with full access to file system and freedom of app development and installation. Right now MS-Win and/or Linux are ones that fit that definition.
My wife has an I-phone 3G and it routinely gets under my skin. I am a programmer and I like to be able to do WHAT EVER I WANT TO MY devices. This isn't the case for the average consumer, but I am sure there are enough people such as my self to drive the market to meet that demand. I would be interested in seeing if HP shows vision and puts web OS on sturdier hardware then the plam-pre. I knew several palm pre users who loved the OS and found the phone hardware unreliable and/or flimsy.
The most important is thin, light weight, cool to the touch, blazing performance, and long battery life.

iPad has it all.

Just like Linux propeller heads do not matter, Windows propeller heads do not matter either.
@DonnieBoy
Android 2.2 devices are faster than the iPad, and that's been proven.

iPad doesn't have it all, like, for instance, not having to be connected to a real computer for it to work right.

Android devices (and I'm assuming all those new Win7 tablet OS's) won't need to plug into a "main" computer in order to function. That puts them way ahead of the iPad.
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@Droid101 You are comparing Android phones to the iPad?!?!? Apples and oranges... a proper comparison would be the iPad vs an Android tablet - which is not even out yet. But don't let the facts stand in your way.
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Is there a study to back up your claims?
adornoe@... 4th Jun 2010
The jury is out, and the masses do not care about Windows on a tablet.

Where is the study that queried the masses?

BTW, the masses is not the same as the people who frequent tech blogs, so please produce the study that includes the real "masses".
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@ Droid101
Bruizer 5th Jun 2010
So far, all of the shipping Android tablets have been shown to be substantially slower than the iPad. Simple fact.

You have serious issues understanding basic facts.
@DonnieBoy
... said "blazing performance"
who cares how fast a device is or how long its battery lasts when it has to be connected to a "real" computer (desktop or laptop, PC or Mac) in order to manage it, and when the apps are cut-down versions of apps which you'd run on your desktop or laptop?

No one has explained to me what the ipad does for its price that a netbook can't do better, even if you use a phone (even an iphone) over usb or bluetooth.
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Let's all be honest for a moment. Consider what Apple always does every time they roll out new products. They advertise like crazy about how fun it is with all these apps and gadgets but never really talk about performance. This is because they aren't targeting the users that know how to use these and know what to expect. They are targeting those that want the new, hip, cool things and do not know any better.
They then just sit back and look at all the people buying up the "new product" which is actually just a prototype. They are looking for real world feed back. It is a very intelligent way to gain your real-world testing while making a profit. The longer they hold a product in production the slower the profit is. Why not send out the new product, get your feed back (listen to everyone complain); mean while you have the next best thing but you need to hear the feedback from the prototype so you know where to make your tweaks. Then you quickly launch the ?next best thing? and watch your profit margin rise again.
Just like the iPhone, it is going to be multiple versions before the complaining stops; or should I say slows down.
@khippert: Just look at the Pontiac Fiero. That was a really hip, 2-seater concept that came out one year, but had its problems. The second year, many of those problems were fixed, but it had already developed a reputation. By the third year, it was a good little car, but nobody was buying them because of the year one and two issues. End result, line dropped. Now you're trying to say that Apple does the exact same thing, but if that were true, why is it that the iPhone is selling faster now than it was in year one? Why are iPods holding the dominant market share? Why are Apple's computers selling faster each year compared to the year before?

The logic of your argument fails right there.
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@ khippert
Bruizer 5th Jun 2010
Have you considered a logics 101 class in school?

If anything, you are describing Google's release early - iterate often concept of development. This brought us the highly under-powered and poorly thought out G1. This brought us to multiple shipping versions of Android. This brought us to a fragmentation nightmare Google will be cleaning up for the next year.

Apple advertises to people that simply want to use technology and not endlessly tweak it with bash shells, task manegers, resource monitors and other software technologies from the stone ages.

Take the shipping Android tablets. Slow. Poor screens. Clumsy touch screens. Can't run most of the software in the Market Place. But cheap.

Is this the utopia others outside of Apple are offering?
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I admit it - I want a WinPad too.
nfordzdn 4th Jun 2010
@Tim Acheson - you've made yourself an easy target because it's not cool to want Windows on a pad, but the fact is that I use a lot of programs that require Windows, and I will never buy a pad that I can't run them on.

As for the guy who said: "The most important is thin, light weight, cool to the touch, blazing performance, and long battery life. iPad has it all." -- yeah, so does my portable fan, but neither one will run the programs I need.

For those who think that the iPad is too expensive -- how about a Pet Rock? Millions bought them in the 1970's, so they must be good, they don't care if you flash them, and unlike the iPad, you can even get one with a USB port:
http://gadgetsteria.com/2009/04/02/the-gadget-that-never-judgesusb-pet-rock/
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@Tim Acheson

Like it or not, Windows is the future of tablets.

And how would that be how? HP pulled the Windows OS from their slate and is going with WebOS. Archos has gone with Android. And thus far there have been no Windows based tablets aggressively marketed... So based on that enlighten me as to just how Windows is the future of tablets?
@athynz
It's another example of boisterous vaporware. The kind Ballmer pulled a few months back when they introduced the Slate. Just another dog & pony show.
@Tim Acheson: But can you do everything you can do on an iPad or Android tablet? Does it really have the capabilities you need to be mobile, or does it force you to use it like a desktop?
@Tim Acheson For most people, "everything I do on my PC" isn't a whole hell of a lot, and an iPad, or likely an Android tablet is plenty. If you're more sophisticated, congratulations! But you're a minority in the consumer world.
@Tim Acheson

Yawn. Didn't Bill Gates announce that tablets were the future nine years ago?

In all that time, where are all the Windows tablets you speak of ?

If Windows is the ideal OS for tablets, somehow it hasn't taken off.
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THE FUTURE IS NOW !
thofts 3rd Jun 2010
Tim Acheson wrote: "Like it or not, Windows is the future of tablets."

Uh...the iPad is selling at the rate of one every 3 seconds. What is the rate of Windows based tablets?
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Really, so what??! Just as proprietary and locked down as the iPhone and other apple products. There is one certain thing though, people won't car until the competition starts selling devices that point out how locked up and controlled it is by Apple. I personally (because I like to OWN the hardware that I just bought) will not buy one. I will hold off for the faster feature rich Android based devices where I own even the source code to the OS. The 'Android Army' will win just like DOS and Windows did against Apple in the 80s. Proprietary is not better. The market has proven that over and over again. Linux is a great example of that. MS OS will come and eventually go, but Linux in one flavor/form or another will be here forever. It can be used for anything on anything. While Apple somehow believes that a long lasting ecosystem can be created on software that will run on one set of hardware and an OS that is synonymous with the device it lives on.
If I were a developer, I would most definitely be going for the easier to spread, open, free-to-develop-on Windows or Android OS (not to mention more feature rich).
All in all, Apple knows how to create a very HOT fire, but alas it only has one device to burn on, while the other less hot (for now) fires out there will be burning on thousands of different devices long after the iPad/iPhone OS has gone out.
A printing solution is the key for me. I wouldn't use any tablet without that functionality.

Rob
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In other news...
Sleeper Service 3rd Jun 2010
Bears defecate in woods.
"Not only did Apple fail to convince new buyers, it may have lost many potential buyers who now say they don?t think they need an Apple tablet computer."

http://www.retrevo.com/content/blog/2010/02/apple-ipad-hoopla-fails-convince-buyers
@Benzine At over 2 million iPads sold in 2 months, I don't believe Retrevo knows what they're talking about.
I am anti AT&T because their 3G is too limited. I like the iPod touch I have and think it is the best I've ever had. I am sure the iPad is a great device but after 8 months with a Droid, I would rather opt for an Android tablet than an iPad for the features it has to offer and the options. Even if the price were similar to iPad like the Neofoni WePad Android device-- (wifi, 3G, web cam, sd card reader, 2 USB ports, 6 hr battery and HD resolution just to name a few) the options and features make it the better deal for me. If it came with Verizon 3G, I would be a buyer.
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They do need to connect in order to sync contacts and so forth, but they are fully functional on their own, just like an iPhone. Just so you know, even iPhones don't need to be plugged in either to be useful. Mine is only tethered once a month to sync contacts and music and check for updates.
So quit sippin' on the Hateorade!
www.dfwsupergeek.com (a Linux propellerhead who enjoys Mac, and the iPad!)
@unclefixer@...
Here here, and thank you very much!

All this chest-beating about it requiring a computer to use is ridiculous puffery.

My best friend bought an iphone, had it activated through the exact same process as the iPad requires, and has used it for a year straight without plugging into a computer.

Exact same goes for an iPad. So what is all their huff and puff about, saying that since THEY THINK an iPad requires a computer (AND CLEARLY DOESN'T) they think android is superior.

Pfft!
I would really not like to see this get into a debate about what is better windows or MAC. I personally use both and fix both. I also consult users that don't have the tech knowledge on what to purchase. I always say, if you are doing general computing and minimal music and video; by a PC, if you are heavy with those aspects get a MAC. There is no doubt about it that MACs are designed for fun, where windows are designed for work. You can't argue the fact that boths sides are in an "alright" battle for competition in use.
If Apple haven't signed a contract with AT&T for the iPad. Then why can't some iPads be designed to be used on other carriers networks, such as Verizon???
The iPad is unlocked. You can choose which cellular carrier you want to use. If it is someone other than AT&T, you will have to contact that carrier to create an account and get a micro sim card for that carrier.
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iPad has a good price point!
ctxppc 4th Jun 2010
Well, I'm not complaining about the price of the iPad. It's a cheap computer using powerful technologies made by a fantastic company. I really don't think Apple is losing here: they barely can make them. I'm in Belgium and I'm still waiting for units to ship in! happy
"May" have an opening? Of course they have an opening. Anything has an opening, we just have to see if they (whoever they are) can take advantage of it. This article is just rumor-mongering flamebait (RMFB) -and not a very successful one at that. Better luck next time. An example of a more successful RMFB is the one about Apple "maybe" dropping support for Tiger. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/mac-os-x-tiger-due-for-extinction/7086?tag=nl.e539.
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"droid tablet"
shadfurman 4th Jun 2010
I just came in my pants a little...
These results, this story, and the fact that so many of you are listening to a guy whose user name is Droid101 is hilarious. I'm sure Apple is worried.
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