Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

Summary: Apple certainly is allowed to thump its chest over the Mac App Store, but the far larger experiment will the Microsoft's Windows 8 store.

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Software distribution is soon going to look a lot like Apple's Mac App Store. The company said that more than 100 million apps have been downloaded in less than a year.

Overall, the Mac App Store has emulated the iTunes App Store.

Apple certainly is allowed to thump its chest over the Mac App Store, but the far larger experiment will the Microsoft's Windows store. With the launch of Windows 8, Microsoft will feature a store for its so-called "Metro-style" apps. In a nutshell, apps that use the tile themes will be on the store. Also see:

Microsoft has a much larger market share footprint for Windows. Assuming Windows 8 takes off, the app store model common in the mobile industry is likely to take over traditional computing as well.

The beta for the Windows 8 app store launches in February. The only real wild-card for the Windows effort is whether Metro apps take off. Windows 7-like applications won't be included in the store.

Topics: Software, Apple, Hardware, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Windows

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  • Translation time

    <i>"Apple can boast about all they want over their huge success. You just wait, and wait, and wait.. Our store will be bigger, better and much more popular! You'll see!"</i><br><br>It sounds like the usual vaporware to me.<br>To instead watch the trends, what people actually have wanted this far, and how bad Microsoft's alternative has been this far, is Microsoft toast.
    Mikael_z
    • Apple is MS's R&D Dept once again

      @Mikael_z

      What will be most interesting is watching the rate of customer complaints as they pour in over bad installs caused by driver and registry errors. There's a reason the Apple App stores work so well.
      jaypeg
  • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

    Can't wait for the Win App store!
    DJK2
  • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

    What I like about apps stores is that they can control piracy and lower prices.
    lorenzosjb
    • At least you've got one for two

      @lorenzosjb

      Sure, they'll curb piracy...but you're delusional if you think that big-time software houses would rather pass their savings on to their customers as opposed to executive bonuses.

      Go ahead. Prove me wrong.

      Joey
      voyager529
      • You are wrong! Of course...

        Look, you fail to understand the free market system.

        The free market is about "what the market will bear" and, if a corporation prices its products out of the reach of most consumers, or out of the reach of their particular market, then that corporation will fail. If a corporation is more worried about executive salaries and executive bonuses than about making or keeping their consumers happy, then it's going to fail there too. If a consumer finds a product to be overly expensive, then that consumer will go elsewhere for that product, or will skip that kind of product completely. It doesn't matter what the cause, whether corporate greed or wrongheaded product/service decisions.

        So, did you thing that, playing the class card was going to go unchallenged or that it would make you sound so knowledgeable about economic matters?

        Good thing you aren't in a big corporate responsibility anywhere.
        adornoe
      • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

        @voyager529

        Only in an idealized, trickle down free-enterprise world would @adornoe@... spew such fantasized horsesh!t.
        ScorpioBlue
  • Let's hope it is not a model to emulate

    Remember: In the Mac AppStore, once you updated to a newer version of a product, you can never go back. E.g., Apple "fixed" Keynote and removed the "Export-with-transparent-background" feature in version 5.1 (and has not brought it back in 5.1.1). If you rely on this feature (as we do), there's no way back to an earlier version, unless you bought the software from a non-AppStore source and you kept copies of previous updates, so you can reinstall everything.<br>I know I oversimplify here, but consumerization is (considered to be) good for everyone except for production professionals (such as us) and super-users...
    veit@...
  • A model to oppose violently

    ... you want to pay a 30% tax?<br><br>The 30% tax is pure greed. I think Intel should charge Apple and M$ 30% for using their CPU platform. I think disk vendors should charge Apple and M$ 30% for using their platform. I think W3 should charge Apple and M$ 30% for using their standards.<br><br>I have no intention whatsoever of paying the 30% tax.<br>I can't understand why the whole world is not up in arms against the idea.<br>If the Government proposed such a measure there would be a revolution!<br><br>I'm hoping there will be a vendor-independent store funded by minimal ads.
    jacksonjohn
    • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

      @johnfenjackson@... Wow, could you be any more inane than this? Seriously think for a minute -- does Apple have no cost? Every company builds in a margin and the 30% is not the margin. It is also no where near the highest. Do you actually think that milk cost $3.75 a gallon, that the shirt you wear really cost $24.99? Do you think that Intel doesn't have margin built in? Apple charges what it can charge. You have the right to buy elsewhere and buy different products. So did you enjoy the MS monopoly and the Windows tax they inflicted on the entire industry? Apple does not have a monopoly. The whole world isn't up in arms because it's what people call doing business, welcome to reality. <br><br>The irony is that for your so called 30% tax, you get software at a lower price, easier access to that software, and more profits for software creators -- perhaps that's why they couldn't care less. In the end those who adapt survive and thrive, the rest just die.
      mjardeen@...
      • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

        @mjardeen@... +1 However, @johnfenjackson@... is probably too busy at the Occupy base camp convincing people to eschew capitalism to see your response.
        jokila
      • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

        @jokila
        In NO way shape or form is the occupy movement anti-capitalism. Well, no more so than Adam Smith was. In fact, the main thrust of the movement is to support common-sense regulations that Adam Smith himself championed in "Wealth of Nations".
        You know who Adam Smith is, right?
        .DeusExMachina.
    • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

      @johnfenjackson@... I am not up in arms because the cost of apps in the app stores is considerably less than what I used to pay at retail and I am guessing retail stores had at least 30% markup on most titles. Markup is nothing new.

      Like brick and morter stores that provide a retail presence and salesmen, app stores have servers for storage, staff that evaluates every app and marketing staff that promote apps. They deserve to get their cut for performing these services.

      I do disagree with them getting a cut from in-app purchases. I don't see where they provide any value in that transaction in the case of Amazon books/magazines.
      nick@...
      • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

        @nick@... "cut from in-ap purchases"....isn't that a iOS App Store issue...not a Mac App Store issue?
        global.philosopher
      • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

        @nick@... Simple, I will just give my software away for free and then make the purchase in-app -- now that money is all mine. It's a simple way for Apple to stop people from abusing it. If other companies can't deal with it, then they need to find a way to adapt to it.

        Does Walmart allow me to go into their store, set up a stand and then sell my goods with no money going to them? It really is that simple.
        mjardeen@...
    • OPPOSE VIOLENTLY? so don't buy from ANYBODY because everyone takes a cut!

      @johnfenjackson@... <br><br>LOL!<br><br>you think brick and mortar stores don't take a percentage? They provide their stores for free?<br><br>Big retail chains not only take a margin from sales they also often charge manufacturers a rate for 'renting' shelf space!! i.e if you want to sell cereal not only do you sell it at $1.00 (or whatever to the chain store) and they sell it at 3.75 but you also have to pay Chain Store extra for the privilege i.e you sell it at 75 cents ( minus say 25 cents for shelf rental). But then again if the big Chain sells your stuff in thousands of stores you might make millions of bucks. Bidding for shelf space is cut throat (some suppliers bid millions of dollars before a single sale) . Suppliers bid $$ for shelf space. <br><br>After everybody pissed on Apple for 30% now Google etc is ALSO charging 30 % ...<br><br>Even most CHARITIES take a cut from donations for Administration costs!<br><br>jeez..
      Davewrite
    • 30% is actually very reasonable. If you go through a distributer, you

      generally have to do a 40-10-10 discount (which works out to about 55%). If sell direct to retail, you generally have to do between a 40 and 50% discount depending on the size and purchasing power of the retail outlet.
      baggins_z
  • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

    windows 8 is wrong it is made to spy on us the usa people that have do wrong they get all we do on the computer and on our cell phones that is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
    ttx19
    • Wrong, wrong, wrong!

      Look, stay away from computers and from the internet and anything that is even remotely electronic and that could be spying on you. In fact, stay inside your home, or cave, and don't wander outside, where satellites might be spying on everything you do. See that black SUV over there? Well, it could be full of "men in black" watching your every step. Go hide! Quick!
      adornoe
  • RE: Apple Mac App Store: 100 million downloads and a model to emulate

    30% is a low take for a distributor of packaged software but high for electronic distribution.

    In the packaged software era, most mass market software developers had to spend time and money designing and producing DVD's, unread manuals, and eye-catching boxes. Then they had to distribute through outfits that would take a long time or forever to pay them because of the theoretical possibility of consumer returns. Piracy was rampant in some product categories. Good riddance to physical distribution.

    Developers have long had access to services like Kagi and PayPal that handle aspects of electronic distribution. Their fees are low. But they distribute license codes, not applications and installers. And they don't offer customers a uniform rating and review service, a product catalog or an automatic update service.

    Many developers distribute both ways: through their own website with the help of a payment service, and through the Mac App Store.
    NotPaidToSayThis