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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup

By | July 27, 2010, 6:07am PDT

Summary: Apple has refreshed its Mac Pro and iMac line with the latest Intel processors.

Apple has refreshed its Mac lineup, including its Mac Pro and iMac.

First, the Mac Pro line (statement). The latest Mac Pro has up to 12 processing cores and a 50 percent performance bump compared to older models. In a nutshell, Apple is bringing the latest Xeon processors to the Mac Pro as well as new ATI graphics and options for up to four 512GB solid state drives.

Among the key points:

  • Mac Pro will get quad core and 6-core Xeon processors running up to 3.33 Ghz. the Mac Pro comes with ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphics processors.
  • The new lineup will have the ability to install SSD drives in the system’s internal drive bays.
  • These pups aren’t cheap. The quad-core Mac Pro will run you $2,499. The 8-core Mac Pro will start at $3,499.

The highest end model will feature the following:

  • two 2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5620 processors with 12MB of fully-shared L3 cache per processor;
  • 6GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM memory, expandable up to 32GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB of GDDR5 memory;
  • two Mini DisplayPorts and one DVI (dual-link) port (adapters sold separately);
  • 1TB Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • 18x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW);
  • four PCI Express 2.0 slots;
  • five USB 2.0 ports and four FireWire 800 ports;
  • AirPort Extreme 802.11n;
  • Bluetooth 2.1+EDR; and
  • Apple Keyboard with numerical keypad and Magic Mouse.

And then there’s the iMac lineup (statement). In a nutshell, the iMac has been refreshed with Intel’s Core i3, i5 and i7 processors. The iMac starts at $1,199 and goes to $1,999 and will feature processor speeds of 2.93 GHz to 3.6 GHz.

Here’s what you’ll get with the 27-inch iMac with a 2.8 GHz Intel Core i5 for $1,999:

  • 27-inch 2560 x 1440 LED-backlit display;
  • 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 processor with 8MB shared L3 cache;
  • 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 5750 discrete graphics with 1GB GDDR5;
  • 1TB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW);
  • Mini DisplayPort for audio and video input and output (adapters sold separately);
  • AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
  • iSight video camera;
  • Gigabit Ethernet;
  • four USB 2.0 ports;
  • one FireWire 800 port;
  • one SDXC SD card slot;
  • built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
  • Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
Remarkable submit! I want to find out a stay with up on this nflshop matter??
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iMac not evolving.
jspignardo@... Updated - 27th Jul 2010
All-in-one with no multi-touch or touch? Really? Does Apple care about the Mac anymore? Are they really just an phone company?
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doctorSpoc 27th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@... NEWS FLASH.. touch on a desktop is a gimmick.. it is an ergonomic nightmare to use touch on a screen at 90 to table.. the screen should be at that same angle as a keyboard to be usable ~5-10 degrees..

hold your hand out straight out in front of you for as long as you can.. maybe you can do that for a minute.. maybe two.. can you do that all day? no.. it's idiotic to have touch on a desktop screen.. it's a gimmick nothing more.. not for dedicated use.. for casual use maybe in a kitchen or something maybe, but it's not something you can use to do real work on... it's useless on something like an iMac.. and that's why it's not there..
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Gotta agree with you on that one
Stephen Howard-Sarin 27th Jul 2010
@doctorSpoc: I hate the idea of touch on a desktop display, especially a really big one like a 27-inch monitor. You would indeed need massive deltoids to use the thing.
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Touch on desktop is a joke
Richard Flude 27th Jul 2010
It's not surprising only one company is pushing it, unsuccessfully.
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Tim Acheson 27th Jul 2010
@doctorSpoc

Fair point,
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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
Tim Acheson 27th Jul 2010
@RichardFlude

"Touch on desktop is a joke"

Wrong, in fact the ideal is a fully featured OS that works nicely both on my desktop and my multi-touch tablet, such as Windows 7.
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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
Ken Whitmore 27th Jul 2010
@doctorSpoc I personally programmed a touch-screen front-end GUI for the Dutch Coast Guard Center in IJmuiden, that was in use for about 10 years before being retired in favor of the Dutch Navy's GPS system. Nobody there ever complained about having to reach out and touch the screen. Of course, there are many applications that don't make sense with a touch screen, but then there are many others that do. Don't rule touch screens out just because of those who don't need them. Let the user decide how much or how little they use it, rather than eliminating their option. Perhaps parallel models with and without would be the most appropriate approach, since it does cost more to implement it and those who don't need it can save a few $$$. This would at least also mean those who do need it won't have to go to a clunkier 3rd party solution or modify their existing hardware.
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ItsTheBottomLine 28th Jul 2010
@doctorSpoc Actually we are using them for our executives. It fits nicely with their phones and/or ipad when they are not in the office. You just have to set them up correctly (physically) in the office. So yes they are a niche, like say the iPad, but there is a good place for them.
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Gee, no Gorilla Arm?
jaypeg 27th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@...

What a rip-off!
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If you don't like it...
godsfault 27th Jul 2010
@jaypeg don't buy it. Exactly who is being "ripped-off?

When I show someone a doc on my desktop screen, they like to touch areas of interest. This smudges the screen. Having a touch pad could be most useful in these instances.
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In case you missed it...
wolf_z 27th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@...

Apple is selling the Magic Touch *tablet* for $69, a little gizmo that acts like an oversized glidepad--which sits next to the keyboard. Looks almost like a glass palmrest.

So the multi-touch would be next to the keyboard, addressing everyone's concerns.

Geez, and I'm not even an Apple fan. happy
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TROLL ALERT
thofts 27th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@... The Apple Bigot Boys are out of the gate...
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@jspignardo@... I can't even reach my 27in iMac from where I sit, so it being touch enabled would not only make my arms strain immeasurably, I'd also have to sit far too close to it for my liking.

Just because touch works on some devices doesn't mean we automatically need it on everything. Some people just seem to like to whinge about anything rather than think first!

However, whilst on the subject of touch - I'll be first in line tomorrow to go and try to get one of the new Magic Trackpads as it is something I really miss when jumping from the MBP to the iMac.
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Arm extensions
Partners in Grime 27th Jul 2010
@thking "I can't even reach my 27in iMac from where I sit..."

Same here. LOL. Maybe Apple can sell us some finger extenders.
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There's no touch because...
AdamzP 27th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@... There's no touch because it's running Mac OS which would have to be completely redesigned in order to support the most basic touch features. Luckily Windows 7 is really good at touch.

Before I even read down to your comment, I was thinking the same thing: These iMacs would be awesome if they had touch screens and Windows 7. I think it's possible to install a touch-screen mod on them though.
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What?... I uhm mean WHAT?!
daftkey 27th Jul 2010
@AdamzP: Really? The MacOS doesn't suppor touch?.. Like, not since they included handwriting recognition nearly a decade ago?
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StandardPerson 27th Jul 2010
@AdamzP

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about, so why did you bother posting? If Apple added a touch layer to any Mac then the output of that layer could be routed into OS X using a modification or combination of Apple's existing touchscreen input software.

If Apple decided to add touch hardware to their Mac screens, the software would take almost no time to modify and add; your claim that OS X "would have to be completely redesigned in order to support the most basic touch features." is the wishful thinking of a Micro-troll.
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lelandhendrix@... 27th Jul 2010
@AdamzP I use both, and windows 7 really isn't any better at touch than Mac OS X.

In fact, I use my iPad to connect to and control my win 7 machines using RDP, and to my Mac machines using VNC--all the while just touching around instead of mousing.

Both have on-screen keyboards. Both respond the exact same way.

What is it about Windows 7 you think is better at being touch-enabled?

Every manufacturer I have ever seen who sells a touch-screen computer has also had to create a front-end for touch, as none of them rely solely on Windows 7. The HP touch smart is a PRIME example.
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lelandhendrix@... 27th Jul 2010
@AdamzP Additionally, there would be no real benefit to switching to windows 7 on a mac just for touch--unless there are some nooks and crannies I haven't found in windows 7 in the almost 2 years I've been using it.

Enlighten us what you are talking about?
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Unfortunately...
Jeff Dickey 29th Jul 2010
Windows 7 may be good with touch (it's big enough they can certainly strap more bags on if they choose to); too bad it's shite at everything else. C'mon, a SHORTCUT exploit in the wild?!?
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CPU bump....not a true refresh
scdaddyo 27th Jul 2010
All,

I have no affinity to Apple or Microsoft camps. But being the father of a disabled child I can tell you that "DoctorSpoc" hadn't look at the whole picture.

While I concur to many touch doesn't seem necessary but to people with disabilities Apple is in the dark ages. The OSX UI only provide assistance to people with visutal impairments and some limited voice control. But to people with motor skill disabilities these UI features are useless.

Touch screens would be a positive step in the right direction. Apple could also use this type of technology to sell systems to be used for kiosks.

Thought this would help provide a different perspective.
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kenosha77a Updated - 27th Jul 2010
@scdaddyo

I understand your point of view regarding this issue. But wouldn't an iPad with an optional bluetooth wireless keyboard be a better solution towards coping with the disability you cited rather than having a desktop "27 inch iPad"? (obviously a reference to the the new 27" iMac with a new "magic pad" installed.)

I understand that the iOS environment can not give the full OSX experience but it is, in my opinion, a good first step towards supplying a rich computing experience for individuals with disabilities similar to the one you cited.

You might wish to view these links that detail some examples of the iPad working with individuals having disabilities.

http://www.disabled-world.com/assistivedevices/computer/ipad.php

http://mritechnicianschools.net/2010/10-ways-apples-ipad-is-changing-healthcare/
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@kenosha7777

Thanks for your efforts. Note that the iPad is very expensive for what you get. People with disabilities have challenges paying for assistive technology anyway and an iPad does not have the CPU power to run assistive technology. It also lacks the depths of apps. The Mac has a few more apps.

The OSX UI issues that are taken for granted by all of us are the hardest for the disabled to use. Consider how small the close, minimize or maximize buttons are for someone who's hands shake. Even with the trackpad this issue is not solved.

It is a fundamental flaw in how the UI's at Apple inadvertently exclude the disabled.
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lelandhendrix@... 28th Jul 2010
@scdaddyo
"Consider how small the close, minimize or maximize buttons are for someone who's hands shake"

The Windows method is not any better in this regard.

This is why using dedicated buttons or macros are the single best solution to this problem, and neither OS is superior in this regard.
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SleepingCat 27th Jul 2010
I was the IT director for a school for a while. During that time, I worked with disabled students and their special services teachers. What we all quickly learned was that touch screens were helpful only in small format. Really, anything larger than a 15.6-inch laptop was a chore, even for those of us without mobility and dexterity problems. So, I don't think a 27-inch touch screen would work well.

I don't presume to know anything about your specific situation, but some of our most agile people had problems using it for longer than 10 minutes straight. Also, the screen of the HP tablet wasn't a clean or crisp display. So, anyone with vision problems (including my mild astigmatism, which is completely corrected with glasses) had problems with it. And typing on the screen itself was all but impossible.

On the other hand, a tilting touch screen might be very good for some graphic artists. But that's what that's what the Wacom Cintiq does, only through the pen/brush instead. I do a lot of retouching work, and I'm not sure if I'd like essentially finger-painting as my finger is a lot fatter than the tip of a pen. I guess that's what Brushes (and some other apps) on the iPhone and iPad do.

I really don't see places using an expensive iMac for a kiosk when they can use a much cheaper PC, even one running Linux. And many of those use proprietary installs anyway, not something you'd want to spend even $1000 on.

I believe the best place for a large-format touchscreen is where most of us see them everyday: presentations as on CNN and the like. They are very cool if you can swoop in the photos with your hands. But I can also remember news being covered before that too.

Medical and engineering facilities can also find the giant touch-screens handy, but that's, again, not for constant usage, such as replying to messages in a forum.
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Trolling or not??
eldernorm 28th Jul 2010
@jspignardo@... "All-in-one with no multi-touch or touch? Really?" Just incase you were too busy trolling to notice, Apple is now selling a very large touch pad bluetooth to allow you to "touch" items on your screen with out getting your peanut butter and jelly fingers all over your screen.

Just a thought there,
en
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Earthling2 28th Jul 2010
@eldernorm

Wacom has been doing this for quite some time. It is not as good as using a mouse with the desktop: the hand does get tired after a while. Also, handwriting is better done with a pen than a finger. http://touch.wacom.com/
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Apple way ahead of the competition
ShazAmerica 27th Jul 2010
Years ago, in mac OS X's development, Apple experimented with a way tha users could see multiple windows on their screen and then pick the one they wanted. They had one version where all open windows would line in a stack and the user would flip through them to get to the one They wanted.

Apple discarded that and went with Expose instead, where all open windows shrink and display themselves simultaneously so that a user can pick the window they want immediately without having to wait until that window comes up while flipping

Apple believes in saving the user a few seconds in tasks as this adds up to better productivity.

Of course, Microsft used the discarded, time consuming flipping idea in Vista and called it a feature.

Now you have HP making an all in one computer with a touchscreen, thinking this is innovation ( I was using a touchscreen with my apple IIci in 1989 but I digress)

Well, look at someone using a vertical screen, with their arms bieing held up,(gorilla arms) thus taking their hands away from the mouse and keyboard, which they are constantly going back to as windows and it's apps weren't designed for touch (like the apps on an iPhone or iPad)

It's wasteful movement

So Apple goes one better, they put the 'touchscreen' on the mouse, or on a laptop integrate it into the trackpad, and now Apple just announced the Magic Trackpad for desktops

Much more elegant and easier to use than a touchscreen on a vertical monitor

Apple, always a step ahead
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@ShazAmerica

No BluRay? No E-SATA card? No USB 3.0? Final Cut Studio still 32 bit? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ......
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HypnoToad72 27th Jul 2010
@accelv - and a new video card whose bigger numbers pertain solely to the model number. Benchmarks show it to be effectively no better than the 4870.

And the 5870 has been out for a year as well.

Apple is becoming a joke. sad
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Tim Acheson 27th Jul 2010
@ShazAmerica

"Apple way ahead of the competition"

I assume you're joking, or being sarcastic?
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HypnoToad72 27th Jul 2010
@Tim Acheson - Agreed. Fully.
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ItsTheBottomLine 28th Jul 2010
@Tim Acheson Not on desktops...
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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
ItsTheBottomLine 28th Jul 2010
@Tim Acheson ... just goes to show a fool and his money are soon...
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@ShazAmerica
and no flash on iPad, iPhone4 issues. A step ahead, indeed.
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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
lelandhendrix@... 28th Jul 2010
@azurehi Boo hoo.

Old story. Nobody cares, especially the millions of people who own these items. Nobody is missing flash and its associated waste of resources.
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RE: Apple refreshes Mac Pro, iMac lineup
​ Updated - 2nd Aug 2010
@ShazAmerica Who in the hell are "they"? 1 != 2, retard.
and it's -> its
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27" iMac specs are pathetic
ericesque 27th Jul 2010
I built a PC that is spec'd nearly identically for half the price... in 2007.
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@ericesque

You got an i5 two years before they were released? You must be special.
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@msalzberg
If it runs OS X then he is indeed special and I want one.
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Generic Box and external screen right?
James Quinn 27th Jul 2010
@ericesque
Now if you did that in the same form factor as the iMac I'd be impressed. Others are pointing out that some of the parts that are in the new iMac did not exist two years ago either so what's up with that? Also just to be clear that "external" monitor is it the same quality as the one that comes with the iMac after all fair is fair.

Pagan jim
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Samsung 2443BW
daftkey 27th Jul 2010
@James Quinn - "Also just to be clear that "external" monitor is it the same quality as the one that comes with the iMac after all fair is fair."

My 24" Samsung which retails for $319 is quite a bit better than the iMac screen. And it sits on a height-adjustable stand and can pivot 90 degrees and I can use it on more than one computer.

So what else does the extra $1500 give me in an iMac?
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24" dude. Not 27".
James Quinn 27th Jul 2010
@daftkey
Generic statements like "Quite a lot better' do not stand you have to include specs.
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Gritztastic 28th Jul 2010
@daftkey

Well my 139$ 19" Westinghouse monitor is quite a bit better than your overpriced Samsung, and it has racing stripes and built in speakers!
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lelandhendrix@... 27th Jul 2010
@ericesque Thats really, REALLY funny to me!

Please tell me where you got the 27" LED backlit display at 2560x1440.

Then tell me where you found the core i-series processor, and what you paid for it.

I'm all for building PCs, and have been doing so myself for almost 20 years. And you can get ROUGHLY equivalent performance for about 90% of the price.

But you don't get OS X, the applications suite, the support, the design, etc. Granted, those things are not at all important to some people.

But for those looking for those items, you can't make it cheaper. Not in 2007, unless what you REALLY built was a TIME MACHINE.
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Gritztastic 28th Jul 2010
@ericesque It has a keyboard, a mouse, a cpu, a HDD, a CD drive, and a monitor- nearly identical! Just like how my 97 Civic is nearly identical to a 2010 SLK- 4 wheels, seats, windows, etc.
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Is strange that an Apple workstation only supports 32GB of RAM while a HP z800 can go up to 192GB. Maybe the MacPro is a midrange workstation and not a full high end model. BTW, why an expensive machine like this don't includes a 3yr warranty?
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@dvm

@dvm

no doot aboot it! friggen thing is all flash with the xeon processors that cost a mint, then they put a crappy little walmart hard drive in it (1TB 7200RPM lol) instead of a couple of velociraptors or ssd drives...guess if you're a graphics developer, you know this thing needs a massive overhaul after you get it home lmfao
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lelandhendrix@... 27th Jul 2010
@dlancelot If that's what you're into, just order it with the drives you want. There's lots of bays, tell them to put in there whatever you want, right?

I don't see other retailers doing anything differently
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jammer6463 27th Jul 2010
@dvm

I love Macs, but only have one, (I have a 15? MacBook Pro) that I bought a couple of months back. I understand the form factor of a Mac being better than most PCs. I also really love the OS and all the other features.

That said; my other 4 machines are all PC?s. I own 2 HP workstations, an HP 8510p portable and a brand new HP Elite Book 8500P, with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

The HP 8510P that I recently bought not only is fully loaded with a 500GB drive and 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, and Blue Ray, but get this, it came with a 3 year warranty standard. The 8 GB upgrade on my Elite Book was only $200 from the initial 4BG it came with. This is the same RAM that Apple uses DDR3 1066MHz.

My MacBook Pro conversely only came with a 1 year warranty standard, so I had to pony up the additional money for the 3 year warranty (which was not cheap at $349).

Another thing I want to know about Apple is how come, to increase my RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB on my MacBook, Apple wanted an additional $400. I was able to source an 8 GB DDR3 1066MHz kit from New Egg for the MacBook for $210. Remember this is the same RAM increase I got from HP for $200. It was also $200 to go from a 320 GB SATA drive to a 500 GB SATA drive (HP only $100). Antiglare Screen which was standard on my HP Elite Book was $150 additional on the Apple.

So to sum it up, I do love my MacBook Pro, but why does Apple upcharge for the RAM, Hard Disk, Antiglare screen and 3 year warranty? All these features combined on my HP Elite Book totaled out to be $300 on the MacBook $699 (excluding the RAM that I sourced from New Egg).

I know Apple sources from the same RAM producers, LCD producers and Hard Disk manufacturers as HP and the other PC makers do. They also should be proud enough of their products to put a 3 year warranty standard on them.

I really love the Mac, but it was damn hard for me to cost justify it to my boss (er wife). I just don?t understand the disparity in cost for the same components. Can any of you folks who have been using Mac for years give me an answer?
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tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
Remarkable submit! I want to find out a stay with up on this nflshop matter??

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