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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Apple's retail stores turn 10: Crow for sale

By | May 18, 2011, 12:38pm PDT

Summary: Apple’s retail stores turn 10 and what looked like a boondoggle—and potentially a disaster in the making—has turned out to be one of the company’s most brilliant moves. Here’s a look at the early critics and the $7.3 billion in operating profits since then.

Apple’s retail stores turn 10 and what looked like a boondoggle—and potentially a disaster in the making—has turned out to be one of the company’s most brilliant moves.

On May 19, 2001 Apple opened stores in Glendale, Calif. and McLean, Va. The master plan was to open 25 retail stores in the U.S. in 2001, all aimed at selling Macs and “digital lifestyle products” to complement the Mac.

Note what’s missing: No iPod—those landed in October. Certainly no iPhone. And no iPad.

Photos: Apple stores, 10 years of gear

Another comical item comes in Apple’s statement touting its retail store opening. Consider the first two paragraphs of that May 21, 2001 statement:

CUPERTINO, California—May 21, 2001—Apple today announced that its first two retail locations welcomed over 7700 people and sold a combined total of $599,000 of merchandise during their first two day weekend. The stores, located in Glendale, California and McLean, Virginia are the first of 25 stores the company is opening across the U.S. in 2001.

“We are blown away with the numbers,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “More importantly, customers have told us they love everything about the store—from the knowledgeable sales staff to the Genius Bar to the store’s design and unique approach to presenting digital lifestyle solutions.”

Today, $599,000 is a rounding error to Apple. And the company has added anywhere from 25 to 50 stores a year on average to easily top 300 locations.

Jobs’ big idea was that customers “rather than just hear about megahertz and megabytes” could “learn and experience the things they can actually do with a computer, like make movies, burn custom music CDs, and publish their digital photos.”

Despite Jobs’ enthusiasm, tech watchers didn’t quite get the Apple retail focus. Why? For starters, Gateway launched a bunch of stores only to shut them down. Tech was all about going direct online at the time. Stores—silly bricks and mortar—were a crazy idea.

BusinessWeek panned the Apple stores and delivered this money passage:

Given the decision to set up shop in high-rent districts in Manhattan, Boston, Chicago, and Jobs’s hometown of Palo Alto, Calif., the leases for Apple’s stores could cost $1.2 million a year each, says David A. Goldstein, president of researcher Channel Marketing Corp. Since PC retailing gross margins are normally 10% or less, Apple would have to sell $12 million a year per store to pay for the space. Gateway does about $8 million annually at each of its Country Stores. Then there’s the cost of construction, hiring experienced staff. “I give them two years before they’re turning out the lights on a very painful and expensive mistake,” says Goldstein.

BusinessWeek noted that Apple’s retail store launches would hurt already strained relationships with partners. Best Buy in 1999 dropped the iMac after Jobs ordered the retailer to carry all eight colors. Sears, Roebuck & Co. dumped Apple.

CNet News was more balanced, noting that some Apple fans and analysts thought the stores were a good concept. Other analysts didn’t get it. Gateway’s stores colored the perception at the time and the dot-com bust didn’t help either. From a 2001 CNet News story:

The retail outlet openings have some analysts puzzled, considering the economy’s impact on computer sales and Gateway’s troubles with its Country stores. Combined PC and notebook retail sales in March plummeted 27 percent in units and 25 percent in revenue from a year earlier, according to NPD Intelect. Apple sales fell deeper, plummeting 29 percent in shipments and 35 percent in dollars.

I can’t find my old clips from 2001, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t see Apple’s retail juggernaut coming either.

The prism of retailing when Apple launched its stores was seriously cracked. Apple outlined the issues in its 2002 annual report:

The Company originally expected the Retail segment to break-even in the first quarter of 2002 and generate a slight profit for all of 2002. However, given the continued deterioration of the U.S. economy and the aftereffects of the events of September 11, 2001, the Company now expects its Retail segment to suffer a small loss for the first quarter of 2002 and for all of fiscal 2002.

Of course, no one knew at the time that Apple’s iPod would dominate music and MP3 players and then set up the iPhone and iPad. When Apple launched its stores, the company was all Mac all the time. Apple was just trying to show that its OS X had software to go with it.

Today, you could argue that Apple has reinvented retail to some degree. The fast checkouts, the helping hands, the design of the store and the retail outlet as tech amusement park are all themes that have been copied to some degree. Everything from Apple’s ability to draw a crowd at iPhone and iPad launches to supply chain integration to point-of-sales systems have been top notch. Bravo.

From those two Apple stores in 2001, the company now has locations in 11 countries and employs about 30,200 full timers.

But to really understand Apple’s retail success you have to deep dive into the filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Here’s a look at Apple’s retail revenue through the years.

For the six months ended March 26, Apple’s retail operating profit was $1.84 billion on revenue of $7.04 billion. Compared to the same time frame a year earlier sales almost doubled. Operating profit did double.

  • In fiscal 2010 closing at end of September, Apple’s retail outlets delivered an operating profit of $2.36 billion on $9.8 billion in revenue.
  • In 2009, Apple’s retail stores had an operating profit of $1.67 billion on revenue of $6.65 billion.
  • In 2008 saw an operating profit of $1.66 billion on revenue of $7.3 billion.
  • In 2007, Apple’s retail operating profit was $857 million on revenue of $4.1 billion.
  • In 2006, Apple’s retail operating profit was $600 million on revenue of $3.25 billion.
  • In 2005, Apple’s retail unit had an operating profit of $151 million on revenue of $2.35 billion.
  • In 2004, Apple’s retail stores delivered an operating profit of $39 million on revenue of $1.18 billion.
  • In 2003, Apple had a retail operating loss of $5 million on revenue of $621 million.
  • In 2002, Apple’s had retail operating losses of $22 million on revenue of $710 million.

Add it up and Apple’s crazy retail idea has earned more than $7.3 billion in operating profit over the last decade. Not too shabby eh?

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His_Shadow 14th Jun
...every time some codpiece blithers about the imminent death of Apple.
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ItsTheBottomLine 18th May 2011
@DonnieBoy Like that would work.
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@DonnieBoy
You know they will... they have to copy everything Apple does... they can't innovate anymore only copy.
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ItsTheBottomLine 18th May 2011
@Hasam1991 - Ouch!
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@Hasam1991 Just like Microsoft and the MS Stores.
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@Hasam1991

They must have learnt it from apple then.
Apple = biggest copy cat around.
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@Hasam1991 Its as if you people are on cue. Do you just copy and paste the same, "company x cant innovate" message for every article on this website?
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@Hasam1991

Sadly you're right.
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@DonnieBoy - what would they sell? Clouds?
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I agree partially with the critics
ShazAmerica 18th May 2011
They were right that branded computer stores were the wrong way to go...if they were selling Windows computers. Nobody, gateway, Dell, Microsoft can make stodgy PC's a draw. Microsoft loses tons of money on their failed stores but they have to keep them open, just like every other money losing business they stay in, to save face, while Apple absolutely crushes every record for sales and profit per any kind of store.

I think what is more interesting is this. That Goldstein guy was 100% wrong, yet I bet he still has a job somewhere making six figure for his 'wisdom and insight'

Steve Balmer dismissed everything Apple came out with, he even laughed at the iPhone thinking consumers would never buy it; he still makes a few million per year.

This goes to show that no matter how dumb you are, if you're sitting pretty in a fat cat position in this country, nothing will get you knocked out.

If I was a shareholder of MS, and saw this clown take a 500 billion dollar company and knock it down in ten years to half its value AND be late to the party with every new innovative product that the competition comes out with, AND laughs at things that consumers want but he can't realize it, I'd be mad as heck that Balmer still holds that position. He should've been fired years ago.

On the other hand, as an Apple shareholder, I never want to see Balmer go!
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So much wrong in your argument I don't know where to start
Will Pharaoh Updated - 18th May 2011
@ShazAmerica
I think it's safe to assume that you're a hater, and think people really believe the BS you post here, which honestly makes me feel kind of sad that people like you still exist in todays world, dinosaurs of a forgotten era.
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Great, logical, well thought out reply
ShazAmerica 18th May 2011
@Will Pharaoh

I like how you argued each one of my points in a thoughtful philosophical manner.

Now go pull those fries out of the fry-a-lator before they burn.

Oh, and yes, I am a hater of Microsoft, I'm a true American that believes in honest competition and a capitalistic society. I've read the MS trial transcripts. I know based on Gates and Co. own admissions and testimony what an immoral and unethical company MS was and is.

I feel terribly sad there are people like you that call themselves Americans that back predatory monopolists that strong-armed, blackmailed, and sabotaged other, honest companies.

Flip the burgers while you're at it.
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RE: Apple's retail stores turn 10: Crow for sale
shakatfoo Updated - 18th May 2011
@Will Pharaoh. I really don't see anything wrong with his comment. You must be a hater to call him one, since he made a very simple point about American business and pundits: salary is not tied to results. Jobs takes $1 a year as a salary as a reflection of confidence in his ability. I also agree with the following comment. MS profits primarily by creating bottlenecks in the market and exploiting them. If you are convinced of their value, I have one word for you: VISTA. To spend years and billions designing and packaging and marketing and delivering a landmark product - the only truly innovative thing in ten years - and have to pull it from the market because it was so bad... it's a farce, and all they were trying to do was copy someone else!
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ItsTheBottomLine 18th May 2011
@ShazAmerica
Be careful there hot shot - Apple is not the shining example of Corporate responsibility either - they just seem to hide it better, of course MS did as well while it was the darling, and they still do quite well - you forgot Stock Split. But then again your posts never cease to bring lots of entertainment - thank you, now back to my crashed Mac.
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ShazAmerica is right on the Money!
MacNewton 18th May 2011
@Will Pharaoh
How can ShazAmerica be labeled as a hater, when in fact only the truth was told. As I have said before, Balmer must have something on someone to be the CEO of M$. Personally I would't give him a job running a hot-dog stand. The insight this man has is alarming. I just love his iPhone comments. On the other hand, as an Apple shareholder, I never want to see Balmer go!
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@Will Pharaoh

Perhaps this person is a hater. Perhaps they're not. Regardless, this person's correct. This is what's happening with Microsoft. They can afford to bleed, but only for so long. Speaking of dinosaurs, while we argue points Microsoft is quickly evolving from T-Rex to a barnyard chicken. Maybe it's for the best?
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@Will Pharaoh
why is ShazAmerica a hater?
everything he's saying is true? how can it be that MS value got knocked in half, and Ms is late to everything. not making any money, yet Balmer is still CEO? i think this is a very valid point.
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@ItsTheBottomLine
"thank you, now back to my crashed Mac."

Oh really? What steps resulted in this supposed crash? I have crashed (due to kernel panic) maybe once every two years, and I drive my multiple machines hard.

Lie much?
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@ShazAmerica
Don't forget Michael Dell...
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Interesting thing about Mr. Dell
ShazAmerica 18th May 2011
@Hasam1991
When he made the comment that Apple should shut its doors and give the remaining money back to the shareholders, Steve Jobs put Dell's picture on the wall with a bullseye and said,"We're coming after you" (of course, this was in a day unlike now, where you have Palin putting Giffords in a crosshair in political ads leading to nutjobs shooting people, but i digress)

Jobs meant it in a way meaning that Apple was going after Dell. Look at the laser beam like focus Apple had/has. Build great products and run over companies that built their business by being just widget and commodity makers, fighting to the bottom for quality so they can squeeze a penny profit out of selling cheap PC's.

Apple's business model, as detailed in this months Fortune magazine the opposite of most businesses.

Now Apple has no one in their sights. They've blown by MicroSloth and now only have Exxon in front of them. An absolutely amazing turn around for a company people were leaving for dead just 16 or so years ago.
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@Shaz
fr_gough 18th May 2011
You lost all credibility when you brought the stupid talking point of Palin into the mix. Amazing how you are so fixated on her you think she has such power over the mentally unbalanced. Interesting that you didn't bring up the posters calling for the killing of the Gov. of Wisconsin during the collective bargaining legislation earlier this year. I guess only outspoken conservative women can motivate nutjobs to kill, eh?
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@ frgough
And you lost credibility when you reacted so disproportionately to a CLEARLY parenthetic clause. Especially since, if you had bothered to actually think beyond your knee-jerk reactionary response, the comment was NOT even disparaging of Palin, but rather some of her followers.
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@ShazAmerica

You can thank the 'old boy' network for that kind of incompetence. Personally, I love what Ballmer is doing for Microsoft. Call it a market correction. All irony intended. Maybe when Microsoft learns they can go back to being what made them great to begin with. ...only after they realize Ballmer's their own Sculley (managing fattened cattle toward a natural progression).
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@ShazAmerica

Uh, to be clear, this ball rolled on 2nd gen iPod and iPhone, which were nowhere near release when the first store opened. They were profitable 6% in '05. The 24% last year is pretty impressive, but compared to Cisco or P&G, it's nothing. P&G raised prices because their margins fell to only a little OVER 50%. If you wanted to do an Apple to Apple analysis, Apple stores are DRAGGING DOWN Apple's margin to 41%. One could argue that total revenue is bolstered because they'd lose sales if they didn't have the stores, but similarly, the stores probably cannibalize the more profitable online sales. Maybe it will change in the future, but so far, Goldstein is right. The Apple Stores have half the margins and 10% the revenue of the online store.
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is that truly 44.1 billion revenue in 2007? or is it 4.1?
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Staff
@MaryU@... Fixed. Nice catch. $ and 4 on same key. Doh!. if that 44 billion were correct I'd be writing about a decline.
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Dell
Hasam1991 18th May 2011
The funniest thing is DELL CEO making fun of Apple for going the Gateway route in 2001... he critized Jobs yet again and look what happened.
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john_gillespie@... 18th May 2011
I remember the good old days of the DOJ vs MS trail. When Bill Gates farted Michael Dell would belch.
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Um... turns out the Dell CEO was right
SonofaSailor 18th May 2011
@Hasam1991

After Gateway's flop, the only stores selling computers w/ Windows are Walmart, Best Buy, O Depot, etc.

Because, with numerous manufacturers selling pieces running the same o/s, coupled with ever-declining retail prices, the only brick and mortar stores that could afford to sell computers w/ Windows were/are the large retailers.

In 2001... that's the only way they could compete with sales of computers w/ Windows. As Larry's timeline indicates, it wasn't until the release of the iPod did the stores start generating profit; and until the release of the iPhone did they generate substantial enough profit relative to the company.

Today, they are nothing but a beacon for Apple's marketing strategy: that Apple's products are so sought after that you have to endure multiple hour long lines to acquire a product that everyone and their sister wants.

When, truth be told, I'm betting Apple would much rather enjoy Microsoft's channels of distribution, and not having to rely on marketing or distortion of reality to achieve notable sales in the market. For example, and right now it is especially applicable... 4 years ago, instead of having "I can't get viruses" commercials (which are now biting Apple back), I bet they wish they could have played the MS game of commercials: "We're Windows, we have a new o/s out"... and watch 20% of the market go out and buy what all of the 'experts' called a crap o/s (Vista)
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I don't think so...
Bruizer 19th May 2011
@SonofaSailor
"When, truth be told, I'm betting Apple would much rather enjoy Microsoft's channels of distribution, and not having to rely on marketing or distortion of reality to achieve notable sales in the market."

For Steve Jobs and Co., it is the Journey not the destination that drives the company. The few people I know working at Apple are highly driven and very competitive people. Apple still sees themselves as this small startup going against GIANTS.
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DeusXMachina Updated - 21st May 2011
@SonofaSailor
Talk about reality distortion. Here we have yet another example of you just making stuff up, with no concern for facts. To wit:
"As Larry's timeline indicates, it wasn't until the release of the iPod did the stores start generating profit."

First, no timeline was posted, second. the stores were doing well beyond expectations BEFORE the iPod came out, and third, and most importantly, the original iPod took QUITE a while to became successful. What you forget, through your seething certain of spittle and foam, is that the original iPod was:
1) Mac only,
2) firewire-based, not USB, and
3) had to essentially create a market segment (Creative having NOT made any great market penetration with PMPs).
But go ahead and live in your Reality Denial Universe. Not that it matters, as even if what you said IS true (it isn't) that does not make money not money, and success not success.
And you might want to recheck your facts. The Apple stores were already turning a SUBSTANTIAL profit, in fact setting retail sales records, in their stores WELL before the release of the iPhone in 2007.

"Apple's products are so sought after that you have to endure multiple hour long lines to acquire a product that everyone and their sister wants."

That's funny. Other than the first few days following the release of a new product, Apple's turn-around time in their stores is well below industry average. In fact, there is a popular game similar to the Disney game where the goal is to enter an Apple store and make it all the way to the back wall without an employee asking if they can help you. So 362 days a year, no lines, little wait, quick service.

"When, truth be told, I'm betting Apple would much rather enjoy Microsoft's channels of distribution, and not having to rely on marketing or distortion of reality to achieve notable sales in the market."

Right, because Apple does not WANT to be more profitable than MS, which they currently are.

""We're Windows, we have a new o/s out"... and watch 20% of the market go out and buy what all of the 'experts' called a crap o/s (Vista)"

Reality check. People did NOT go out en mass and buy Vista. They trickled into stores to buy new machines, that happened to have Vista installed (and often downgraded to XP). Market share for Windows Vista after TWO years of availability, in January 2009, was 20.61%, or 330 million. it only reached 400 million by the launch of Win7. This 20% did NOT "go out and buy [Vista]" as you claim, but received it bundled when they purchased a new machine.
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dave95. Updated - 18th May 2011
It was a hell of a risk to take at the time, but one that no other CEO besides Steve Jobs would have taken.

I remember 2001 well, and walking into those dark empty Gateway stores and wishing someone would just turn on the lights, please. It just was not very inviting an environment. Then after you found the PC that you want to purchase, to my surprise you couldn't just walk out the store with it, they had to place an order and ship it to my address (is this a brick n mortar?). Easy to see why it failed.

Apple Stores at the time was the total opposite of what Gateway was offering. Bright, very inviting stores with glass fronts. Even if you're just walking by, they tend to draw you in (the large crowds also helped). Not only could you play with all the goods, you can walk out the store with whatever you purchased. What a concept.
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@dave95. I am in near total agreement with you about the Apple stores!

The one and only thing that they are killing me on... I wish they would offer ALL models of the Macs in store. What I mean by that is... If you look at the models offered in the store you will find that the higher end CPU models are not available to purchase and walk out the door with. For example, I purchased an i7 2.8 Ghz iMac and had to purchase it from a different company (they were Apple authorized resellers) because the i7 line was not available on site at the stores.

Make sure not to get confused, this was in early 2010. They now have i7 models available in store, BUT, they are not the highest speed i7.

Back to my original comment... I loves me the Apple stores =)
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cynthia.spencer@... 18th May 2011
yes, check that 2007 number - makes a big difference in the % profit, from 11 to 21%
perfect sense. Gateway stores failed because you couldn't actually, you know, BUY anything there. The whole idea of the Apple store was to allow people to actually handle and use an expensive product and THEN buy one and walk out of the store with it.

Yet another example of how tech pundit geeks don't get Joe Sixpack. And why Apple is enjoying double-digit growth while Dell and HP are struggling in the consumer space. And why you folks continue to think that computers are nothing more than CPUs and chipsets.
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LMAO...
SonofaSailor Updated - 18th May 2011
@frgough@...

Yeah, because achieving "double digit growth" on a product that no one else can sell (the Mac) is just as easy as achieving "double digit growth" on a product that every other computer manufacturer in the world sells (Windows)!

HA! Hmmm... I wonder... if Psystar had been allowed to continue to do business, what kind of growth rates would we have seen vs. Apple's Mac?

Fancy a guess? (of course, I already know which way your fanboyish answer will lean... there really is no reason to respond)
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@SonofaSailor only NonZealot would come up with that silly Psystar argument...busted!
@SonofaSailor
Hmmm... I wonder... if Psystar had been allowed to continue to do business, what kind of growth rates would we have seen vs. Apple's Mac?

So you are for the legalization of Piracy? Psystar was selling modified versions of OS X, for which they did not themselves purchase. It would be the same if I sold 15,000 copies of Windows 7, by putting a disk image on hard drives. Sure Psystar purchased 10 to 20 copies of OS X, but they were trying to sell 2,000 computers using those 20 copies (at max).
manufacturers, not itself. Thanks for demonstrating the principle that just because you have a brain doesn't mean you've been trained in its use.
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Only Apple can sell computers?
Bruizer 19th May 2011
@SonofaSailor

Really? What does Dell and HP sell if not computers?

You do realize that Dell and HJP and Samsung and Sony all sell computers don't you? Apple is, by far, not the only company that sell computers.
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Mac -v- Psystar?
Ken_z 19th May 2011
@SonofaSailor

You have to be kidding. A very small company putting out a box as cheap as possible? Start thinking tech support, customer support, handling warranties, etc. They would have crashed after the fad was over - especially with all of the legal bills they would have been paying.

BTW, Macs were for sale at CompUSA (basically a Big PC Box store than went under) as well as various resellers. Check out some old Yellow Pages from those early days to get an indication of how far off you are.
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@SonofaSailor

So why not allow other vendors to sell copies of Windows. You don't want a double standard, do you?
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Apple's problem selling Macs
Ken_z 18th May 2011
Apple had one significant problem when it came to selling Macs - new customers had to spend a little bit of time playing with (or working on) a Mac before understanding what it would do for them. For years the Macs were hidden. Look in a back corner of CompUSA and you's see the Apple Area and with luck could talk with someone who could explain/demo the Mac. Might even spend some time on iLife - which was a real selling point.

For competition there were big box stores selling what ever was generating a spiff for the sales staff. Two totally different worlds.

While the numbers are pretty god over the years the most significant stat is that half of Mac sales in the stores are to customers new to the platform. That is a pretty strong validation of Jobs belief that new customers need to understand what a Mac is before they will buy it.

When you look at Apple today you see a company with a laser like focus on the consumer. From the first iMac to the iPod to the iPhone and now iPad Apple has had an intense focus on consumers. The introduction of iLife was a very strong indication of that intensity.

Apple's "enterprise business" has. to a very large extent simply being company's catering to their customers - like being able to get your banking information on your iPhone. And from employees who wanted to use their Apple products at work.

Most interesting is that the Apple Stores are only one type of store Apple is going full speed with. iTunes is a major music seller, moving into movies and books. The AppStore has taught the market "how to do it" and the AppStore for Macs is starting to grow.

And then there is the online Apple Store.

Apple's has been brilliant over the past decade, leaving the competition playing pocket billiards in comparison.
@Ken_z
I remember walking into a CompUSA and the ?helpful? sales person, told me that I did not want a Mac. They got more commission on a Windows PC than a Mac (plus all the add-ons). I even had one try and tell me that OS X was just a custom version of Windows, because I said I wanted a computer without Windows. Now this may, or may not, be true for all the CompUSA stores. I am just relating an experience I had at one.
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I just love there stores in Vancouver
MacNewton 18th May 2011
I think we have 2 now in Vancouver or is that 3, not sure. Anyway, the only problem I have is that some of the staff don't really have the right attitude. But they get the boot sooner then later. Way to go Apple. Be well Steve.
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neilpost Updated - 18th May 2011
Just a shame Apple's famed supply chain and logistics operation does not stretch as far as the Apple Stores

Q/ Do you have any iPad 2's ?
A/ No
Q/ When are you next getting some shipped ?
A/ Dunno
Q/ So you don;t know when stock is scheduled to come itn to the store
A/ Call us between 9.30 and 10.30am, and we'll see what rocks up over-night. If there is an iPad 2 you'd need to come down pretty quick.

FFS!
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@neilpost

Right now the iPad2 is selling as fast as it can be made. Unfortunately the earthquake in Japan has impacted the component supplier's abilities to deliver parts. Doesn't matter how much Apple scrambles around to get the parts there is going to be a shortage of product for a while.

Now, the guy at the store could have used more intelligent English, but he gave you the reality of the situation in pretty clear terms.

BTW, the easiest way to get an iPad2 might be at apple.com. happy
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1 apple is just as bad as M.S mac has had there share of failures it is just that Steve jobs decided to control both the hardware and the O.S before apple became big Steve would pit apple group against the Macintosh group and as far as there being any completion in the market there is none dell owns gateway and alien ware and even now another company is about to launch a patent lawsuit concerning touch screen now a days every gig company seems to file a patent on anything
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@udonkey
Please point to a single example of where Apple was shown to have stolen source code, including comments.
Please then show a single instance where Apple used a monopoly position to prevent their competitors' product from being sold.
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jobs discovered ******** baffles brains many years ago. a sad indictment of the inability of people to make choices without checking on and obtaining peer acceptance first ,i have apple ,therefore i am
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His_Shadow 14th Jun
...every time some codpiece blithers about the imminent death of Apple.

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