Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
Summary: Apple's subscription plan had a bevy of media execs in a tizzy and many were still trying to figure out the new App Store new deal. But these media types were sure Apple's new deal wasn't good. The solution: Walk away en masse.
Apple's subscription plan had a bevy of media execs in a tizzy and many were still trying to figure out the App Store's new deal. But these media types were sure Apple's new deal wasn't good.
The fuss was raised over the following passage in Apple's statement:
Publishers who use Apple’s subscription service in their app can also leverage other methods for acquiring digital subscribers outside of the app. For example, publishers can sell digital subscriptions on their web sites, or can choose to provide free access to existing subscribers. Since Apple is not involved in these transactions, there is no revenue sharing or exchange of customer information with Apple. Publishers must provide their own authentication process inside the app for subscribers that have signed up outside of the app. However, Apple does require that if a publisher chooses to sell a digital subscription separately outside of the app, that same subscription offer must be made available, at the same price or less, to customers who wish to subscribe from within the app. In addition, publishers may no longer provide links in their apps (to a web site, for example) which allow the customer to purchase content or subscriptions outside of the app.
In a nutshell, Apple wants a 30 percent cut of in-app purchases. If you are a publisher of movies or music this could be a big issue. First, companies like Rhapsody and Netflix pay content owners and then pay Apple another cut for the privilege of being in the App Store.
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Here's a look at some of the fallout:
- Amazon has to remove a link to its Kindle store within its iPhone app and offer in-app purchases so Apple can get its cut.
- The Wall Street Journal reports that Apple's move may mean antitrust issues.
- The Neiman Journalism Lab notes:
At first glance, this is exactly what a lot of publishers were fearing: Apple setting itself up as a toll-taker on news orgs’ road to a new business model. (Excuse the metaphor.) For publishers who had been counting on a new rush of tablet revenue to support a lagging print model, it’s disappointing to learn that, in exchange for the convenience of a “Buy” button in their iPad app, they’ll have to give up 30 percent of the revenue it generates.
Rest assured that the consternation over Apple's new rules is just beginning. However, let's say Hulu, Netflix, the New York Times and a few others, say Sirius XM, all pull their apps over Apple's in-app move. Apple will have to listen. In tablets, this move may be risky for publishers because the iPad is the only game in town for now. But if enough big content and subscription providers pulled the plug on the App Store and backed Android, Apple's move could backfire.
It appears that Apple has all the leverage, but that's not really the case. If there's an app work stoppage, Apple's loss may be Android's gain.
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RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
This 30% nonsense is extorsion.
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
Take off your Apple colored glasses and look at what is really going on.
30% is a lot of money. Content providers will be loosing sums of money from iBought purchases compared to if I bought directly from them on another device.
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
OK, so are Apple entitled to 30% of a transaction if I buy something through the eBay app? Or through the Amazon app for something physical?
What about if I pay a bill through the Bank of America app? 30% handling fee on that?
The purchases do not go through any Apple infrastructure, they go across the Internet. Perhaps I should pay Comcast, Cisco, Juniper, HP some money when I buy something on line too?
If Microsoft was charging a percentage for buying something through IE on a Windows PC connected to the Internet you would scream bl00dy blue murder. And rightly so.
So why do Apple get a pass? Are you an employee?
A dose of reality
Your analogy doesn't wash at all..
Would Walmart tolerate someone setting up a little stand inside their store to tell people about their wares that they can purchase in their store down the road, and not pay Walmart for the privilege of doing that? Are you crazy? In your scenario Walmart is getting revenue from selling that product with the advertising on it in the first place in iTunes case they are getting nada.. is that fair?
Rupert Murdock.. One of the cheapest money grubbing guys in publishing seems to thinks it's a good deal.. a news stand would take 50% of revenue + you'd need to pay for printing.. 30% all in sounds like a pretty good deal to me..
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
"In your scenario Walmart is getting revenue from selling that product with the advertising on it in the first place in iTunes case they are getting nada"
No this is false, itunes is getting the fee it charges to developers. The issue here is simple: The reason this is bogus is because companies cannot create ipad apps that aren't present in the app store. If Amazon had the right to have a kindle app download from its websote than Apple forcing the app to have subscription within it and taking a cut would be moot, the developer would just keep the app on its website. Apple doesn't allow that. So Fred's analogy is true. If I own a product say Its a Walmard brand. This product can only get services from a walmart, but htose services can be created by other people. I am forced to get that service from walmart. So in the vein of Apple, the ipad can only get apps from the app store. Amazon is paying to do this and not charging for the app. Apple wants to cut into their revenue more for fees that have nothing to do with them.
I want 30% of your next purchase
Apple is only taking a cut ...
Ridiculous
Apple looking for any commission from in-app purchases is a joke. The app store is there to provide distribution of the applications. Once the app is on the phone, no Apple owned system provides technology to facilitate the in-app purchases and therefore Apple deserves no commission. This would be like Sprint or AT&T limiting what pizza places you can call to order pizza from and then demanding that the pizza places pay a commission on each order they take. It's a joke. If Netflix, Hulu and others are going to pay commissions to anyone, it should be to the carriers whose networks have to support the transfer of data involved in those purchases.
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
No, commission would be "if you'd like to use our store, our door is open to you. We charge 30% commission."
Extortion is "If you have a store and you sell things, you HAVE to use our store or we'll pull your app. If we catch you charging more inside our store than outside our store, we'll pull your app. And we mandate 30%, not of your profit, but of your gross."
End result is that companies like Amazon either pull their iOS apps entirely, our have to raise their prices everywhere - for everyone, not just iPad suckers - or else face losing money, because on much of their retail, profit margins aren't anywhere near 30% to begin with.
And speaking of basic business 101 - profit margins are what they are to cover the expense of the business. If Apple mandates sales that not only swallow the entire profit but some of the expense as well, that won't lead to a profitable business.
If you really say YES you aren't going to run a profitable business. You'll either need to charge 20%-30% more than any competition on the web who doesn't have an iPad app - and see your business suffer as a result of being noncompetitive outside the iPad bubble world - or you'll need to lose money on every sale made inside the iPad app, with no recourse outside of those two options.
Good luck with your business success plan there, genius.
Trump would fire you.
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
So, Apple is forcing the publishers to raise their prices in over 42% (original price = 70, raise 30), all of it going directly to Apple if the subscription is sold through the i-app.
the developers have no other choice - the only way to put an App on the iPd
Please explain how, CC0005
Guess who's not having to pay for paper.
Guess who's not having to pay for ink.
Guess who's not having to pay for for maintenance of multi-million-dollar printing presses which cost ever more to maintain as they age.
Guess who doesn't have to purchase printing presses to replace defunct ones over time.
Please explain to me how these content providers will be losing (I will NOT copy your misspellings) from digital purchases when hard-copy costs so much more to produce.
@intechpc: Here's where you are wrong ...
<i>Once the app is on the phone, no Apple owned system provides technology to facilitate the in-app purchases and therefore Apple deserves no commission.</i>
All transactions for in-app subscriptions will go through the iTunes purchasing system. So, you are 100% wrong. Therefore, according your own argument, Apple does deserve a commission.
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage
@Cylon Centurion 0005
RE: Apple's subscription plan: Time for an app work stoppage