At $3K+, Lenovo's Linux-laden laptop debuts

At $3K+, Lenovo's Linux-laden laptop debuts

Summary: IDG New Service's Steven Schwanker reports: Lenovo Group announced on Tuesday the availability of the ThinkPad T60p, its first laptop computer preloaded with the Linux operating system.....The new ThinkPad will use Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10....

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IDG New Service's Steven Schwanker reports:

Lenovo Group announced on Tuesday the availability of the ThinkPad T60p, its first laptop computer preloaded with the Linux operating system.....The new ThinkPad will use Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10....The suggested retail price for the 14-inch model is $3,099 and $3,199 for the 15-inch.

I still think it's time for the industry to move on from such expensive notebook computers.  I recently gave Fujitsu a hard time for the same thing (see $3K for Fujitsu's new notebook? Gimme a break!). That said, part of the deal here with Linux on Lenovo's notebooks is that you get the same great driver download support that Thinkpads are known for with Windows (I routinely check for new drivers for my Thinkpad and they're easy to find on Lenovo's Web site). Why is this important? Notebooks in particular are pretty sensitive to the driver issue when it comes to Linux.

For most notebooks, there's almost always better support for Windows and if you've take it upon yourself to load Linux onto your laptop, then you're often on your own when it comes to getting all the hardware properly "driven" given that native Linux drivers are often not available from the notebook or component manufacturers.  Checking Lenovo's Web site, they have new drivers for the T60p that are specifically for Linux, some of which are dated yesterday and today including that all important one for power management.

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  • At $3,000+...

    ... buyers are not selecting Linux to save money. If the Mac has cachet and Windows the drivers, who'd be the intended market?
    Anton Philidor
  • The big question, as always

    ... is how much extra do they charge for Linux compared to MSWindows?

    For quite a while Dell set the going rate at $100 over the preload with MSWinXPPro plus MSOffice. I'll be curious to compare Lenovo to Dell's premium.
    Yagotta B. Kidding
    • Windos Laptops

      Which, of course, makes sense to simply purchase the laptop and then install your favorite distro.
      AAWW
  • Since...

    Lenovo (China Incorporated) is big on Linux, is it any wonder?--and if you have a modicum of experience using SUSE on Laptops, you'd have concluded that with a T-bone IBM laptop SuSE will flame--put SuSE on a vintage laptop (2-3 years old and compare it to Windows XP--and it is plainly evident that SUSE outpeforms.

    (George Ou please--no boot time comparisons--Oh the Humanity!)

    You don't have to give up Windows either when you commit to SUSE--just download VMWare Server (free) and give say 8gigs and run an XP VM session if you are still need that Windows app.

    My hat off to VMWare for a superb product line.

    This is not a coincidence folks--it's a trend.
    Apple has Parallels, Boot Camp for the same reason.

    (Anton please, no more 'riddles'--go out and bleeping try SUSE for once!)

    Bueler? ;)

    Thanks.
    D T Schmitz
  • Linux based Laptops

    The article incorrectly states that the Levono is the first laptop pre-loaded with Linux. Actually, there are a number of vendors that market Linux based laptops- as a simple Google search would have shown.
    AAWW
  • HP Has Got Novell's Back

    [url=http://www.devxnews.com/article.php/3620611]This story[/url] came out on July 16.

    And there you have it!
    D T Schmitz
  • Binary driver hell :(

    Sadly this Laptop includes an ATI video card which most likely means that the drivers will be binary drivers. Binary drivers are illegal, doesn't work well and unethical!

    Read this OLS keynote speach for more information: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html

    Scroll halfway down to the first slide with red text for the relevant info.
    pointwood
    • Badly Misinformed

      Binary? Well, no.
      Take a look at the [url=http://en.opensuse.org/Radeon]Radeon X11 open source driver[/url]

      Also, rumor has it that AMD will opensource the ATI drivers.

      Bueler? ;)
      D T Schmitz
      • Oh yes...

        If you look into that, it is for some of ATI's older cards - if you want 3D acceleration on any of their newer cards, you'll need their binary driver.

        I hope AMD will open source the driver, however I don't give much into that rumor. I simply don't think open sourcing video card drivers have been on the agenda in regards to the merger. We might hear something some months after an eventual merger, but anything said before that should be taking with truckloads of salt.

        Lenovo should have opted for an Intel video card instead for that laptop. They are properly supported in Linux with open source drivers
        pointwood