Barcelona will give AMD the upper hand in quad core

Barcelona will give AMD the upper hand in quad core

Summary: With Barcelona, AMD will regain performance leadership and will be able to control pricing for a while, versus Intel, which has been hammering AMD on pricing at the low end processor segment, said industry analyst Nathan Brookwood of Insight 64."It looks like AMD is trying to match Intel in terms of both two-year cadence in process manufacturing cycles and in developing new cores.

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With Barcelona, AMD will regain performance leadership and will be able to control pricing for a while, versus Intel, which has been hammering AMD on pricing at the low end processor segment, said industry analyst Nathan Brookwood of Insight 64.

"It looks like AMD is trying to match Intel in terms of both two-year cadence in process manufacturing cycles and in developing new cores. AMD didn't call its new core "tic-tock" like Intel (AMD's new cores are called Bobcat and Bulldozer). It will be interesting if either one can clean the others' clock," Brookwood quipped.

Brookwood was also impressed by Barcelona's performance. "They finally put at least one stake in the ground with SPECfp_rate2006 benchmark. The 69.5 score is the highest posted for a single chip so far. The 2.0 GHz Barcelona had a 30 percent per watt advantage versus Intel's Xeon 5345 quad core. "It's dramatically better than Xeon and better by 20 percent over the IBM Power6, the previous leader in the benchmark. It's clear the technical computing crowd is going to love this chip."

In that vein, the Texas Advanced Computing Center is working with Sun and AMD to create a Barcelona-based supercomputer that takes advantage of the processor's scalability and system architecture.

Regarding Bobcat, AMD's new core designed for mobile and consumer electronic devices, Brookwood said that AMD has more to bring to a system on a chip design than Intel because of its acquisition of ATI.

Topics: Intel, Processors

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  • Note that they're only talking about floating point

    Note that they're only talking about floating point performance which is only used by a very small market. While that market is high-margin, the volumes are too low to make a difference.

    For normal business computing, the top-of-the-line 95 watt Barcelona 2.0 will have less performance than a 50 watt Intel Clovertown 2.0 GHz processor. The problem for AMD is that Intel's Clovertown is up to 3 GHz and even faster 45nm Intel Penryn processors are being released this year while AMD is struggling to release 2.0 GHz.
    georgeou
    • Not to mention that the 5345 is a weakling

      I have been running a pair of 5355s for some time now. They perform extordinarily fast and currently I am only using two of the eight cores. I am waiting for an application upgrade to take place to improve the multithreading performance.
      nucrash
    • Unneeded Performance

      In a normal business computing enviornment you can't tell if you're running a top of the line processsor.

      You need to get out and work in the real world for a while george.
      kyron.gustafson@...
      • Performance isn't about individual perceptions

        Performance isn't about individual perceptions; it's about scalability and keeping response times below SLA. I know AMD doesn't like to talk about performance any more, but don't drink the Kool-aid.
        georgeou
  • Nathan who?

    Ask Nathan whether he's collecting fees for his commentary from AMD.
    thetruthhurts
  • The end is near for Intel - again

    This time it's for real. Really.
    Prognosticator
    • Yes and the Quad Father was a Core 2 Duo killer

      AMD has been doing nothing but falling over their own two feet, making ridiculously stupid mistakes that only Intel would have made in the past.

      Let's take the Quad FX for starters. This was a system that was over priced and required way too much power from the start. A streamlined version with different vendors supplying the board would have opened up competition to allow that platform to gain some speed. Instead we are stuck with an over priced, under powered, energy sucking poorly managed foot warmer.

      ASUS could have still been the main supplier. ATI could have had a Crossfire edition of that board. Many things could have been done to make it better, but AMD choose to foul that up.

      I will sit and wait. I want AMD to win, but until they bring something to the big game, I will wait before calling them the big victor.
      nucrash
    • :D

      Keep dreaming.
      xxn1927
  • I think AMD without Intel would be like spyware

    I think the consumers benefit big time when there are a few chippers developing new chips with better processing, speed and capabilities. I can't remember buying a board or PC with an intel chip but I'm here to tell you I'd support Intel in a heart beat. The reason is simple, AMD without Intel would be very much like too much spyware on a PC, it slows down and it works at a snails pace.
    This would be bad, very bad for consumers as this business has evolved from the 88 mhz PC's at a very fast, incredible pace. The truth is if only one cpu chip maker were around the competition would not be there, no competition, progress slows because there is no motive to develop better, faster and we'd all lose, OK ?
    intrepi@...