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Can Xoom's lure of 4G get past price tag, iPad2?

By | February 24, 2011, 3:45am PST

Summary: The tablet wars are in full swing - with Xoom’s release today, the iPad 2 details coming next week and even the arrival of Playbook and TouchPad now in the mix. How big of a role will 4G make in the decision making process.

The geek grenades are flying as the Big Battle of the Tablet PC wars kicks into high gear. And smart shoppers will lay low until the dust has settled - definitely after March 2 and probably even longer.

The Motorola Xoom, the highly anticipated Google Android 3 tablet that’s considered to be the first real contender to the iPad, is being released today. But don’t expect any long lines outside Verizon stores for it. Now that Apple has issued invitations for a news event next week, the buzz is that details of the iPad 2 will be out sooner, rather than later.

The early reviews of the Xoom have been pretty upbeat, meaning that Google and Motorola may have come up with a true technological winner, even if the iPad 2 steals the spotlight and critics focus on the price tag - $600 with a two-year Verizon contract and $800 without contract. Reviewers, as expected, have been comparing every nook and cranny of the Xoom to the current version of the iPad. And it seems to be holding up well, even beating the current version of the iPad in some areas. It’s biggest downfall: price.

In a post earlier this month, I wondered if Google’s Android 3 - aka Honeycomb - had what it takes to beat Apple by being “just as good” as the iPad and decided that, if it could beat on price, then good enough was all it would take. Unfortunately, Motorola, Google and Verizon choked on pricing. And now iPad2 rumors are stealing the buzz around the actual release.

There’s one last trump card for the Xoom - and that’s the upgrade to 4G LTE later this year. If the device itself is “just as good” as the iPad - and even the iPad2 - but it will handle 4G speeds, then that just could be enough for some buyers to tilt toward the Xoom instead of the iPad2.

You can’t underestimate the significance of 4G for some buyers - and truth be told, Apple is falling short in that race. There were major moans and groans when Apple finally announced an iPhone for Verizon and then said it would only be available on a 3G network. Apple’s reasoning: users said they wanted a Verizon phone now, not tomorrow.

Bottom line: Apple’s iPhone isn’t ready for 4G yet - and there’s been no hint that the iPad 2 will be equipped to handle 4G mobile broadband either.”  The pricing issue for the Xoom is a big deal - don’t get me wrong - but the 4G issue is also a big deal for Apple.

Apple still has the upper-hand here: First, because it’s the incumbent with an already established track record, and second, because Apple’s price tags are better looking than Xoom’s.

Those in the market for a tablet PC right away are about to come across some good, old-fashioned competitive pricing options, a market where even the leader is working to hold on to its momentum while competitors try to steal it. Those who are in the market for a tablet PC later this year may find even better pricing, as well as a greater number of options, by waiting a few more months.

The grenades are still flying in this tablet war - and will be for some time.

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richdave 3rd Mar 2011
There are many of us who have been burned so badly by Apple that we will never own anything Apple.
Considering that the Xoom has Flash, the iPad never will, the Xoom has better hardware - the Tegra 2 is a very capable and versatile hardware platform, the Xoom already has the support of a huge Android dev network, these things give it a huge leg up over anything Apple can offer. Add in Honeycomb, 4G, and the Xoom's price point actually makes sense. Considering that the Xoom handily beats the iPads current specs, and will probably be comparable or better than the iPad 2's, I would much rather give my money to Motorola and Verizon than line Steve's pockets anymore
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Bruizer Updated - 24th Feb 2011
@OSbender

The Xoom is actually missing Flash and can't even view its own website. Maybe a few weeks is 20 days or so. Perhaps Spring is June 19th. It is not like Adobe has been able to deliver a compelling mobile Flash experience yet. Yes, I know, if you disable Flash with on demand loading, it works great.

The Tegra 2 is OK but you are comparing it to a 10 month old platform. But given that iOS is simply faster, in general, than Android, much of the Tegra 2 advantage is negated even when compared to a 10 month old device.

The iOS developer network is actually larger than the Android network. iOS has substantially better tools. iOS actually makes money for its developers. The App Store is only 4 months older than the market place and it has 2X the number of apps. The iPad alone has nearly 1/2 the Apps of Android's Market Place. So how is Android's weak developer network a "benefit"? The SDK was released 1 day before the device? Seriously? Why was the full Honeycomb SDK not released 3-4 months ago?

The 4G? Come on, that is a planned recall. And it will take a week. Sometime in the future.

The better question is, why not actually wait until its key technologies like Flash, 4G and Applications are ready?
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@Bruizer - how is it faster? benchmarks, please.

Also, while the OS may or may not need much RAM, the iPad having 256MB (source: macrumors.com) is going to crimp both developers and multitasking. Heck, the iPhone can't even download app updates the moment I click on any other app to launch (iOS 4.2). (I own a 3GS with iOS4.2 and Motorola Atrix. I've used both OSes and iOS is _inferior_, particularly when it comes to multitasking. Reading up on the iPad having 256MB of RAM, it's easy to see why Apple locked down on the ability in the first place. Skimp skimp skimp.)

As for "actually makes money", you might want to read this article: http://wmpoweruser.com/average-iphone-app-only-earns-2-per-day-or-why-the-app-store-is-a-fools-errand/
@Bruizer Dual Core Protection against those monthly cycles that affect all you iCrAppleholics. Where you all end up BLEEDING 6 COLORS for CrApple's Magical and Revolutionary Greed and iNazi control scheme!

Xoom on Android 3.0 has already kicked iFad 2 to the toilet to be flushed, not having near the features and for sure you'll be able to for the first time actually upload to iReport and FLASH.... baby, like you'll never see except on your (shipped cracked screen non bootable) i7 iMacs and other assorted over priced CrAppleware. lol.... EAT YOUR HEARTS all you bleeding iCrAppleholics with your iFads and iFad 2's! haha.....

btw.... FLASH use Dominates New Website Creation Tools in conjunction with HTML5. Where does that leave all you CrAppleholic losers? ....in the back alley waiting for your Quicktime (not so quick) to load videos and apps you can't see using it!!! lol.... iTunes? .....right.... lol... worst SECURITY DISASTER in History Waiting to Happen.... and when it does it'll burst like a bleeding 6 colors stuffed pig BALLOON!!! haha...

....so I guess it's good you have enough iPads and iPad 2's to go around to soak it all in the second time around!!! grin
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Bruizer 24th Feb 2011
The iPad is 10 months old. Do you think the next one, to be announced in a week, will still have 256 MB? Come on dude.

The iPhone 3G S (one of my test beds), for example, has no issue updating apps while another app is running even in its 256 MB of RAM. It does depend on the app though. You should try it, it works. Yes, I have used Android quiet a bit and it is a far cry from the usability iOS offers. It is slow, jerky and has a buggy WiFi stack. Point of reference is Droid X and Droid Incredible. I still remember being asked to shut down apps to answer the phone. That was on 1.5 and has long been fixed.

If developing for iOS is a fools errand (I know about WM Power User.com and find it mostly laughable) what is developing for Android? Down right stupid? Suicidal? Crazy? Android Apps represent 5% of the monetization of iOS apps.

The average iOS app makes over $5000/year. The average Android app? Less than $500/year.
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@Bruizer You can actually download Flash from the market right now. It blows for video since its not optimized for the hardware (Adobe certification is a fricken nightmare that is plaguing many a Android tablet), but it works perfectly fine for flash websites and what-not. Even my underpowered Archos 101 can run some video and all flash websites with the one in the market.
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@Bruizer

Whether or not you believe that Android 3.0 has or will have Flash support when it is released, the fact is that it will have it and very soon. Regardless what anyone at Apple tries to say, the lack of Flash support is a gaping hole in any platform that is serious about providing a full browser experience.

You are in complete denial if you believe that 4G on a tablet, or any mobile device, is a minor advantage. 4G as is it delivered by Verizon is a revolutionary advance forward that will allow the delivery of apps and services to mobile devices that have been previously unavailable.

But, the biggest advantage for Xoom, and all Android devices, is that Android is an open source OS, whereas iOS is controlled with monomaniacal zealotry. Android will continue to take more and more market share from Apple because it has become the standard OS for most smartphone manufacturers. Eventually, Android will have a similar marketshare in smartphones as Windows has in desktop PCs and Apple will have squandered their lead in the pursuit of total and absolute control.
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Epic Flash FAIL pic of the day
Bruizer 24th Feb 2011
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26574892@N07/5475257624/

Classic. The Xoom trying to display it's own marketing page bragging about it's Flash code.

And no, Flash 10.1 does not work on Honeycomb. Not even poorly. Perfect example of another mobile Flash failure is BBC Mobile. iOS:100% support. Android:a bit more complicated. All because Google thought Flash is a competitive advantage. Only Android fanboys think Flash is "essential" to the browsing experience.

Flash is on it's death bed and would be dead if Google had decided to support non-proprietary video standards.
@Bruizer "The better question is, why not actually wait until its key technologies like Flash, 4G and Applications are ready? "
And when will apple have these Key technologies (your words) ready?
Mart5.1
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Bruizer Updated - 24th Feb 2011
What advertised key technologies were not present at the iPads launch?

The iPad's software was stable and did not crash.

At CES the Xoom was 4G. Now it is 3G with a future recall.

Flash was demoed at CES doing videos and crashed ever 5-10 minutes. Now we hear Flash is not ready.



And the micro-SD card slot that does not work?

The product is 6 months from shipping as advertised.
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@Bruizer 4G is taking off, if the Xoom was on Sprint (like it should be) then it would be on 4G from day one. Not on a invisible LTE network or a fake 4G (HSPA+) network.
Android also has a very strong developer network. iOS is not really faster than Android, and Android does alot more than iOS does. Considering it is very bare bones and does nothing other than show some boring tiles. Android has widgets and notification panels, background applications, and all kinds of cool stuff that iOS doesn't have.
Also flash works fine on mobile. I have 0 Issues with it on my EVO 4G, and its set to enable all the time. When you are on 4G or Wifi loading flash isnt an issue.
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What an iCrAppletarded Fool! lol...
i2fun@... Updated - 24th Feb 2011
@Bruizer
Xoom will have FLASH 10.2 yah douche... in about 2 weeks! But laugh while you can fool.... you only make yourself look even more ignorant!!! ahaha..... as if that was possible! lol...

All you iCrAppleholics should gargle some Listerine before coming in here and opening your FAT TRAPS... lol... Oh... and as far as FLASH on the Web? Go shop around for having a web site built today. FLASH for you fools ignorant minds is being developed hand in hand with HTML5.... and that's on all the Major Sites and Network Sites Time Warner, NYC Times, MSN, Fox News, and every other network on the web! ....then they just feed you guys the leftover pig slop on your iCrApple Trash Devices!!!

Android Smartphones btw... lol.... since the 4th quarter 2010 are now #1 while CrApple's iPwned4 did just that... got OWNED losing more than 2% of the smartphone market! haha..... grin .......expect the same for CrApple's iFad iCrAppleware! wink zzzXoooommmm right pass all you iCrAppleholics!
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@OSbender: so even iPad (1) is better for users. But iPad 2 will be at least not slower than Xoom and iOS is faster itself.
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@denisrs When the iPad came out there were 0 iPad apps. But now that its Android's turn the fanboys wanna talk **** huh?
@denisrs Well at least it doesn't have twice the glass to break like iPhone 4 or a soda pop case that doesn't have as much recycle value as a six pack of beer! ....you know like the iCrApple iFad!!! btw.... I bet you fools still believe iPod Nano Touch is running iOS..... lol.... meanwhile Android isn't even looking back at poor CrApple iPhone losing market share like all the rest and like iFad will be doing soon enough!!! grin
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@OSbender Agreed.

In addition, I don't think the objective with the Xoom was to provide a low priced consumer device to make people forget about the ipad, it was to provide a fairly powerful and useful tablet device.
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@OSbender The problem with wearing your ridiculous prejudices on your sleeve this way is that we can't then take anything you say seriously - as if we were going to anyway, especially considering how badly you research a subject before posting.

First poster? Faux anarchic? zealot?

No-one cares who you give your money to.
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Already less than stellar reviews
Ron Burgundy 24th Feb 2011
FAIL
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Excellent Comment!
trickytom3 24th Feb 2011
@Ron Burgundy

How do you keep it so fresh?
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Wow, I can hardly wait for iPad two, this is gonna be good I think.

www.privacy-resources.at.tc
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"lure of 4g"?
matthew_maurice 24th Feb 2011
You mean "bait and switch" right? In the same way that Flash support depended upon reading the "fine print." 4G "upgradeability" requires a magnifying glass as well. First, there's no firm date for availability (seemingly a theme with the Xoom), and second to get 4g, once it's actually available, will require sending your Xoom back to Motorola! http://www.slashgear.com/verizon-details-motorola-xoom-4g-lte-upgrade-must-send-off-slate-24135767/ Classic!
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@matthew_maurice yea that is pretty useless. It does seem like a letdown. I'm jsut waiting for HTC to do it real big like they did with the EVO 4G, and release a EVO 4G Tablet on Sprint and take the market by storm like they did with the original EVO.
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I would want the Wi-Fi
Hameiri 24th Feb 2011
My phone has 4G hotspot capability. So for me, the iPad2 and the Xoom would be 4G.

This flash thing is a bit worrying though.
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@Hameiri yea but the price for the Wifi Model is a bit too high.
Seriously, given the choice between "we'll get it to you in a couple of months", or "I'll never let your device run flash"...I'll take the former.

As to issue of having to send my unit back for the 4G upgrade... Don't I have to send my iPad back for a new battery?
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@trickytom3

Sure, "if" the battery fails. Of course, it's not an "if" for the Xoom; the 4g hardware isn't ready, so they can't install it. Why isn't it ready? The same reason Flash isn't ready, and the SD card slot is currently inactive: the product was rushed. So, underbaked and overpriced. Yes, the specs are great, but specs are not what sells; experiences do. And with its speakers and power button on the back of the unit (brilliant), features you have to wait for and battery life that doesn't match the iPad even before the 4G radio and Flash are installed, this isn't a tough call for the consumer that doesn't care about specs. Which happens to be 99% of them.
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@will.todd@...
The thing is a consumer with a brain wants a device trhat is powerful and capable which the ipad falls way short of. Ill give you it sucks the xoom isnt out the box fully ready but part of that is verizons slow 4G lte setup and exspansion.I do prefer the 10 inch screen over the 7 inch screen but as a repair tech apple products are just poorly made. Most of what i reapir are apple ipods and iphones dozens a week which will stop now that the 3Gs is waht $50 new its cheaper to get a new one then fix now. The apple battery thing is a big issue with the smart consumer as I know first hand how often apple batteries fail swell and explode and the pirate raping apple does to its consumers. Usually they charge $100 for a new iphone battery installed when the exact battery they install is readily avaliable for under $9 and it takes all of 1 hour to disassemble install and reassemble so they are just killing the customers. In ending though both the ipad and xoom are wildly overpriced for what they can do and not worth buy for over a $299 no contact item. $600 and up is just stupid to pay for either.
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Very poor logic and simile, TT3
vulpine@... 24th Feb 2011
@trickytom3:
"Seriously, given the choice between "we'll get it to you in a couple of months", or "I'll never let your device run flash"...I'll take the former."
Why, when Flash has such a bad reputation on every mobile device so far, do you insist that Flash has to be the telling factor? Add to this the apparent fact that Flash use is actually going down, not up, on many web pages and you really have to wonder why so many techies in particular feel they have to have it. Quite honestly, the average consumer could care less.

"As to issue of having to send my unit back for the 4G upgrade... Don't I have to send my iPad back for a new battery?"
Why do you relate an optional upgrade to a non-event? Yes, you have to take that Xoom back to either replace it or have G4 reception installed, but you should never have to take the iPad back for a replacement battery during its operational lifetime -- that's why the battery is sealed inside. So far I've gone nearly a year on my original iPad battery and I still get as much operational and standby battery life now as I did when it was brand-new; so does everybody else I know who owns one. As such, your simile between an optional choice and a non-event is poor reasoning indeed.
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Can someone tell me whether "4G" really exists? It certainly doesn't in Canada, so this is not a factor at all here. And in the US, all I hear is about different definitions of what "4G" is, very limited access, etc.
So, in the end, does 4G really matter? Maybe in 3 years...! Right now, it's all hype!
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@rossdav@...

Well, in Canada, Telus is upgrading their HSPDA network to dual cell which gives them enough speed to qualify as 4G -- taking advantage of the ITU definition of what qualified as 4G being changed to allow other technologies to claim to be 4G. Otherwise, we'd be waiting for LTE Advanced or 802.16m WiMax with a minimum of 100Mbps for mobile and 1Gbps for fixed before saying 4G is here.

The current LTE implementation in the USA (Metro PCS and Verizon Wireless) are LTE and not LTE Advanced to the best of my knowledge.

And we should all try to remember that most of the numbers quoted for speed involve the concept of a single connection by a device parked close to the cell tower. Multiple connections and/or increased distance will cause the speed seen to drop like a paralyzed falcon.
@DNSB Yes, Verizon is rolling out LTE, not LTE Advanced. So technically, it'll take an uograde. For cells, this is a planned software upgrade only, just like EvDO to EvDO Rev A. Far as I know, though, its new client hardware.

Regular LTE with full 4x4 MIMO supports 300+ Mb/s down, which is substantially faster than anything else out there, but still short of the ITU's requirement of a peak of 1Gb/s for fixed nodes. Though of course, the ITU spec never said "4G", that's an informal term anyway. And they've done some backsliding on the 4G term, since basically everyone is saying 4G anyway, even if they're still using 3G tech (AT&T & TMo).

Of course tablet buyers are waiting to hear from Apple. And they do have something of an isse with 4G right now. Most cell phones show up as per carrier submodels in the USA and Canada, so each carrier can deal with their own 4G issues. But what does Apple do? They probably want to go for LTE if 4G is in the plans, but AT&T is not going hot with their LTE until late this year, or later. But does Apple really want to develop HSPA+ given its likely to go obsolete over this one product's lifetime? Can they get away with supporting only Verizon on 4G? Or are they just assuming, as in the past, that most iOS users don't know or care how their wireless network works?
@dave@... and of course, Verizon will have their speed caps, per user. They do have the bandwidth for 300Mb/s in at least many areas. Doesn't mean your client devices get more than 5-10Mb/s worth of that speed.
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Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't
GeoffMichael 24th Feb 2011
@rossdav@... I have an Evo 4g with Sprint and the 4g is only available in parts of Minneapolis, not St. Paul or the surrounding "burbs". $10.00 per month extra for nothing. When the contract is up, goodbye Sprint!
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No, it doesn't
vulpine@... 24th Feb 2011
@rossdav@... : At least in the US, what many of the carriers are calling 4G is really 3.5G -- an extension of third-generation capability rather than a true fourth generation. As such, right now it's nothing but a marketing ploy to convince customers that they are the most progressive company on the market. Personally, I'd far prefer truth to such tricks.
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@vulpine@... Its true. Only Sprint actually has '4G' active at the moment.
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RE: Can Xoom's lure of 4G get past price tag, iPad2?
markgower Updated - 24th Feb 2011
@ro@rossdav

I use 4G Verizon LTE ? it?s active in our major metro areas in Oklahoma.

I made a little twitter posting with it twitter.com and search for withheld1234

If your curious. I was impressed with it.
ssdav@...
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@markgower You LIE! "I use 4G Verizon LTE its active in our major metro areas in Oklahoma" ... all in the same breath? Only major metro area in OK is OK City. Just kidding!!!! I refused my wife to move to OK as they don't have a decent cell tower system or H.S. Internet in ANY of their metropolitan areas. Yes ... sitting here in N. VA with my 25/5 FiOS internet and loving it.
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RE: Can Xoom's lure of 4G get past price tag, iPad2?
Jimster480 Updated - 24th Feb 2011
@rossdav@... 4G exists here if your on Sprint. Their WiMAX is very much alive in basically all major metropolitan areas.
The killer application for tablets will be handwriting - the company that gets that will win the tablet race.

While 4G will be a differentiation factor it will not be the feature that will allow Motorola to sail past Apple. There are too many applications for Apple that are just not available on Android and the ads oh! the ads - Google has to sell ads to make money and sustain Android.
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@abc123a Handwriting? The "killer application for tablets"?? Why? Signature recognition maybe, but where's the need for handwriting?
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School ..... taking notes
wackoae 24th Feb 2011
@Graham Ellison It is not a killer feature, but a wanted feature. iPad will probably have a working version before anyone else.
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The 4G argument in this article is comical. There isn't even a finalized voice standard for LTE technologies, yet bloggers are asking where the 4G iPhone is. Not surprisingly, the lack of 4G hasn't stopped the iPhone from outselling every other platform on AT&T and Verizon for as long as its been on both. I think bloggers (this one included) should consider being a bit more in touch with the average consumer, and not just pandering to tech geeks.
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@will.todd@...

Both your statements are ridiculous. There is no LTE voice standard? Why would there be? LTE is a broadband data standard.

You, like all other Apple fanboys, love to parse statistics in Apple's favor. Apple iOS smartphones have been outsold by Android smartphones since the advent of the Motorola Droid. When you look at sales statistics for Android-based phones in comparison to iOS-based phones, there is no comparison. There is always a brief spike when the sheep swarm to their local store to buy the newest iPhone, but within a week Android is again the sales leader.
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The Androind sheeple are a funny lot
Bruizer 24th Feb 2011
@binxwalker

iOS has outsold Android (based on Google's numbers) every single quarter.
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@binxwalker

I doubt anyone is going to argue that iOS based phones are not being outsold by Android based phones. The more interesting stat to me is if Android based devices (phones, tablets, etc.) are outselling iOS based devices (iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch). From what I see in the K-12 environment at one client, seems as if most of the kids have an iPod Touch as their music player of choice which is playing havoc with their wireless network. Unfortunately, they are not in a position to afford to rejigger their wireless to handle this properly without spending money they don't have.
@binxwalker : When you consider that the majority of Android phones currently on the market in the US sell as half or even a quarter the price of the iPhone, you can't really claim Android is "better", only "cheaper." Meanwhile, the iPhones sales double every year, even with the cheaper Androids around.
@will.todd@... all 4G technologies are IP-only... in fact, IP6. Well, not sure about HSPA+... yes, it too is IP-only (you have to drop to HSPA to use simultaneous voice), not sure if they were smart enough to mandate IP6 back when HSPA+ was finalized,

The obvious answer is VoIP. Every smartphone is more than capable of handling VoIP in software. Verizon had talked about supporting it for EvDO voice, but bailed on that. If they don't integrate this directly into their network, folks with good 4G coverage will be using alternate providers for VoIP, just tapping Verizon for data only accounts.
What an unfortunate name choice. I can't believe it! XOOM which can also be pronounce "EXHUME". Maybe the name is inspired?
In my area no 4G for at least 18 months. So if I had to choose between iPad and Xoom I would go with the iPad. I work next door to an Apple store. I have played with the iPad and am very happy with what it does.
and I can get an Ipad on Verizon when?
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richdave 3rd Mar 2011
There are many of us who have been burned so badly by Apple that we will never own anything Apple.

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