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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Does Google+ make Facebook the new MySpace?

By | July 1, 2011, 12:46pm PDT

Summary: Google+ has the potential to topple the Facebook behemoth but it needs to be much better than Facebook to do so.

It might. The answer lies with Google. It won’t take a lot of convincing for geeks to switch from Facebook to Google+ but for Ma and Pa Kettle, well, that’s a different story. Huey, Dewey and Louie Kettle will use both for a while but will end up gravitating to Google+, which might well turn Facebook into the next MySpace. Why? Because Google+ is cooler. Much cooler. Or, at least it could be.

The real question is, “Do we need another social networking outlet.” The answer is, “No, we absolutely do not.” We need a social networking outlet that’s actually social in nature. I know that’s a crazy idea but apparently what I think of as social is not what the general public thinks of as social. I see social networking as interacting, talking, discussing and not simply posting pictures and comments for others to comment on. People have a need to be social–really social.

Google+ is on the right track with some of their features.

By now you’ve read about Circles and Hangouts and how you can group people you “friend” into Friends, Acquaintances and Family–so I won’t bother with rehashing that for you.

But, what makes Google+ so much more compelling than Facebook, if it isn’t those features?

It’s Google.

Like Apple, Google has that special something that you can’t quite put your finger on that makes it irresistible. The French call it, “Je ne sais quois,” which translates to, “I don’t know what.” It’s what makes certain products and services so good that we must have them and use them, though we’re not sure why.

I’ve tried hating Apple. I’ve made fun of the one-button mouse for years. I’ve tried to hate Google too. But, there’s nothing better than GMail. Google’s search engine is the best. It’s that same thing that makes us hate Microsoft Windows but we still use it. It’s that elusive thing that would make me a billionaire if I could crack the code.

We used to love MySpace. Nothing was cooler than MySpace. Now we make fun of it. We scoff at anyone who still mentions it with a positive tone.

Facebook will have the same fate as MySpace, if Google plays the game correctly. Facebook will become an albatross and we’ll make fun of it. We’ll laugh at ourselves for ever having used it. Instead of admitting our early adoption of it, we’ll brag about being one of the early bailouts from its now sunken hull. And, Google+ will cast its long shadow upon what was once Facebook’s grand illusion.

But, what will it take to convince a half billion Facebook users to switch to Google+?

I have some ideas.

  • Make it really easy to use - make it easier than it is now. It’s kind of like switching from Windows to Linux. People won’t do it, if they don’t understand it.
  • Make it easy to switch - copy their pictures, friends, games and all other Facebook info to Google+.
  • Give people a compelling reason to switch - Develop features that Facebook doesn’t have. I have some examples below.
  • Keep security and privacy at the top of the list - Facebook has had too many security flaws. Keep Google+ safe and sane.
  • Change the name from Google+ to Plus - The name Google+ doesn’t flow well. Plus is better. Better yet, have a contest to rename it, reward the winner handsomely. I don’t think you should use FaceGoo. That won’t sell.
  • Grant exclusive live chatback interviews to your favorite ZDNet writer (It had better be me) to discuss Google+ and its new features.
I really think you, Google, should pay me for these ideas but I won’t hold my breath waiting for the check (but I do have a number in mind), so here they are as I’ve thought of them. And, don’t tell me you’ve already thought of all of them because I know you haven’t.
  1. Channels - Almost a ustream setup where Plussers can go to get live entertainment. Are you guys buying Hulu? Might be a good use of that. Make my expensive cable TV obsolete, please.
  2. Venues - Where Plussers can go for Coffee House entertainment from amateurs. Comedy, poetry and indie music.
  3. Film Fests - A place where independent filmmakers can pitch their movies, show their movies and discuss movies.
  4. Forums - Rooms where discussions can take place. Plussers can use these rooms as virtual conference rooms for all kinds of purposes.
  5. Town Halls - A place where Plussers can have live talkbacks with their local, state and federal politicians.
  6. Celebrity Chat - Authors, TV personalities and Film stars can sit down and talk with their fans. A talk show without a host.
  7. Classrooms - Allow entire classrooms to be conducted online. Secondary, college and adult education all brought to you by Google+.
  8. Trade Shows - Who wouldn’t love to go to a virtual trade show? Let me have the ability to connect to a trade show and visit booths virtually.
Make social networking a truly social experience. Facebook is not social. It’s an online forum that needs a good squashing. It should pass into annals of Internet history as a fad that didn’t make the cut. It would have really worked better about a decade ago. Today, not so much. Yes, Facebook is popular but it falls short of what we really need–the need to be social.

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Ken Hess

Kenneth 'Ken' Hess is a full-time Windows and Linux system administrator with over 15 years of experience with Mac, Linux, UNIX, and Windows systems in large multi-data center environments.

Ken writes on a variety of topics including interoperability, virtualization, data center operations, databases, and open source software. He has written and co-written books on Linux, databases, and virtualization. He currently writes a System Administration column for Linux Magazine and is a regular contributor to Linux User & Developer magazine, ServerWatch.com's Trends and InfoStor. He often contributes to other online and print publications as well.

His first computer was a Commodore VIC-20, which he purchased because William Shatner was in the commercials.

In his limited spare time, Ken enjoys painting, drawing, and flinging angry birds at fortified pigs.

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RE: Does Google make Facebook the new MySpace?
emilylucidica 18th Oct
I don't think Facebook will become the new Myspace. Facebook only came out about a year or so after Myspace became popular. Facebook has now been popular for about 4 years and so the users have got used to it and have even become loyal to it, I think. Google+ is going to really have to pull something out of the bag to become the social media leader now. People are used to using Facebook, the majority are happy with using it, and don't have any issues with it. Google+ may have some better features, but Facebook is forever updating itself, so I don't think this is going to be an issue for them.
There's a blog article on Google's managers not even using Google+ much themselves which is quite amusing, it shows the stats of how many of them are active users http://www.lucidica.com/blog/cto/management-of-google-dont-seem-to-love-google/ if you're interested in stats for Google+ you may want to take a look
These are all very neat ideas but implementing them contravenes your very first suggestion of making it easy to use. These are features that can be added as the product matures but in the meantime,they just have to stick with your first suggestion. So if you really want that check, you can let them know how to do just that.
@drfrenzo
Thanks for this information! I love this website.

ville lago di garda
Definitely some good ideas here. As do you, I believe that the assets Google has at its disposal pose a lot of promise for Google+ and a lot of headaches for Mr. Zuckerberg. Google has a great opportunity to become a comprehensive internet experience, doing away with yet another reason users might have had to do something off of their site. Writing for the EE Tech News yesterday, I brought up a few similar points and alluded to the same potential MySpace-like fate of Facebook. http://www.experts-exchange.com/blogs/EE-Tech-News/B_5343-Google-Google-s-Next-Flop-or-Next-On-Top.html
@drfrenzo, I believe Google could keep doing in the way other g-apps are: they're available for anyone.. who searches / wants it.
In google.com, we have in the upper left side the links for books, calendar and all that stuff. It could be done also in plus. Easy and amazing, isn't it?
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Too soon to tell
facebook@... 1st Jul
By limiting the early adopters to those that are most likely to give fawning reviews, it is too soon to tell if it is even a viable platform. Google+ may be the next Google Wave.
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@facebook@...

If they make my improvements, I'll fawn.
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and imagine facebooks' reaction when they become unfavoured because of google+ (or something else): Knowing their lack of privacy concerns, they will probably sell all their data (and thus ours) to anyone who's willing to throw in a dime.
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@facebook@... And there's a lot of drooling over all things G in this article- no- favorable review.
And to use "security and privacy" in the same sentence with "google" is almost laughable... It's roughly equivalent to using "Apple" in the same sentence with "basement-bargain price"!
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So your answer is no.
Bruizer 1st Jul
After reading your write up.

Lots of Buzz going around on Google+ but I don't think it will ever really catch a wave.
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Judging from your 8 suggestions
wizard57m@... 1st Jul
it sounds like you think Google should turn into...
AOL! I'm sure Google will copy what they think
will grab eyeballs for ads!
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Good suggestions. Facebook is on the way down.
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RE: Does Google make Facebook the new MySpace?
shellcodes_coder Updated - 1st Jul
They need to give us complete control over our privacy. Yes and if they do so, Google will def. win. They should change the name too. For eg, people aren't gonna type googleplus.com or plus.google.com to get there, they should change the name of Google Plus to something that really sounds cool...
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I hate facebook, but
sackbut 1st Jul
just because a bunch of you geeks giggle over google+ doesn't mean crap to the masses.

I don't see any success at google except search and gmail.

gmail's interface sucks as bad as facebook's because they're both written by geeks. If apple wrote iOS as badly as google or facebook, the iPhone would have disappeared its first year and apple would still depending on its revenue from iPod.
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"Like Apple, Google has that special something that you can?t quite put your finger on that makes it irresistible."

Uh, what? I find Google's lack of concern for anything privacy related very resistable. In fact, I find it pretty easy to resist using their services. I enjoy a Google free lifestyle. And I'll never go back.
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Google+ is not that great and it will be be able to sway millions to it, yes it will be a smaller player for few months or maybe a year and then will be cut off.

Google never patented these ideas, neither do you, if they are good, will be in fb in next few months, building features is lot easier than building communities.

my couple of cents.

regards,
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@deep@...
It's not just the ideas, Google also has the infrastructure and skills to make my...um,...their dreams come true.
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@khess the same way they did with orkut, buzz or wave. I think google + is nothing but "me too" share some data with me. As soon as the "artificially" created "scarecity" of invites are removed, it will die
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Google ?
7slocal 3rd Jul
Nice article Ken. I love your ideas. "But, what will it take to convince a half billion Facebook users to switch to Google+?
I have some ideas.Make it really easy to use - make it easier than it is now. It?s kind of like switching from Windows to Linux. People won?t do it, if they don?t understand it.
Make it easy to switch - copy their pictures, friends, games and all other Facebook info to Google+.
Give people a compelling reason to switch - Develop features that Facebook doesn?t have. I have some examples below.
Keep security and privacy at the top of the list - Facebook has had too many security flaws. Keep Google+ safe and sane.
Change the name from Google+ to Plus - The name Google+ doesn?t flow well. Plus is better. Better yet, have a contest to rename it, reward the winner handsomely. I don?t think you should use FaceGoo. That won?t sell."

I sent google executives bus. proposals right before gwave came out. I heard nothing. But your ideas, were in my proposals to google.

The sad fact is you wont get a check and neither will I. google likes to take ideas and try to use them as their own. gbuzz copies twitter, android copies iPhone, google images copied Bing images. Google does not like to help the people that help them. Sad but true.

If you want check out some of what google + "might" have (borrowed/stole with out compensation) from the bus. proposals I sent google 2+ years ago.

http://www.7slocal.com
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For someone talking up google+ so much I dont see any +1 button anywhere here wink
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LOL!

^^ that's what I did when I read this article.

Do you really think anybody has the ability to sway the opinion of 750 million Facebook users? Seriously, Ken...come back to reality.

For the record, I still have my Google Wave account...and, I occasionally check in on Myspace...not to mention numerous other "defunct" sites...but, you're talking almost a 5th of the world's population on Facebook...I don't think even Google can come up with a reason good enough for that many people to jump ship at Facebook and come to Google+...it's not going to happen.
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Google will bomb
Gis Bun 4th Jul
Google's previous 2 attempts at a social network bombed. They are 700+ million behind Facebook. Even a limited invitation for some to test Google+ caused the servers to crap out [according to a report]. So whoever thinks Facebook will be like MySpace because [solely] of Google+ is on something....
So much azz-kissing, so much bending over. Geez! It's not the second coming of the Messiah. Give the people at home a break, and hopefully, they didn't read the article after having lunch.
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Make it easy to switch
LSWVN 5th Jul
There was an extension to make it easy to switch but facebook is now blocking it.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-blocks-google-chrome-extension-for-exporting-friends/1935
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Grandma
vahnx 7th Jul
The only way my grandma will use Google+ is if I convinced her and all her girlfriends were already on it. Facebook is too much a behemoth to get all grandmas off of it.
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The biggest factor
DenverSEOmarketing 22nd Sep
I tthink the biggest factor is how they manage the provacy ogf the information. It may take a while for people to sign up if they feel that they will be at risk of losing the privacy of their gmails accounts. Wit everything interconnected its really hard to say what's going to be automatically posted on the Google+ profiles and posts and what 's not


Good post
Denver Colorado Web Design SEO, Search Engine Optimization Colorado
I am trying to get my friends and family to cut over but it is a tough sell as all their data is on facebook and to migrate is a pain in the !@#$.

Not sure how they could ever have a migration tool as facebook has all of the data and they will not give that up, that's for sure.

Just like myspace, people just migrated slowly...it does take time.

I love the google+ interface, i do think the name STINKS!!! Google does know how to write very intuitive browser apps and it is very easy to use and the circles is a #1 reason to cut over. The way they handle privacy is awesome!!!!

I am just waiting for everyone else...I feel like i am talking to myself in my posts...
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I don't think Facebook will become the new Myspace. Facebook only came out about a year or so after Myspace became popular. Facebook has now been popular for about 4 years and so the users have got used to it and have even become loyal to it, I think. Google+ is going to really have to pull something out of the bag to become the social media leader now. People are used to using Facebook, the majority are happy with using it, and don't have any issues with it. Google+ may have some better features, but Facebook is forever updating itself, so I don't think this is going to be an issue for them.
There's a blog article on Google's managers not even using Google+ much themselves which is quite amusing, it shows the stats of how many of them are active users http://www.lucidica.com/blog/cto/management-of-google-dont-seem-to-love-google/ if you're interested in stats for Google+ you may want to take a look

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