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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Facebook's new messaging system: More than just email?

By | November 15, 2010, 10:58am PST

Summary: Facebook today launched a new messaging system that rethinks how people communicate and tries to take communications beyond everyday e-mail.

Facebook, with more than 500 million users communicating with each other daily, is looking to reinvent communications - and not just email.

The company today is introducing a three-pronged system that strives to not necessarily change the way we communicate but to make it more efficient, more personal and definitely simpler. And, of course, Facebook wants to make it seamless across the platforms and devices we’re already using.

At a press event in San Francisco this morning, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg stressed that this is not “Facebook email,” which was the general belief in the guessing game that surrounded this event. Yes, everyone will soon have the option of securing an @facebook.com email address if they so choose - but it’s more than that. He said:

We’re using a mechansism that’s much simpler, like SMS or IM. We spent a lot of time building a handful of products that fit what we think of as a modern day messaging system.

At the heart of it all is the “social inbox,” a place where messages - again,not just email - are housed and filtered. Because Facebook already knows who your “friends” are, it can filter messages that it believes to be important to you. Everything else - not necessarily junk but maybe a newsletter or a bank statement or something from a family member who’s not on Facebook - goes into an “other” folder.

And if one of those messages from a friend would be better for the “other” folder or a message from someone who landed in “other” should be in the social inbox, the user can move them back and forth, adjusting how those emails are handled in the future.

In terms of the seamless integration that Zuckerberg and team talked about, the idea is that users should be able to have an IM appear as an SMS or an SMS appear as an email, giving people a way to use the communication tool they prefer without worrying about how the recipient will see it or respond to it.

That can be pretty powerful.

The company said the rollout to users will be a slow one - over the next couple of months - and initially will be spread via invitations. The idea is to let people get used to it and offer some feedback to Facebook about it.

Overall, I like what Facebook is doing here. For some time now, I’ve been squawking about how cumbersome and inefficient email continues to be - despite some of the breakthroughs that companies like Yahoo and Google have been pitching lately, such as Gmail’s Priority Inbox.

The jury will be out for a bit on whether Facebook’s effort is a winning solution or whether people will actually start using it. Zuckerberg stressed that no one at Facebook is expecting users to dump their Gmail or Yahoo mail accounts any time soon.

But the idea that some users, including the younger users who already prefer SMS and Facebook over traditional email systems, will shift the winds for future generations is something that makes me hopeful - hopeful that the clunky e-mail systems of today will someday be history.
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RE: Facebook's new messaging system: More than just email?
birumut Updated - 26th Jun
Well done! Thank you very much for professional templates and community edition
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Boy I can't tell you how much I want my bank statements coming in to a Facebook account.
@shollomon
just what I was thinking...no thanks
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No kidding.
shawkins 15th Nov 2010
@shollomon
LOL. Exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, I'll be glad to have my financial documents going to FB. Maybe when donkeys fly.
@shawkins - that happened in Shrek already. Old News! Mate! LOL
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Why do we need another message protocol?
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 15th Nov 2010
Google's jabber-based messaging Talk is fine.
@Dietrich T. Schmitz

This isn't another protocol - it's trying to merge several "protocols" into one.
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Mark Zuckerberg's face reminds me of a
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 15th Nov 2010
fish, not any particular species.
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If not, then keep it.
@shollomon - LOL!!!!
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Can't wait for Google to have a hissy fit over this one too, maybe they'll try to sue Facebook for having email and messaging and not including Google in on it.
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@Loverock Davidson
I'm guessing you consider Hotmail to be the best email service to ever walk this earth, right?
Someone said something about ?donkeys flying?, haven?t they?
So here we are, there came one who posts messages...
@Loverock Davidson I don't think Google will have to do anything. Google is all ready facing legal challenges and govt. inquiries over the same things Facebook is now unleashing. I think FB will just be the next in line for an investigation.
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A unified inbox? Yawn.
spambox@... 15th Nov 2010
Oooo, a unified inbox! I haven't seen one of those since about 1996 or so. How revolutionary!

What they should have done was to use their identity play to fix email, meaning make spam obsolete. Maybe that's the long term vision, but they didn't say anything like that.
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Actually... it is!
Shepps 26th Nov 2010
@spambox@... If you watch Facebook's video on the subject, they broach the subject of spam which they want to eliminate.

I still don't like the idea of the data-black-hole Facebook collecting emails....
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Ahhhhhhh.....Nope
Baer 15th Nov 2010
There is no way I want yet one more place to check for e mail and I am certainly NOT going to trust ANY web based social network to collect my normal e mail.
@Baer, that's the rub... I'm weary enough of Google popping my email for me, buggered if I'd let facebook do it.
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I love Zach Whittaker's Enron-parody logo.
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Facebook has already pretty much run me off with privacy issues and they think I will use this to communicate via e mail. Never say never, but I doubt I will.
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Hmmm
Toque_3D 15th Nov 2010
So, email filtering? Wow... Like that's not something my email programs can do! Holy crap FB is full of genius's or something.

No, thanks. I don't even tell FB real information. My friends know what name to look for me under. Everything else they don't need to know. Everyone is so uptight about privacy, but they will put up their entire worlds on FB and Twitter! I've found out where people I hate lived just because they posted a picture of their car and I reverse searched their license plates.

Information is not hard to get but if you are interested in privacy... Stop telling the world what you are doing every moment of the day. Stop giving websites unlimited access to your private lives. Don't let social networks control your lives.

Myspace was about this big before it fell from grace. There will be another site that will kill FB. Everyone will disagree but it is going to happen... Just wait and see.
@Toque_3D

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. happy

Its true that, if people simply practiced the long, forgotten art of "common sense" when it came to giving out their private information, they would be a lot better off.
since FB can't even run their game frontierville without crashing every 5 minutes who in their right mind would trust them with e-mail !!!!!!????
*YAWN*.
FB does not have my cell number or IM login, and I created a Gmail account just for FB that I ignore. If it's not important enough for someone to contact me directly, then I don't need to know about it, which, now that I think about it, is great since it cuts down on the nonsense communications.
Makes it so much easier to monitor American citizens.
I like it!

My vision:
Person ABC loves SMS - would use SMS for everything if they could
Person DEF loves email - email is their world
Person XYZ does it all - will use what they want when they want.
ABC send out an SMS - DEF can receiv via email, XYZ can receive wherever they want.

and vice versa!!!!

The sender uses the method of send, the receiver uses the method of viewing.

To me, email is like using a RR Silver Shadow to drive to the grocery store and SMS is like using a bike. I want something flexible that gives me the best of both. Tried the Google suite and just not there.... Maybe this will be.

I for one will stay tuned and hope...
@zenwalker I'm not sure what is supposed to be so groundbreaking here.
I don't need another e-mail, thank you.
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Facebook's plan to control you!
Fr0gM@... 15th Nov 2010
Facebook is developing every application to a point where they can control you. If you violate a Facebook policy, boom! They deactivate your account and you have no access to your information. You would have no access to Facebook Connect, therefore you can not log into blogs, email, friends, etc...

I am sure Robin Sage would love to experiment with Facebook's Collaberated Messaging System.
Just a poor veiled attempt to take on gmail. Yet what's most surprising is they really don't get how people use email vs text. http://wp.me/pLu24-aS
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Not a chance
eMJayy 15th Nov 2010
There's a certain amount of privacy arising out of the way we use email today. My email addresses are only known to those I've given it to. Based on what I've read so far about this, everyone will get an @Facebook address. And it also seems that the name you use on Facebook will be attached to @Facebook as well. Sorry, but no thanks. This has 'spam haven' written all over it. For instance, if you use your FB account to log into websites and post comments there, your FB name is clearly visible for the world to see. What's to stop spammers from using that FB user information left on websites comments sections to figure out and then spam your FB email address?
I wouldn't trust MZ with anything private. In fact, I bet he's at my house right now digging through my garbage cans.
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Another way to enable stalkers
jacjar1 15th Nov 2010
and other creeps to invade our privacy...no thanks
500 million counted users, me being one of them. How many of those 500 haven't connected to Facebook for over a week, a month or months. Bloated numbers.
@thecatch

Yes me too until today, lots of people create accounts just to see what the hype is about.
I personally think the site is a confusing shambles.
Good riddance (hopefully)
"Facebook's new messaging system: More than just email?"

They're trying to be like Google, eh?

"That can be pretty powerful."

And pretty d*** confusing. Heaven knows countless permutations of this have been tried before - by both large corporations and small startups. I wish them luck, but with the warning that so far nobody's really gotten it right.
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Privacy nightmare.
kraterz 15th Nov 2010
This is a privacy nightmare. Facebook wants to link your phone number, personal email, IM, and facebook account.

Knowing how many times they shafted users by allowing personal data to be sold to third parties, and messing up privacy settings every now and then, I wonder how anyone more intelligent than a dormouse would consider using this system.
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True
DontBeEvil 15th Nov 2010
@kraterz

IMO, I dont need another email provider. But regarding privacy, how is this any different from gmail. Google goes through your emails and scans them to provide you ads. It is their business model to snoop into my life to show ads. If you trust Google with your data, you sure can trust Facebook.
Facebook can't even guarantee access to my account... and with all BIG BIZZ you cant get hold of anyone responsible to solve the problem... Zuckerberg, you suck;-)
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With Exchange and WinMo 6.1/6.5. Granted it isn't no cost, but it's also private.

And no I'm not still using WinMo.

- Sam
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No way
modemjunkie 15th Nov 2010
Of course, I once said who needs anything but a monitor that is amber on black.

But in the meantime, I prefer to keep my email separate from my browser, much less FB. (Although I can access my email through webmail if I have to.)
fully agree with you guys. Facebook is not the right email place for savvy people but is social networking for savvy??
Just because Facebook counts millions of users I think it's gonna be a hit!
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Is yourname@facebook.com possible??
hsvarun 16th Nov 2010
With around 500 million users you may never get your name@facebook.com.Now I won't change to FB Mail if I get something like name12213@facebook.com.

Heck, they may use your profile id nos and it may turn out to be like 1092783@facebook.com.
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Larry Dignan, Sam Diaz, Andrew Nusca
Zuckerberg the e Octomom of the internet.Pari-mutuel wagering or win place show ? That he keeps screwing with this crap-app until he falls on his fishface!
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Who needs open minds? Email is so perfect now ... how could anyone possibly improve it? And even if anyone could, what does Facebook know about creating anything new?
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The facebook chat is something they need to work. maybe some offline chat (as MSN does)
And what about the status spam? "I support if you have a heart please change your status with this text. 92.34% won't do it, will you?"
And what about marketing tagging? now your name is in a car someone is selling or in a new pant (from a store) or in another "wall photo"
And finally, what about Apps (like Farmville) Wall posting? maybe I want to play it but I don't want my friend's farmville automatically post in my wall "I found a sad lonely duck :(" The only way is to disable farmville or disable "friend posting on your wall" (i got to do this).
Better messaging, yeah! not on my fix list. thanks happy
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The facebook chat is something they need to work. maybe some offline chat (as MSN does)
And what about the status spam? "I support if you have a heart please change your status with this text. 92.34% won't do it, will you?"
And what about marketing tagging? now your name is in a car someone is selling or in a new pant (from a store) or in another "wall photo"
And finally, what about Apps (like Farmville) Wall posting? maybe I want to play it but I don't want my friend's farmville automatically post in my wall "I found a sad lonely duck :(" The only way is to disable farmville or disable "friend posting on your wall" (i got to do this).
Better messaging, yeah! not on my fix list. thanks happy
You can have your text messages forwarded to your email and vice-versa. So I am not sure what is new here, except CCing facebook on all your communications. That is innovation!
Is it just me or do some people seem to lack confidence in Face Books ability to maintain the confidentiality of their correspondences? ?8^)
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cool advice
westty 17th Nov 2010
From Sammy,
How on earth will anyone allow any social networking websites to house important and confidential messages like bank account details and more...except fools.
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Another advice
westty 17th Nov 2010
They should better research on how to make conversations and communications and user profiles on FB save and secured in any way and by any meas... That should be challenge for FB CEO MARK
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