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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Google, Oracle trial set for March 19 or later

By | January 4, 2012, 9:33am PST

Summary: Oracle is finally going to get its trial against Google started this spring…probably.

Oracle’s patent infringement suit against Google is set to go to trial officially this spring. U.S. Federal Judge William Alsup has issued an order that trial proceedings will begin on Monday, March 19 or later.

As a reminder, Oracle is suing Google regarding patented Java technology that appears on the Android mobile operating system.

Google’s lawyers have repeatedly responded by discussing Google’s relationship with Sun Microsystems, Java’s creator now owned by Oracle. Google argued that Sun was a big fan of Android from the start, seeing it as a tool to “spread news and word about Java.”

Basically, Google is saying if it wasn’t a problem with the creator at the time, then there isn’t a case for patent infringement.

Nevertheless, Alsup has acknowledged that the argument is an unstable one, and it is extremely likely that Google will have to hand over some money to Oracle. The exact amount is what remains to be determined at the trial.

Although this case has been tossed around between lawyers and in front of judges for months now, the road to an eventual trial start date for the Oracle v. Google case has had many twists and turns since last summer.

For starters, Oracle hoped to get a trial started as soon as possible last July when the two companies met at the United States Courthouse in San Francisco — only to be scolded by Judge Alsup for not properly specifying which exact patents that Google was allegedly violating.

The following day, it looked as though a trial would be imminent as Alsup assigned a trial start date on Halloween. Obviously, that hasn’t panned out — although it did become evident that a trial was inevitable as even dragging CEOs Larry Page and Larry Ellison couldn’t bring about a settlement.

Then just before October 31, Google petitioned Alsup regarding a series of questions that it believed still needed answering, and Alsup responded by delaying the trial to after the end of 2011.

The curious part about the pretrial order is that it stipulates the trial will start “a date on or after March 19.” The keyword there is “after,” so really, it might be just safer to pencil in March 19 if you’re really curious how the first day of this trial will begin.

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Rachel King is a staff writer for CBS Interactive in San Francisco. Before serving as a contributing editor at ZDNet in New York City for two years, she previously worked for The Business Insider, FastCompany.com, CNN's San Francisco bureau and the U.S. Department of State. Rachel has also written for MainStreet.com, Irish America Magazine and the New York Daily News, among others. Rachel has a B.A. in Mass Communications and History from the University of California, Berkeley and a M.S. in Journalism from Columbia University, where she served as art director for the student magazine, Plated.

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RE: Google, Oracle trial set for March 19 or later
THUFIR.HAWAT Updated - 25th Jan
@rpollard@... pardon, what license is iOS under again? Oh, right...none. I suppose somewhere in there is BSD Darwin, but it's buried deep and you'll never see the source code on that.

This Google thing is very simply about copyright. The whole patent thing is a side issue. This is about copyrighted code. That is, quite literally, copying (as in copyright) code. You just can't do that.

Joshua Bloch, a highly regarded Java programmer who's written excellent books on Java, admitted that he probably just copied code. Literally, copy and paste. You can't do that. That's what copyright is all about, copying. Like copying a DVD, book, or even code.

If you want to copy paste Java (I don't mean code written in Java, but Java itself) you can either comply with the GPL or acquire a license. This whole patent thing is nonsense. Again, it's all about copying Java. As in OpenJDK.

Go read Wikipedia and inform yourself.
this will improve Oracle's financial outlook by avoiding legal fees.
@The Linux Geek
Yeah, how stupid of them to allow Google to copy their code. They should apologize. As Apple should apologize to Google for allowing them to copy iOS and MS to allow them to copy the GUI they had spent a lot of R&D money on.
After all, shouldn't we just invent something and allow people to copy it instead of protect it. It's so silly to want to profit from a good idea. Shame on Oracle for trying to protect their investment.
A blog does not make a contract!
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Android is quasi-Linux. Apple iOS is NeXT based. No copying, totally different architectures. Try again with the "copying" myth that only Steve Jobs believed in.
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RE: Google, Oracle trial set for March 19 or later
THUFIR.HAWAT Updated - 25th Jan
@rpollard@... pardon, what license is iOS under again? Oh, right...none. I suppose somewhere in there is BSD Darwin, but it's buried deep and you'll never see the source code on that.

This Google thing is very simply about copyright. The whole patent thing is a side issue. This is about copyrighted code. That is, quite literally, copying (as in copyright) code. You just can't do that.

Joshua Bloch, a highly regarded Java programmer who's written excellent books on Java, admitted that he probably just copied code. Literally, copy and paste. You can't do that. That's what copyright is all about, copying. Like copying a DVD, book, or even code.

If you want to copy paste Java (I don't mean code written in Java, but Java itself) you can either comply with the GPL or acquire a license. This whole patent thing is nonsense. Again, it's all about copying Java. As in OpenJDK.

Go read Wikipedia and inform yourself.

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