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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Google plots its own subscription plan for publishers, jabs at Apple

By | February 16, 2011, 9:01am PST

Summary: The timing of this move is almost comical. It’s as if Google was waiting for Apple to detail its in-app purchase plan for subscriptions, let the backlash ensue and then swoop in to let publishers know there are alternatives.

In a not-so-shocking coincidence, Google announced its own subscription plan for publishers that allows content owners to set prices, terms and keep their relationships with customers.

The details of the plan were revealed in a blog post. Eric Schmidt highlighted Google One Pass in Germany. The timing of this move is almost comical. It’s as if Google was waiting for Apple to detail its in-app purchase plan for subscriptions, let the backlash ensue and then swoop in to let publishers know there are alternatives.

Google’s FAQ even addresses the question of why the search giant is launching Google One Pass. The answer: “Google cares a lot about helping high quality content thrive online and about the future of journalism.” Google should have said: “We have an opportunity to potentially kick Apple’s apps so we need your help.”

I argued that a few big app players could get together and do an App Store work stoppage. That scenario is unlikely, but it’s clear Apple and Google are battling for the publisher partnerships. Today, the iPad is the only tablet that’s a viable outlet for publishers. In a few months, Apple won’t have the field to itself as Android tablets hit the market en masse.

Google says its One Pass effort allows publishers to experiment with how they charge for content. The other key point: Google will let publishers give existing print subscribers free or discounted access to digital content. Google will handle these micropayments via Google Checkout.

As noted by the Nieman Journalism Lab, Google is offering flexibility. Remember that Google doesn’t need a 30 percent cut because it banks the advertising. The Financial Times, however, says Google will take a 10 percent cut of subscription revenue. That tax is much more reasonable. If you sell a subscription for $15 via Google you get $13.50. Apple will give you $10.50.

The rub here is that Apple has credit cards for its 160 million user accounts. Google doesn’t have those credit cards attached.

Bottom line: Publishers are still stuck in the middle of a giant app distribution pissing match, but at least Google and Apple are competing.

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RE: Google plots its own subscription plan for publishers, jabs at Apple
sashamart Updated - 9th Sep
@Bruizer iOS is still outselling Android by a wide margin. Yet alone comparing the installed base. We got an update on Android yesterday. Still 300,000/day. iOS last sacramento massage quater was 370,000+/day. Add to that an extra year of market and the installed base of Android does not currently even come close to the iOS eco-system. NOTE: I do not count OMS and Tapas because while they are based on Android, they do not run in the Android eco-system. Software written san jose dentist to OMS will not necessarily run on Google's Android and visa-versa.

So the question really is. Given the same user base size, would you rather have 2% willing to pay for content and make 70% of the revenues or have .1% willing to pay for content but make 90% of the revenues?

What will the blind Android fanboies say?

BTW: Both systems are going to do very well and saying things like "eat Apple's lunch" just shows a naive view of the market.
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All you have to do is look at the rounding error that is the revenue generated by the Android Market place to question if Android users are even willing to pay for content.

So do you pay up front or continue paying on the back-end in loss of advertising dollars?

Sounds like publishers are caught between a rock and a hard spot. Almost a loose-loose.

Then the other question is. Which is most customer centric?
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You mean lose-lose not, loose-loose. (NT)
BubbaJones_ 16th Feb 2011
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@RicD_
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That was good, I like it.
BubbaJones_ 16th Feb 2011
@Bruizer
Not picking on you. Loose for lose is a common mistake. Spell checkers will not pick up word usage only spelling. Here is another common mistake, compliment rather than complement. English is a strange language huh.

Cordially,
RicD
@Bruizer I'll pay for content if the same thing doesn't exist (legally) for free. Same thing with Apps. If someone does something just as good for free, there's no reason not to get the free one. What you're saying is us android people are frugal and will actually shop around... Thanks for the complement.
@Bruizer iOS is still outselling Android by a wide margin. Yet alone comparing the installed base. We got an update on Android yesterday. Still 300,000/day. iOS last sacramento massage quater was 370,000+/day. Add to that an extra year of market and the installed base of Android does not currently even come close to the iOS eco-system. NOTE: I do not count OMS and Tapas because while they are based on Android, they do not run in the Android eco-system. Software written san jose dentist to OMS will not necessarily run on Google's Android and visa-versa.

So the question really is. Given the same user base size, would you rather have 2% willing to pay for content and make 70% of the revenues or have .1% willing to pay for content but make 90% of the revenues?

What will the blind Android fanboies say?

BTW: Both systems are going to do very well and saying things like "eat Apple's lunch" just shows a naive view of the market.
Anyway you slice it, Google is going to eat Apple's lunch, right in front of them on this issue. As soon as there is (this year) 5-6 competing tablets all running Android and more users running them than ipads, who is a publisher going to chose? Pay 30% and have less user base or pay 10% and have 5 times the user base? Like it or not fanboys, the tsunami that is android powered tablets is coming.
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@cybr2th@... There are already way more Android devices than iPhones (but not iOS devices) yet they haven't made a dent in app downloads or sales. The reason developers and content providers/publishers are salivating over iOS is all those iTunes accounts with an easy payment method attached. Not to mention that those account holders are members of a demographic who've already proven they're ready to spend money.
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I agree. I just read an article in which
AllKnowingAllSeeing Updated - 16th Feb 2011
@matthew_maurice
Google's a bit upset at the slow useage of their app store, while Apple recorded their 10 billionth download (or something to that effect)
I think that there is a difference in end users, and no matter what the publishers do, they're not going to change the amount of people downloading, or entice them to buy more apps.
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i remember the time...
banned from zdnet 16th Feb 2011
@cybr2th@...
... when the tsunami of "plays of sure" powered ipod killers were coming and didn't kill anything but themselves after everyone realized that not only apple offers the best product but even at better prices. oops.
@banned from zdnet

yea thats what everyone who thought android was going to fail said. "Oh don't worry android won't effect apple devices it's not going to last!" The fact of the matter is it did and not with Apple being greedy @$$holes, devs are going to look for a better alternative.
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sure. whatever. yup.
AllKnowingAllSeeing 16th Feb 2011
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@KBot

You will soon realize that the Tablet market is more inline with the iPod market, not the smart phone market (despite running the same mobile OS).

And apparently Android did not affect the iPhone enough to stop it from breaking sales record on Verizon.
@dave95
"apparently Android did not affect the iPhone enough to stop it from breaking sales record on Verizon"

Citation, please...
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@NetAdmin1178
Bruizer 16th Feb 2011
Source:
http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/02/pr2011-02-04.html

?In just our first two hours, we had already sold more phones than any first day launch in our history. And, when you consider these initial orders were placed between the hours of 3 a.m. and 5 a.m., it is an incredible success story. It is gratifying to know that our customers responded so enthusiastically to this exclusive offer ? designed to reward them for their loyalty.

Previous record was 200,000. They matched that in 2 hours and kept selling at, or above that rate (many complained of slow servers in the 6:00am to 10:00am EST time period), for 15 more hours.
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You know what?
oncall 16th Feb 2011
@cybr2th@...

If Google can deliver the publishers a greater revenue stream than Apple can, then Google deserves the spoils.
@oncall I think most publishers of Google business model. They don't enhance the value of content creators, they are trying to commoditize content and push an ad based revenue model onto everyone. I have a loathing for ads, I'd rather pay for content without ads but I realise not everyone agrees and prefer free+ads. Either way, once content is commoditized the publishers end up the losers and Google ends up the winners. The publishers get to eat the scraps that fall off Googles table.
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True enough
oncall 16th Feb 2011
@global.philosopher

And the book publishers have been whining "It's the price not the cut that we worry about" so yeah I really don't worry about them at all. They can set their book/music prices at whatever they think the market will bear. Apple will take its 30% cut, the app vendor will take its cut, and the publishers will be happy with what's left because they at least got to "set the price".
@cybr2th@...

To see how false that statement is. Average revenu per App is over 1000% higher on iOS compared to Android. Even with 2X the number apps (and a much smaller user base if you listen to the Android fools).

iOS is still outselling Android by a wide margin. Yet alone comparing the installed base. We got an update on Android yesterday. Still 300,000/day. iOS last quater was 370,000+/day. Add to that an extra year of market and the installed base of Android does not currently even come close to the iOS eco-system. NOTE: I do not count OMS and Tapas because while they are based on Android, they do not run in the Android eco-system. Software written to OMS will not necessarily run on Google's Android and visa-versa.

So the question really is. Given the same user base size, would you rather have 2% willing to pay for content and make 70% of the revenues or have .1% willing to pay for content but make 90% of the revenues?

What will the blind Android fanboies say?

BTW: Both systems are going to do very well and saying things like "eat Apple's lunch" just shows a naive view of the market.
@Bruizer

Look the statement you say is irelevant. The fact of the matter is if someone wants to pay for a service they will, otherwise they won't. Apple or Android is irelevant in that respect. And looking at the big apps like Netflix hulu or Kindle, the only reason one would download these apps is to use their services, therefore you are going to pay for them. The issue here is should these marketplaces have the right to charge for content that isn't theirs. It's not like the entire netflix hulu or kindle libraries are stored on Apple's servers like, say, additional game content for an app would be; this stuff is off site and has nothing to do with apple besides the fact that the developer wanted to have its customers with iOS devices able to use its service on them.
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You are correct
oncall 16th Feb 2011
@Bruizer

Installed base is irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters here is revenue streams. Even if Android outnumbered iOS 100 to 1 if more "total money" was being made from iOS purchases then that is where the publishers will go. This whole "percentage" game is a sideshow that means nothing to the consumer.
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@ KBot
Bruizer 16th Feb 2011
Then Visa and MC don't charge a dime for using their services?

The real question is what system is more customer focused?
@Bruizer

"This stuff is off site and has nothing to do with apple besides the fact that the developer wanted to have its customers with iOS devices able to use its service on them."

Nothing to do with Apple? It's Apple's store, it has lots to do with Apple.
@cybr2th@...
If that is true, then why is everyone so unhappy? By this time next year, the Apple iOS universe will be a putrid spot on the old sofa we dumped on the side of the road in a gully.

Publishers REJOICE!
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@Synthmeister

By this time next year, the Apple iOS universe will be a putrid spot on the old sofa we dumped on the side of the road in a gully.

Like you, it was wishful thinking.
@cybr2th@... There are other factors that publishers need to consider. For example, they do not want their product to be commoditized by Google, but Google's vision is to have all content free and supported by advertising so they can get the revenue so doing a deal with Google might be short term gain for long term pain. Apple has a long history of supporting and respecting content creators which is a big factor as to why they prefer Apple over Google.
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That "earn" them the most money. Google will "promise" the higher cut of course because it will be keeping all the advertising data and resulting revenue for itself.

"Google cares a lot about helping high quality content thrive online and about the future of journalism"
Ummm, yeah right. Replace "content" with "data mining" and "journalism" with "advertising revenue" and that statement might be accurate wink
Again, assuming Google isn't forcing app devs to install an in-app pay and not forcing the in-app version to be the same or lower than the out-of-app version, this is no problem, devs can just hike the price of the in-app by the percentage google is getting and keep the out-of-app version the same price. Now if Google is doing the same thing as Apple, just at a lower percent, they are both greedy @$$holes.
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as little as possible for content is noble, selfless and altruistic.
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So, Apple taking 30% of money YOU WEREN'T GETTING BEFORE is theft or a tax. Because keeping 100% of 0 is so much more morally righteous.

This brilliant analysis by the blog author is supporting evidence for the theory that if you took every dollar from every person in the U.S., divided it up equally, you would see the money right back where it is now in about 5 years' time.
@frgough@...
Do you see Stalin everywhere or how does that work?
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Another key point that you missed:
msalzberg 16th Feb 2011
Apple won't share user data with the publishers; Google will.
@msalzberg
Incorrect, Apple allows users to opt out or opt in to give the publishers their data. Naturally, the publishers aren't real keen on that.

What this shows is...
1. that publishers aren't selling content as much as they are selling your data and selling advertising. That's where they (used to) make the money, not by selling subscriptions.
2. In spite of over a decade of widespread internet use, publishers still are clueless in figuring out what the new publishing model should be. They still think the big money will be in advertising and customer data like in the good ol' days. That's why they are so bent out of shape.
3. The internet--not Apple--has completely undercut the old world publishers business model. Apple is offering a way to monetize the new realities for the publishers, but yes, Apple will make its own rules in its walled garden/storefront/theme park.
4. Google says it will only charge 10% and give the publishers everything they want. With Android ready to slaughter Apple this coming year, everyone should be happy, right?
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'Tis True
iPad-awan 16th Feb 2011
@msalzberg
Google has proven (many times) that they have no problems sharing people's personal information as long as Google can make a quick buck from it.
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Not true in the slightest.
Bruizer 16th Feb 2011
@msalzberg

Apple is providing that control to the customer.
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when all they do is copy Apple
@iPad-awan
really? Where is Apple Search, Maps, Mail, Voice, Apps and other cloud based services, where are the investments in green energy, etc. I haven't seen those from Apple. Nice try.
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Apple has it's own search algorithms?
jasonp@... 16th Feb 2011
@iPad-awan
Who knew...
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Exactly right!
adornoe@... Updated - 16th Feb 2011
Apple will soon "innovate" and come up with iBox, and iNect, and iSearch, just like they "innovated" when they invented the smartphone and the tablet and the Intel-based computer. And shortly thereafter, Apple stock will go soaring and Apple will become the first trillion dollar corporation.

Hopefully, Jobs will still be around to see all of that come to fruition:

Paper publishes shocking pictures of skeletal Steve Jobs claiming 'cancer-stricken Apple boss may have just six weeks to live'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357743/Cancer-stricken-Apple-boss-Steve-Jobs-just-weeks-live.html#ixzz1EAghtwfO
These people need to remind how Google treat copyright. As if everything belongs to the search giant. If publishers go right into Google's arms, it means that they forget VERY fast. Plus it really does not cost a lot to Google: "Publishers will continue to host their own content".

Plus the huge failure of Google BookStore should make people think a little, for once. I tried it, and it's an utter nonsense, completely unusable. Sadly we can bet it's again a half-baked attempt by Google to really offer quality content, however, it will not be an half-baked attempt to get the maximum amount of user datas, as usual with them. It's their business model.
whereby the consumer, pays nothing, and the publisher/columnist/free-lance reporter, all reap the benefits of any advertising which they can get into their websites.

Neither Apple nor Google nor Microsoft, nor any other company, should get a cut of their advertising, except if the advertising is being served and managed by a third party, like Google advertising or Bing advertising.

Subscriptions should not exist in the on-line world, but, news and information sources can still manage to earn big money.

It would be like the TV viewing which people perceive as "free", and where the broadcasters reap the benefits from advertising.

It shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Are you Watson?
Robert Hahn 17th Feb 2011
I can't imagine why the nation has not hired you to design its business processes for every industry. Why experiment, try things, see what works, etc. when we can just ask you?
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Nope! Not Watson! But, somebody with a brain
adornoe@... Updated - 18th Feb 2011
who is very analytical and has been around and understands the many different sides of many issues, including the tech sector.

But, you're right. Why hasn't the nation hired me to design solutions or "business processes" to every industry?

On the other side, that being you, what have you contributed to the discussion other than a snide remark?

The fact is that, the solution I alluded to in my prior post, is a solution which I'm already working on, and I could actually release most of it to the internet if I wanted to, but, I still have some of the background procedures to work out, like backup and restore and recovery.

And, yes, my system would, in fact, be "free" to the consumer, but it would still have a way of being "monetized".

Anyhow, thanks for the interest.
I don't think anyone here is thinking about why Google does what it does.
Think about it:
Android is free
Search is free
You tube is free
They baseline discount everything under Apple.
They don't care if they make money on the apps or not. They want to numerically categorize the needs, likes, motivations, desires, thoughts etc of every living human on this planet. I don't they mean to use this information for harm but I would argue that this is their goal.
Here is a something thought-provoking:
If 5x the number of Android tablets and smartphones are sold in comparison to apple or anyone else and they give away their software for free and let manufacturers, developers and content producers charge whatever they wants, how do they stand to benefit? Gosh, if you really like the creep factor to climb up a notch or two then think about this: Google will eventually give you a free OS, email, DNS, Android phones, tablets, readers, televisions, phones etc and not blink an eye. You can take their stuff and give it to every human on the planet for free and they will jump for joy. Its not about how much they make on the tablets or the OS, it is about cataloging the entire scope of human consumption and creation using the web and its infrastructure. The odd thing about all this is that they are doing this multibillion expedition just for the purpose of selling ad space.
@rgor@...

And they obtain that product much the same way as the corner drug pusher. First hit is free;-)
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**** on your own chips
johnfenjackson@... 17th Feb 2011
"Bottom line: Publishers are still stuck in the middle of a giant app distribution pissing match..."
Insufficiently few people seem to realise that Apple is trying to piss hardest on customers and if there is not a backlash against Jobs' tactics the rules will be set vastly in favour of platform owners.

"The timing of this move is almost comical ..."
I don't find it at all comical that Google are one of the few who can help ensure that Apple piss on their own chips. I hope industries rally around Google on this front, share out the costs of an alternative method and put Apple's in the shade (or even out of this business altogether).

The choice of Google, Microsoft, Oracle or News Corporation for another option is of course an unenviable one ... but positively benign compared to the Apple cancer.
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@johnfenjackson@...

"Insufficiently few people seem to realise that Apple is trying to piss hardest on customers and if there is not a backlash against Jobs' tactics the rules will be set vastly in favour of platform owners."

Both Apple's and Google's implementation is very customer focused.

The difference is who the customer. With Apple, it really is the device buyer. This is why getting the customer info is opt-in. For example, when you pickup a morning newspaper at the corner vendor, do you give him your name, address, gender, phone....?

Precious few recognize that with any Google product, the end user is only the product. The customer is the advertiser/handset manufactures/carriers. So Google is more than happy to give their customer information like name, address, billing data of their product to their customers. They are happy to let carriers add crap-ware and "added value" to Android if it means more Android. They care little about the end-user experience or final product.

Google is a cancerous blight on the software industry systematically destroying all value in software and the creation of software. A perfect proof of this is the Market Place. Google has taught people not to pay for content and as a result, developers make 90% less per app on the Market Place than App Store.

So yes, as a developer, I see Google as very very evil.
It is obvious that Android is a viable credible threat to Apple. To dismiss that is bias and complete stupidity! Even Apple knows it. The competition has caused Apple to expand its carrier base, to begin developing a cheaper smaller iPhone to compete with Android, and perhaps release the iPad 3 sooner than the typical cycle. Google it! The iPad 2 will have upgrades forced upon it by the Android competition (camera, video conferencing via front facing camera, google maps 3D, sd card). I am a fan of both - I own an iPad and a high end Android phone. In many cases, Android can do what iOS cannot, and iOS has more apps. I will be purchasing an Android tablet because Android has impressed me.
Competition can be good! But, we need to be objective when it comes to technology, or in many cases the best will not win out and we lose. If we buy based on a kind of religious loyalty, progress can be hindered. Let's use our dollars to fast track ourselves to the future. Not based on a popular name or image, but on what promotes progess.

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