Google to introduce music service without major label support

Google to introduce music service without major label support

Summary: There are several expectations for product announcements at Google I/O this week, and an online music service is among them. The official launch is expected today, and Google appears to be going rogue.

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There are several expectations for product announcements at Google I/O this week, and an online music service is among them. The official launch is expected today, and Google appears to be going rogue.

That is to say that Google is doing this with or without the help of the major music labels, which could turn out to be very problematic later. As told to Peter Kafka over at All Things D, Google's director of Android product management Jamie Rosenberg said:

Unfortunately, a couple of the major labels were less focused on the innovative vision that we put forward, and more interested in in an unreasonable and unsustainable set of business terms.

Because of this, it doesn't look like Google Music will come across as a very innovative concept. The Wall Street Journal reports that the service will closely resemble the program Amazon revealed earlier this year:

Users of the service are expected to be able to listen to songs they have uploaded to the service in a so-called streaming mode but won't be able to download the files themselves. That limit appears to be a bid by Google to hinder the service from being used to spread pirated music.

Presumably, users will be able to stream that content to their computers and Android devices.  Although consumers won't be able to buy anything from Google, there are a few perks to using Google Music over Amazon. Google Music users will be able to store up to 20,000 songs for free, whereas Amazon only permits free storage space for an estimated 2,000 tracks. Additionally, Google Music supports the creation of playlists. It remains to be seen how much Google will charge for additional storage space or whatever else it decides to throw in.

At first glance, the WSJ description of Google Music also doesn't sound far off from Sony's Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity. (At least Google Music has a less atrocious long name.) However, Music Unlimited is more like a Netflix for music with a set of monthly subscription fee choices for unlimited playback of over six million songs. As long as the PlayStation Network isn't down, it seems like the better option.

Google is going to have a fairly impressive list of specs and/or prices to introduce this afternoon or Google Music is going to be a hard sell. Based on the details discovered by now, the service doesn't seem to have much going for it. Who wants to bet now whether or not Google Music will go the way of Google Wave?

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  • Google drifting into irrelevancy

    Just cheap knockoffs of things others are already offereing.

    What happened to the innovative Google of 3 years ago?
    Bill Pharaoh
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      @Bill Pharaoh What innovation was that? Google Friend Connect?
      Your Non Advocate
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        dustypotato
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      @Bill Pharaoh It's called offering what people want. Innovation? 10 times the storage for free. I was using Amazon. I won't be anymore. But in Amazon's defense, it would still be easier to purchase from them and use their site instead.
      blueskip
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      If anyone's looking for a Google Music Beta invite, I found a blog giving them out for free. I figured that the waiting list would be too long, so I tried the blog out, and got my invite about an hour later. Nice.

      I don't know if they have any remaining invites, but if you want to try your luck here's the site:

      http://freemusicbetainvites.com.nu
      dustypotato
  • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

    Haven't they learned anything from the GoogleTV launch?
    dave95.
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      @dave95. Google TV failed because of proprietary devices. Apples and potatoes my friend.
      blueskip
      • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

        @blueskip

        Sure third part was to blame. But GoogleTV also failed because content providers and networks didn't like the way Google went about offering their web content to GoogleTV users (all 5 of them :P), without their permission. So ABC, NBC, CBS, Viacom, Hulu and Fox slammed the door on GoogleTV and users!

        This cloud music service sounds like a similar situation of Google trying to play hardball with content providers but may end up on the losing end.
        dave95.
  • Do it right or not at all.

    <i>"Unfortunately, a couple of the major labels were less focused on the innovative vision that we put forward, and more interested in in an unreasonable and unsustainable set of business terms."</i>

    In Google terms this means they expected the labels to take a 0% cut and Google a 100% cut with the expectation that the labels will make it up on volume. When it comes to IP and copyright, Google inovation typically means something close to theft.

    Based on what this "service" offers, however, it is nothing more than what Apple does with iDisk right now (and for the past year or so).

    What is the point?
    Bruizer
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      @Bruizer Steve jobs... Is that you?
      nickswift498
      • Are you impressed with the offering?

        @nickswift498

        It is mostly 6 years behind the times. Only Eric Schmidt or Larry Page would be impressed with what they are offering.

        US Only.
        Google IO people only right now.

        Seriously? It is laughable at best. It strands over 40% of Android users with the service being unusable.
        Bruizer
      • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

        @nickswift498 My sentiments exactly.
        blueskip
    • It's true that Apple does it best

      @Bruizer I dont like iTunes but if you are in to music and multimedia, it is the premiere service. I dont consume a lot of music or watch a lot of shows so Amazons offerings serve me well.
      otaddy
      • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

        @otaddy If you don't like iTunes and there are quite a few people who abhor it, then this is a viable medium. I personally think iTunes is putrid at best. But many people (quite obviously) feel differently. I'm ok with that but I'm not ok with you slamming this because it ISN'T iTunes. Sorry but some folks are good with what they're offering here...Competition. (even if it's not much competition for the moment)
        blueskip
      • @blueskip

        It is poorly implemented as demonstrated at Google I/O and has nothing to do with it not being iTMS. The single biggest issue is there is no easy way to add music from multiple devices.

        Personally, I purchase music from multiple sources and on multiple devices. The Google solution does not look to handle this well. Amazon does. iTMS does.
        Bruizer
      • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

        @blueskip Are you reading a different thread or something? otaddy said that he doesn't like iTunes, said Amazon's offerings serves him well but at no point bashed Google Music let alone simply because it isn't iTunes. Try reading what you are commenting on before doing so.
        non-biased
    • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

      @Bruize "unreasonable and unsustainable set of business terms."

      That is code for "the labels forget what century they live in".
      Their model died long ago, they (labels) refuse to accept it.
      Bodazapha
      • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

        @Bodazapha While I don't disagree and do believe that the labels can be too greedy they do still own the content.
        non-biased
  • RE: Google to introduce music service without major label support

    Google Wave is a greatly powerful product... people just don't understand it.

    Completely different situation.
    Droid101
  • Music labels are stuck in the 80's

    Their short sighted approach and lack of vision will doom them to fail within the next 5 years.
    thofts