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Google Wallet: Handicapping why it will (and won't) work

By | May 26, 2011, 10:41am PDT

Google has launched its big move into mobile payments with Google Wallet. The big questions revolve around Google Wallet adoption and whether the search giant and partners can finally make mobile payments a reality.

First, Google’s announcement of its mobile payment plans in New York featured a lot of heavy hitters in the retail and payment industry. With that start, Google is hoping more retailers, merchants and banks will join its effort. Google’s vice president of commerce Stephanie Tilenius said an open ecosystem will set Google Wallet, which includes an Offers feature, apart.

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As noted previously, mobile commerce has the tech industry behind it. And Near Field Communication chips, which allow data to travel between two devices, like a smartphone and point-of-sale terminal, are ready to infiltrate smartphones. That move enables Google’s grand plans for its Wallet, which will launch this summer.

Whether Google Wallet is a success or not will depend on multiple factors. Here’s a look at some of the pros and cons involved with Google Wallet:

Pros:

  • Google has aligned itself with all of the key players in financial transactions. The most notable player in the picture to me is First Data, which serves as the backbone for many transactions behind the scenes. Mastercard, Citi and Sprint as well as retailers like Subway and Macy’s are about the best line-up you could pull together at a launch.

  • Low risk transactions seed the market. If you notice Google Wallet’s retail partners you’ll find a bevy of specialists in smaller transactions. Think Subway, Peet’s Coffee, Einstein Bagels and Jamba Juice. The consumer is more likely to try Google Wallet buying bagels and coffee than a PC at Best Buy.
  • Google is leveraging existing infrastructure. Google Wallet will work with the MasterCard PayPass network, which allows consumers to tap to pay at participating retailers. I’ve seen PayPass systems everywhere—MasterCard has more than 124,000 merchants in U.S. and 311,000 globally using the system. The problem: I’ve never seen a real live consumer use PayPass. The move to align Google Wallet with an existing tap payment system gives the search giant instant access and credibility. Partnerships with Verifone, Hypercom and others will put Google Wallet in next-gen point of sale terminals.

  • Convenience is another key feature. Google Wallet will have real appeal to Android customers that are lugging around a bunch of cards. It also doesn’t hurt that Google’s Android installed base is huge. These Android users are more likely to trust Google and adopt its various services.
  • An open ecosystem was played up. Google portrayed itself as an enabler—that’s not collecting transaction fees yet. Google promised open APIs and connective tissue to enable mobile payments. That line will appeal to a bevy of financial players. After all, Google’s monetization will come from Google Offers, its Groupon killer, as well as the advertising possibilities with users.

Add it up and Google Wallet could have some real momentum. The effort is as credible—if not more so—than anything else likely to come down the pike.

Now for those worry spots:

Cons:

  • Google Wallet needs more phones in the field. Google execs were showing off the Nexus S, but the reality is that NFC chips need to be in all phones to acquire a critical mass. These phones are coming, but they will take months to reach a wide swath of consumers.
  • The inclination to wait for other NFC moves. A lot of Apple users are likely to wait to see what Steve Jobs & Co. cooks up for the iPhone. However, I have a tough time envisioning Apple pulling together the ecosystem that Google just did out of the gate.
  • Security. Google executives also talked up security. The talked about tamper proof chips found in passports as well as PINs and shutoff mechanisms so you can’t skim Google Wallet’s data. Overall, Google Wallet is safer than handing a waiter your credit card, but selling consumers on this payment system could be tricky. Google said that consumers could store cards, drivers licenses, IDs and other items in Google Wallet. That’s a lot of undiversified trust in Google.

  • Google needs more carrier support. Sprint is a nice launch customer, but the company really needs Verizon and AT&T in the fold too. To date, Google’s first release of Google Wallet will come on the Nexus S 4G. The Nexus S is Sprint’s bestselling phone, but the numbers are relatively small.
  • Habits. Tilenius acknowledged that “this vision will take a while to come to fruition.” A field test starts today, and Google Wallet will officially launch this summer in San Francisco and New York City first, followed by a roll-out nationwide. That rollout is the least of Google’s worries. Google will get early adopters on board, but the masses may be reticent. New payment methods are adopted slowly in the U.S. Folks transfer money via text messages in Turkey. No such luck here.

Bottom line: On the adoption front, Google’s success or failure with Google Wallet looks like a jump ball. One thing is certain: If mobile payments finally take hold and go mainstream Google will be a player in the industry.

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facebook@... 26th May
A lot of the talk about NFC and smart phone security seems to focus on the visual display. You can lock the phone, you need to enter a pin #, the entire card is not visually displayed.

What people forget about NFC is the NFC. How do you protect your phone from broadcasting your credit card information in a crowded mall?
@facebook@... Google said when the screen is dark the NFC is off. it only comes on when you do your pin and give it permission
@Larry Dignan
facebook@... still makes a great point. A malware attack to activate the NFC could broadcast the account information to listeners. I am not overly excited about this technology, and I know that a lot of companies are bringing this out. Color me concerned.
@Larry Dignan OK, so that means that the hacker must put his reader within close proximity to the cash register. An inconspicuously looking reader located near a high traffic cash register can collect a lot of credit cards in a day.
@facebook@...
But this can happen today.
I suspect we will likely see a small number and it will be independent of the technology actually deployed.
Call it growing pains.

Overall though, it looks to be more secure than a lot of the information today.

Fyi - try this for a concern:
Put your phone on video record - and act like you are browsing near a register. Provided your resolution is good enough - you can get card, name and if they flip it, the security code on the back. It is amazing how careless folks are...... shocked
@Larry Dignan says "But this can happen today. "

The difference is that there is a legal liability of $50.00 if my charge card or it's numbers are stolen. Once the bad guys get thsi, who pays the damages?
@rhonin

True enough statements. If you can position two cameras in such a way that it can consistently read both the card # and the 3 digit code at the back of the card you can grab credit card numbers.

However, NFC is not impaired by line of site constraints and a single device can read both the card # and the 3 digit code.

NFC is more akin to big box stores like Best Buy that was using unprotected wireless networks to transmit credit card data back and forth from front end terminals and back end systems.

It is easy enough to dismiss the possibility. However, all too often with IT, every one is wise after the event.
@facebook@...
True.
I mentioned the camera incident after I have seen more than a few standing in a check out line handle their card in a way that i can easily read both sides during their checkout process. Add my camera on my phone and poof!

It's amazing. shocked
@facebook@

NFC only works for a distance of 4cm or less. It won't be easy to place a reader next to cash register to steal credit card information. Also, I assume the software will require user's explicit approval before sending the details.

Pretty secure to me, compared to the plastic card today.
@Larry Dignan
Hopefully they wont be broadcasting it unencrypted and in plain text format. With Google's latest security blunders I would never trust it.
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Let me just say this, it's going to happen. It is in fact, happening. Will there be growing pains, you betcha! Will some tech guy / hacker / your next door neighbor figure out holes in the system, of course. But, in the end will we as consumers feel waving a device is simpler than handing a piece of plastic is easier and subsequently 'better'? Yup. I've been around for the growth of credit cards (yes, there was a time when they were very rare!) and people thought that was nuts. "All somebody has to do is steal my credit card..." Google? Apple? 'the next guy'?, etc... doesn't really matter in the long run, it'll be a personal choice just like your bank is a personal choice now. I'm not saying jump on board, i'm saying acknowledge it, and plan accordingly. Truth be told, I probably will wait for the Apple solution, but that's just because I graduated in 1984...
@facebook@... The hacker might be a bit further away. Maybe 9-12 feet. The point is, how do you make sure the signal gets turned off quickly and is this really more convenient than just swiping a credit card to be worth any risk?
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i'm using the Starbucks IPhone app to pay for my cappuccino, and find it very effective. what is the usage rate for this tool? I think it is a great idea for small purchases as u said, such as newspapers, coffee, etc. dont see it for anything large.
@jchait50 I agree; I use it all the time and it works great. The only problem I have with it is that your Starbucks account doesn't actually tell you what you bought. I don't really understand why they can't do that since they're just ringing up items that are in the POS systems. Other than that, it's super easy to use and I could definitely get used to paying like that for other things.

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No Thanks!
Gr8Music 26th May
I'll let Google fiddle-f*ck around and make all the mistakes while I wait for Apple iCurrency. It won't be long before the IMF will be transferring funds via iTunes!
@Gr8Music
Like companies are really going to get on board with Apple taking 30% of their NFC purchases. Please.

Google is doing it first, and doing it right.
@Droid101 Google doesn't do many things right, except search and even now, most searches give you the same site in the top 10 list, just different pages. e.g. Just look at Buzz, indexing people's voicemail, video, most of there things are average at best, plus most of there interfaces such from a design standpoint.
@davefm@...
What about chrome and android ??
@Gr8Music
Whoa dude!
I would never let iTunes do any of that.

@Droid101 - true.

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hate to lose it.

Maybe that's why I always come out ahead?
@Will Pharaoh
Be like losing your wallet.
Only benefit - you can usually set your phone to be remotely wiped or wiped after X number of pin code failure...

grin
@Will Pharaoh I was thinkikng the same thing. It's kind of nice, but I have it in my hands - and I know where it is (my wallet). Thus I'm responsible
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Another con
fjpoblam 26th May
Visa isn't yet a "partner". Visa will likely not become a partner soon. Our only credit card is Visa: it's the card our bank offers. We're old-fashioned, I reckon: no need for more than one card. So, we're "locked out" of Google Wallet.
@fjpoblam Because Visa has already been doing NFC for quite some time. Visa is not a partner, they are a competitor.
@fjpoblam

Don't count the chickens..... or eggs.....

Google is starting with MC.
Don't be surprised if Visa and other cards come into the plan at some future point.

wink
Security, Security, Security!

Where is my protection? If a charge card is stolen, I have a legal liability limit of $50.00. What keeps the bad guys from taking all of my money from this process?

And that is just the bad guys. What about mistakes? I won't even let Google have my charge card number because I fear I will accidentally pick somethign from the droid marketplace and end up spending a fortune.
@rwgreene

Different aspects.

Liability limits will be set.
For the market place I have a Visa gift card setup - works well grin
One got to wonder if Google US centric approached will fail here.

Google TV could have been a complete success if it was launch in a more open a competitive market, such as the UK or even South Korea.
One got to wonder where it really a smart move by Google to launch this in the US which is years behind other countries when it comes to its banking systems, for instant I think they were the last if not one of the last to adopt chip and pin.

Google may not achieve success in such a conservative market, and will give up instead of trying it in a more open market more accepting of change.
@Knowles2
If they don't get their foot in here, Apple is liable to step on it.
shocked
@Knowles2
For the UK they would probably have to conform to the huge raft of UK pro-consumer banking regulations, which have been toughened up in recent years due to banking scandals. Somehow I doubt the GOOG want to be under that kind of regime. The US banking system is still very much "analogue" (mailing cheques? magnetic strips? checking your bank statement for errors!) compared to the chip-savvy e-systems in most of Europe.
it's obvious this new google technology hinges on rapid consumer adoption as well as retailer adoption. another big player in mobile payments, square, released a big announcement this week too. here's how they compare:

http://feefighters.com/blog/deciphering-google-and-squares-announcements/
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No way, Google!
Userama 26th May
The only reason Google is doing this is to gather more data on what you buy and where you buy it, so that they can zero in with the targeted ads. I refuse to provide them with this information!
@Userama
Where you buy already does.
And they sell it willy nilly.
Adding Google is no issue - they likely already have most of this info in one form or another....

wink
While the idea is attractive how about this one. I'm in the Florida Keys doing some lobstering and my "credit card" falls out of my pocket and lands in a bilge full of salt water. From personal experience I can tell you the plastic card wins every time happy And without my credit card phone how do I get a new one to finish my vacation?
I will wait until technology is as fullproof as possible
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One problem is going to be adoption by businesses, especially the smaller ones. I have a debit card I can wave at a cash terminal, and pay amounts for under ten pounds. Well, I could, except having had that facility on my card for over a year now, I have yet to come across ONE business that has such a terminal!
While these security concerns are valid - all you have to do is read about the plague of clip-on card readers at ATM machines - you're forgetting who is offering this. NOTHING is free. Google will make billions with this micro-information. Who needs tracking cookies when you can get people to willingly give them where they shop, what they buy, when they buy it, how much they pay for it. Then they can aggregate it and add it to Google maps for those willing to pay for the service. The insurance companies will be able to adjust their rates for relative risk based on your purchasing (foods you buy, what size clothes you wear, what you do for entertainment). This is just another, more direct way of doing what they already attempt to do. Sorry - not for this kid. Not until we get some real privacy protection laws (yeah right!)
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@flukejh06 Google doesn't sell your data. But sure they will try to show you relevant info about what you can buy, what the deals are that can interest you locally. That's in their interest cause they will make a comission every time an add is clicked and Google will make even more comission if you actually purchase something. Google has no interest in "seeling out" on all your private data. With your permission, they can provide you with suggestions for what you could do, what you could buy. But if you don't like Google's suggestions, you're only one click away from finding another company's suggestion system.
Google now wants to control your money. Isn't it enough that they don't give a stuff about one's data privacy and treat everyone who demands it as criminals with something to hide ?

I have never seen a more dangerous, intrusive and arrogant company as Google. They make Big Brother look like a walk in the park.
we are working on a similiat project here in China. As the risk for fraud and exploit here is quite high, we decided to switch on the NFC Chip manually. It means, the software is not accessible through the OS, it needs a hard switch for the Chip placed on the telephone. then it displays with priority on the screen and requires input...like pin numbers .etc......You could also implement this in a little box, this does not need a phone. This system can be used on any phone OS (apple,windows,android,symbian) it only needs an interface for display. the phone itself has NO access at all to any data.
May be this info takes a way your security doubts about exploits end hackers.
greetings from China
RR
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Definitely not for me
ron.cleaver@... 27th May
I don't have a smart phone and never will. So that leaves me out. I've never used a debit card and never will. You have to be a moron not to take advantage of the credit card float.

Paypal is the only one I've used because it provides a measure of safety when dealing with people and businesses through ebay. It's worked for me in the past with a shady seller.
They mentioned a "sticker" for phones without NFC in the announcement. @LarryDignan - anything about that and the security implications?
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I think people will eventually use NFC for payments, when they need to pay at a register. But it's all kind of old hat. you still have wait in line with others. You save what, seconds maybe as compared to paying with a card? The real benefits are less cards, but don't think you can drop your wallet yet. You still have a drivers licence, social security card, insurance card, etc. you need to drag around.

I just wrote up my own commentary on my own blog at http://goo.gl/uDas8
Payment credentials sent through NFC is never a secure approach, the original goal of contactless was to be fast, any security measure was an after-thought. There are much more secure, and as easy to use technologies exist for applications at POS. Google needs to compete in innovations, or Google juice will dry up.
Don't need it, don't want it.

I'm happy with the convenience *and* protection I get from my MC & VISA cards. These two are more than enough!
If this works like RFIDS, then the chip doesn't control the power of the signal (the "broadcast"). It is actually the power and sensitivity of the reader which activates the broadcast. RFIDS can be read from 9 feet (so far) and I really don't want to see someone in Starbucks sipping coffee with a huge electrical reader sitting next to them. As long as there is a PERMANENT way to disable this feature on my phone, I'm OK with it but I suspect someone will find a way to hack that as well. And yes, I did drill a hole in my Amex Blue card before they finally sent me one without an RFID and I managed to get one of the last U.S. passports without an RFID as well although there are plenty of cases out there that kill any broadcast. I'm assuming there will be cell phone jackets that do the same for this technology. Why people just can't swipe a card along a 4-inch route amazes me. Tapping is not that all more convenient.
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NO WAY!
LavarockDavidson Updated - 30th May
This is simply put "suckerware"!

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