Google's quarter falls short of expectations; Social networking not monetizing well
Summary: Google on Thursday reported fourth quarter net income of $1.21 billion, or $3.
Google on Thursday reported fourth quarter net income of $1.21 billion, or $3.79 a share, on revenue of $4.83 billion, up 51 percent from a year ago. Excluding charges Google reported earnings of $4.43 a share. All of those figures missed Wall Street estimates.
According to Thomson Financial, Google was expected to report a fourth quarter profit of $4.44 a share on revenue of $3.45 billion. That revenue estimate excludes traffic acquisition costs. Excluding TAC Google had revenue of $3.39 billion, which was also shy of estimates.
Google shares were last trading at $512 in after hours trading. On a conference call with analysts CEO Eric Schmidt said he was pleased with the quarter and optimistic about 2008. Overall, Google said it wasn't seeing any major economic problems. Officials argued that a downturn would push customers to advertising techniques with good ROI (think text ads).
There were a few product nuggets on the conference call.
- CFO George Reyes said social networking advertising is not monetizing as expected. When questioned further Sergey Brin, president of technology, said: "We don't talk about individual partners or anything like that." Brin noted some things were tried that didn't pan out. While Brin won't talk about partners it's fairly obvious that MySpace is an issue. Google is obligated to pay at least $900 million in minimum revenue guarantees to MySpace through 2010. Later, the question was revisited again. He noted that Google also has Orkut and other social networking partners. "We have an incredible amount of this inventory," said Brin. "I don't think we have the killer best way to monetize social networks yet. We have had a lot of experiments (and some disappointments)."
- Google is tracking iPhone usage closely. The company said that usage of Google services on iPhone have doubled a month after the search giant launched optimized apps for the Apple's phone.
- Google can't answer any questions about the 700 Mhz wireless auction by the FCC. Google couldn't talk about WiMax either.
- Brin said new infrastructure was launched for Gmail. "This new infrastructure has made development easier and improved performance," said Brin.
- Brin added that YouTube has had strong growth and touted the political debate partnership with CNN.
- Google also signed a Google Apps deal with Genentech and Brin said the company is making headway with enterprise customers. Most of growth in licensing was due to the acquisition of Postini.
Among the notable figures (revenue figures include TAC) from Google's earnings report:
- Google ended the fourth quarter with 16,805 employees, up from 15,916 at the end of the third quarter. Reyes said the new hires in the quarter were mostly engineers and sales and marketing.
- Operating income for the fourth quarter was $1.44 billion.
- Google sites revenue was $3.12 billion in the fourth quarter, or 65 percent of total revenue. Google's partner sites through AdSense generated revenue of $1.64 billion.
- International revenue was $2.32 billion, or 48 percent of revenue during the fourth quarter. In the same quarter a year ago Google international revenue was 44 percent of total revenue. The weak dollar padded Google's international revenue. Schmidt talked up international opportunities. He noted that Google has a global team to execute a "global-local" strategy.
- TAC is increasing. TAC was 30 percent of revenue in the fourth quarter, up from 29 percent in the third quarter.
- Expenses were held in check (for Google). Google said "other cost of revenues," or data center expenses, credit card charges and content acquisition costs came in at $516 million, or 11 percent of revenue in the fourth quarter. That's up from 10 percent of revenue in the third quarter. Operating expense in the fourth quarter remained at 30 percent of revenue, on par with the third quarter.
- Google had $14.2 billion in cash and equivalents at the end of 2007.
- For 2007, Google reported revenue of $16.6 billion and net income of $4.2 billion, or $13.29 a share. In 2006, Google reported revenue of $10.6 billion with net income of $3.07 billion, or $9.94 a share.
- R&D spending for 2007 was $2.2 billion, up from $1.3 billion in 2006.
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it's because of the M$ illegal behavior
The courts should look into this.
just like Google being default search provider in Firefox
I avoid Google and Microsoft web resources, and prefer Yahoo's AllTheWeb.
Oh come on
don't want their so-called 'services' rammed down my throat. Half baked IT
information, crappy and slow search with inaccurate result - no thank you. You can
take you AllTheWeb and cram it.
(sigh) just another Google (or other) fascist
it is default
An option is OPTIONAL, turn it off or don't install it and you're good.
Options are something not provided in -MOST- MS apps.
No, I'm not a Google fan boy, But I use google search occasionally.
Ken.
I agree
Ever seen 1994?
You think Microsoft is scary? Note that Google has the monopoly on online search and advertizing. Now imagine Google, a commercial business that now has to answer to shareholders, owning all your data ... and knowing more about you than you would ever feel comfortable with.
Be scared.
You know I was kidding, right?
I actually agree with you in a certain sense. MS doesn't scare me so much because they are being watched. It's the companies that aren't being watched that scare me more. The Worldcom debacle was far worse than anything MS ever did (I know I am going to get flamed for saying that, but it's the truth), yet who would have suspected any wrongdoing before that story broke out?
I concur
Really?
That we have ended up with MS owning the desktop OS world is a direct result of them creating a product that was simply better than the other available OS' during the early stages of PC growth. If you want to supplant the incumbant OS, then build a better one. One that my Mum can use without having to learn how to use archaic 40-year-old comment line tools and how to rebuild her kernel when she needs to update her graphics driver.
Don't confuse competition with monopoly. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with strong competition. Without competition, there is little reason to advance and stagnation is likely. Just look at IE and the browser market before Firefox took hold.
Don't expect MS to sit back on it's laurels when it comes to OS work though. They're fighting on several fronts - Linux, Apple, etc., as well as all the hackers out there trying to drill holes in their flagship platforms. Note that behind the scenes, while most of the world has been bitching about MS' inability to ship Vista on time etc., MS has been busily beavering away, scanning and analyzing its source of every product, patching known holes and planning re-implementations of portions of products that are inherently weak. The results are now just starting to appear. Watch out in 2-3 years time when the wave of work results in a crecendo of products that are massively improved over the current range of offerings.
How will Linux step up to this challenge?
Stuff like this makes me wonder
The US economy is run on debt
persuite of 'teh growth' - all conservative economic principles have been thrown
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house rising, leveraging the equity of their house to take on more debt, the debt to
acquire more things which stimulate the economy - there is eventually a point
where this sort of madness will have to stop.
Oh, and as for the $145billion stimulus - reminder, Keynes died and he wants his
fiscal stimulating back. People who still use it as a way to correct economic
ailments don't have the slight clue as to how the economy operates.
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I never heard such BS
well thats is just not true every company makes money or it would fold.. What is happening is they estimate how much money they will make and then if they exceed that its called profit even though they have already made a significant profit, and if they fall short they say they have a loss because they didn't reach their goal
even though they did make money it was not as much as expected so it is classified as a loss
there is no company that can run or operate in debt for any length of time. The suppliers to that company and the workers would expect to get paid or stop supplying or working for them
so I say tell the real truth on how much google made and that there was no loss just an over expectation of income.
Why doesn't your headline say...
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Henri
Precisely
Actual vs. expectations
As for all you GOOGLE vs. MICROSOFT folks... Get a grip. Businesses will always do whatever it takes to grow bigger and hopefully better (Not always). In any industry you are going to have a major player(s) that sets the rules. Both Google and Microsoft are going to offer competitive offerings as well as large minor players like Yahoo!. Consolidation generally leads to complacency. Which then leaves openings for new innovators. They either grow big or get bought. So goes the circle of life for businesses.
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Are you sure you aren't poaching off Microsoft?
model, there.