Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

Summary: If you just purchased a system powered by Intel's Core i5 or i7 chipset, get ready for a return or repair. Intel has a chipset issue that affects the launch of Sandy Bridge.

Intel said Monday that it discovered a design flaw in a chipset circuit and has "implemented a silicon fix." The chip giant also said it will work with PC makers to handle returns and repairs.

Specifically, Intel found a design problem in a support chip, the Intel 6 Series, which is code-named Cougar Point. In a nutshell, chipsets with Serial-ATA ports could degrade over time and hurt the performance of hard drives and DVD drives.

This potentially faulty chipset was used in Intel's latest Core processors, or Sandy Bridge.

In a statement, Intel said:

Intel has stopped shipment of the affected support chip from its factories. Intel has corrected the design issue, and has begun manufacturing a new version of the support chip which will resolve the issue. The Sandy Bridge microprocessor is unaffected and no other products are affected by this issue.

The company said it will deliver an updated version of the chipset in late February with full volume in April. Intel added that it will work with PC makers to handle returns of the chipset and support motherboard replacements.

At least Intel caught the issue early. The faulty support chip has only been shipping since Jan. 9. Customers impacted will be those that bought second-generation Core i5 and Core i7 systems.

This recall will also lead to a financial hit relative to previous expectations. For the first quarter, Intel said the chipset problem will cut revenue by $300 million as it "discontinues production of the current version of the chipset and begins manufacturing the new version." The total cost to repair and replace systems will be about $700 million.

Intel added that the issue, which technically occurred in the fourth quarter, will cut previously reported margins to 63.5 percent, down from a reported 67.5 percent. Intel will also take a first quarter charge that will cut margins by 2 percent. Revenue projections for 2011 aren't changed.

Since Intel was updating its outlook, the company said it also closed the purchase of Infineon, which will be known as the Intel Mobile Communications Group. The McAfee deal will close by the end of the first quarter.

Here's Intel's outlook, which excludes McAfee at this point:

  • For the first quarter, Intel expects revenue to be $11.7 billion, give or take $400 million. The previous outlook was $11.5 billion, give or take $400 million. Gross margins will be about 61 percent, down from the previous outlook of 64 percent.
  • The company is projecting revenue growth in the "mid-to high teens" compared to its previous estimate of 10 percent. For 2011, gross margins will be 63 percent compared to the previous outlook of 65 percent.
  • For 2011, R&D spending will be $8.2 billion, up from a previous outlook of $7.3 billion.

Bottom line: Intel takes a hit on the chipset design flaw, but things could have been much worse.

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Topics: Hardware, Intel, Processors

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  • Oh well...

    back to the ol' drawing board.
    james347
    • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

      I am Southbridge of Borg. Transfer is futile. You will be decelerated.
      Robert Hahn
  • I view it the other way

    @Ron Burgundy, I've never had an AMD chip that worked great. Out of the 4 here at work (in various systems) they are the most troublesome.

    I gave them a chance, and maybe its the machines they're in, (not high end, but by no means low end at all) but I'm getting the feeling that I'll be avoiding AMD chips like the plague.

    Though none of my systems are running these batches of chips, so not an issue for us.
    John Zern
    • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

      @John Zern It's not always easy to know if it's the chipset or the motherboard design/chips. I've had many AMD chips/sets over the years and have always given me the most bang for the buck (not necessarily the most bang), but the motherboards have definitely made a difference.
      dabble53
    • I've Generally Had Only Motherboard Issues

      @John Zern
      As dabble53 alluded to, I've generally had only motherboard issues with AMD chips. I have a machine at work that I've used as a test server, and it's always been flaky. It recently quit booting at all, and I found a blown capacitor on the motherboard. Someone who used to work at the company I'm with built the machine with cheaply constructed parts, and I've been reaping the results. At home I've never had problems with an AMD CPU machine, but at home, I've selected the motherboards ("economical" rather than "cheap"; in other words I paid attention to quality as well as price).

      Of course, I've generally had problems only with motherboards with Intel chips as well, so this is no knock against them. Any company can end up having to issue a recall.

      I tend to use AMD processors more in my own computers because they tend to have a better price/performance ratio even if they don't always have the very best performance.
      CFWhitman
    • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

      @John Zern that's funny, I've always had better luck with AMD chipsets. Not to mention, the memory controller is on the chip so that is one less chipset on the mobo to worry about. Plus, with AMDs backwards and fowards compatability for sockets it is as easy as popping out an old chip and a new one in when you want to upgrade. Not the case with Intel.<br><br>Of course, I guess if you like sitting around looking at benchmarks all day, Intel is the way to go. But if you want to get the most bang for your buck as well as reliability AMD is a great choice. As far as benchmarks go, if I wanted to sit around and look at big numbers all day I would just mash keys on a calculator....
      keitha73-23430377852780425463534611145075
    • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

      @John Zern
      You know as well as I that Intel just paid AMD a billion dollars to settle the lawsuit against them for their unfair practices. It's not too far-fetched to theorize that Intel was probably also rewarding OEMs for coupling AMD CPUs with really cheap components, i.e., motherboards. In my somewhat limited experience, all of the boxes from major OEMs I've ever seen with AMD CPUs have had what I would consider extremely low quality motherboards and/or chipsets.

      Be specific. What brands are we talking about? Are you talking about commodity grade desktops, or truly high-end machines, such as servers using Opteron CPUs? Any of these machines have a Phenom or Phenom II CPU?
      djchandler
    • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

      @John Zern I agree about AMD. I have tried AMD twice once in a laptop and once in a desktop. Both times had issues with chipsets. Intel by far provides the best and fastests options.
      Everybody is entitled to a defect now and again.
      jscott418-22447200638980614791982928182376
    • Isn't that funny?

      @John Zern, I've had exactly 1 Intel chip & it was DOA, been with AMD ever since. Never met an AMD I didn't like, never met an Intel that I did like...especially for the premium pricetag...
      rmazzeo
    • Now that's odd. I give an honest opinion, and I get flagged

      @John Zern
      I guess I'm only allowed to say <font color="red">I <b>love</b> AMD chips! Intel makes nothing but crap!</font>

      Now, I did state [i]maybe its the machines they're in, (not high end, but by no means low end at all)[/i], which is telling people that I'm not claiming that it is 100%, no doubt about it, AMD's fault all the way.

      But saying what I'm actually seeing gets the Anti-Intel crowd going. Odd that I have used them (we run small systems for things using AMD powered Zinos) but the demand on them isn't high, so not much of a benchmark

      For cost wise reasons, I've ordered 4 different laptops (various models) with AMD processors, and they're the ones that the users are coming back with complaints on issues and crashes, not the Intel i3 based ones, so I'm having a hard time putting my trust in AMD at this point, as Intel has done fine for us system wise, for years.

      But then that's my opinion.
      John Zern
    • @John Zern likes big monopolies

      <i>I guess I'm only allowed to say I love AMD chips! Intel makes nothing but crap!</i><br><br>No, John Zern.<br> You're supposed to say <b>I love big monopolies like Intel and Micro$oft! Anything smaller than that is crap!</b><br><br>Get with the program, dude.
      search &amp; destroy
    • Here's another post to flag!

      Sorry people, if you don't want to hear others opinions, then go someplace else.

      Yeah, search & destroy, AMD is not some big billion dollar company, so we should just buy, buy, buy, as we know they never had any problems with thier chips. ;)
      John Zern
    • More flagging coming your way

      @John Zern no need to apologize. I find you quite entertaining.

      lol...

      And yes, buy buy buy Intel since we know they also never have any problems with their chips.

      Did you know that Sandy Bridge is mucho perfect since predatory monopolies are the 'best' thing around? Hmm? ;)
      search &amp; destroy
  • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

    @Ron Burgundy
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  • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

    @Ron Burgundy <br>The fact of the matter is this: unless you are looking at some minor performance upgrades, AMD is the way to go based on price. Their speeds aren't as fast as Intel, but the margin is small based on what most computer users are using the computer for. If you have a super computer with 100 intel i7 hex cores vs 100 AMD Phoenom 2 X6 cores, well then you're going to see a significant difference, but for at average user, (even a serious gamer) AMD is the way to go. That being said, Intel still makes great chips, especially now. A while ago Intel was the second place player if you wanted high performance, but now the playing field is the same. It's all about preference. I am an AMD guy myself.
    KBot
    • Agreed on price performance but...

      @KBot It isn't that minor of a performance increase. The performance difference can be significant. And there are other differences too where Intel has had a significant advantage - mobile processors for example had a much greater performance/watt
      DevGuy_z
  • Why?

    @Ron Burgundy At least 70% of the market goes with Intel.
    Normally there is no reason to avoid them. You can choose AMD if you prefer to do so, but there is no reason to avoid Intel. It is one thing to say you strongly prefer AMD (for whatever reason) but to say you avoid Intel "like the plague" makes it sound like you are a troll.
    DevGuy_z
  • RE: Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout

    @Ron Burgundy

    Yes, because I prefer an overheating chipset destroying my battery life and melting the components on my mobile device's motherboard. Oh yea, not once, not twice, but three times on three different laptops. I have a little hope for Fusion, but in the mobile space AMD generally sucks ass.
    Playdrv4me
    • That's because you like to buy cheap junk laptops

      @Playdrv4me Your problem is not related to AMD (or Intel). Your problem is that you keep buying cheap crap and expect it to be the same as better quality laptops.

      Sorry, but the only AMD laptops that I even heard of overheating are cheap, low quality knockoffs that are overclocked (by either the manufacturer or the the user) beyond the safety limits.
      wackoae