Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

Summary: In yet another round of legal battles between Kodak and Apple, Kodak has found favor again with the U.S. International Trade Commission.

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In yet another round of legal battles between Kodak and Apple, Kodak has found favor again with the U.S. International Trade Commission.

In this particular suit against both Apple and Research in Motion, which was first filed in January 2010, Kodak was fighting over patents related to previewing images on digital cameras integrated into mobile phones.

The two major findings the ITC presented in favor of Kodak were:

  • All of Apple and RIM's accused phones infringed upon the patent terms “at least three different colors"
  • RIM’s accused phones and certain Apple phones infringe upon the terms "intiating capture"

There are a few other patents as well, which make all of this seem a tad silly. But there you have it.

Kodak initially lost out to Apple and RIM earlier this year, but the road turned for Kodak in late March when it won the following round in this patent dispute.

Nevertheless, Kodak is still embroiled in another war with Apple over some more digital camera technology patents. Apple has claimed that those technologies were being used illegally in Kodak’s Z-series, M-series, C-series, and Slice cameras. Kodak won the most recent round in May, but an official decision in that case is expected to be handed out on September 19.

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  • When you can't innovate, litigate!!

    Kodak is such a cheap, disgusting company. Why don't you try to compete instead of suing everyone?? All you are doing is proving that you can't compete, can't innovate, and that you deserve to be bankrupted. You don't see Apple suing anyone because Apple is an innovative, competitive company! YEAH!!!
    woulddie4apple
    • RE: Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

      @woulddie4apple Apple is suing HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and more. I guess Apple can't innovate.
      tatiGmail
      • I'm sure that isn't true

        @tatiGmail
        I can't believe that Apple would sue anyone unless they really REALLY deserved it. That is totally unlike this Kodak lawsuit and the recent Samsung lawsuit against poor little Apple where Apple totally didn't deserve to be sued. AAARGGHHH!!! I hate the patent system that favors the big company over the small companies like Apple that innovate, innovate, innovate and never steal, steal, steal unlike Kodak and Samsung!!
        woulddie4apple
      • RE: Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

        @woulddie4apple Since when was Apple a small company? Its cash pile is larger than Microsoft's! You should also read the articles about Apple obtaining an injunction (later reversed) against the Galaxy Tab, by using basic design principles for which a patent should never have been granted.
        skippe93
    • because legally patents are property

      @woulddie4apple And our current legal system allows you to sue for damages when your property is used without your consent.

      It has nothing to do with lack of innovation, it is simply claiming what is yours.

      And yes I do think it is a silly system, but that's a problem that only our government can fix, and they show no intention of doing so.
      otaddy
    • Have to give NZ credit on this one.

      Hi new schtick is pulling in more suckers than his last one.
      fr_gough
      • First off, I'm not NonZealot, if you had any decency, you'd stop lying

        @fr_gough <br>Second, Nothing that I write hasn't been said a million times by the likes of you. Congrats, you've just admitted you and I have the same schtick!
        woulddie4apple
  • Apple Small?

    Apple is no where near "Smal" as you imply "woulddie4apple." They have over 40,000 employees. You sound like a troll.
    unredeemed
    • I didn't mean small in the literal sense

      @unredeemed
      I meant small in the cute and cuddly sense. YEAH!!!
      woulddie4apple
      • RE: Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

        @woulddie4apple don't you think you are jacking off too much ? I can imagine your pain since you are a fanboy, but shouting won't make any difference....so relax and enjoy the long weekend/Independence Day ! Be Independent and don't be locked by Apple..:-)
        animageofmine1
    • He/she is trolling; do not pay attention ('do not feed the troll')

      @unredeemed
      DDERSSS
      • Now I'm REALLY curious!!

        @DeRSSS <br>I would truly love to hear you justify your belief that I'm a troll and you aren't!! Remember, I'm not saying anything that you and hundreds of other Apple fans just like you and me say every day here on ZDNet on every single post whether it has anything to do with Apple or not!! YEAH!!!!
        woulddie4apple
  • Did you read anything about the case other than Kodak's press release?

    The ITC rejected some of Kodak's claims, and sent the rest back to the judge to reconsider with some amended language. Despite the press release you linked to, the ITC made no findings.
    msalzberg
    • So Kodak lied in their press release?

      @msalzberg
      Specifically, Kodak lied when they said "The Commission agreed with Kodak that all of Apple and RIM's accused phones infringe this term."

      Kodak also lied when they said " The Commission agreed with Kodak that RIM?s accused phones and certain Apple phones infringe this term. "

      Kodak also lied when they said "The Commission affirmed other determinations favorable to Kodak, including the enforceability of the patent, and the existence of domestic industry."

      Wow. Those are some serious accusations you are levying against Kodak. I sure hope you are right about that!
      woulddie4apple
      • RE: Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

        @NonZealot <br><br>"We find that the Apple iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 do not literally infringe the asserted claim in their non-flash-photography modes of operation."<br><br>"The Commission has modified the ALJs construction of the claim terms motion processor and still processor, and remands the question of infringement of these limitations to the ALJ."
        msalzberg
  • I think it is other way round. Kodak losses the ITC ruling

    Wow. What a petatic journalism.
    Ben_rockwood
  • RE: Kodak wins again over Apple, RIM in ITC patent ruling

    Funny, Kodak is the inovator here. This has been going on for a couple of hundred years. Why inovate when you can just steal the idea. If the inventor is a person or small enough company that they can't spend years and untold thousands of dollars defending their patent, the big companies have nothing to worry about.

    Perhaps you would like Kodak to continue patenting new ideas so Apple and other big companies don't have to have their own research department. They can just continue to steal them with impunity.
    kitkimes41@...
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