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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Mac sales surge but did they really blow away PC sales?

By | August 23, 2010, 1:09pm PDT

Summary: According to IDC, Mac sales surged in the second quarter but what else is behind the story of some color percentage charts?

The colorful charts are pretty impressive and the percentages are pretty big. But reports about surging Mac sales in the enterprise are a bit misleading.

That’s not to take away anything from Needham analyst Charlie Wolf, who analyzed IDC’s second quarter report on PC shipments, or Fortune’s Phillip Elmer-Dewitt, who shared the details of Wolf’s report today on his blog. But any comparison of growth rates for two competing sides - in this case Mac vs. PC - must consider the starting point for both.

The PC has a huge market share lead over the Mac and, as such, even a small percentage gain in shipments can be significant. At the same time, the Mac market is much smaller so, a brisk number of sales in a particular quarter could lead to some impressive growth - as its measured in percentages, that is. Consider the bullet points that Fortune used from the Needham and IDC reports.

  • At 35%, Mac shipment growth in June easily exceeded the market’s growth rate of 20.9%.
  • Mac shipments grew 31.4% in the home market, topping the market’s growth rate of 25.2%.
  • At 49.8%, the Mac’s growth in business was three times higher than the market’s 15.7%.
  • Mac shipments in government grew 200%, sixteen times faster than the market’s 12.1%.

Better yet, let’s look at one of the colorful charts that give us a visual picture of what’s happening in PC shipments.
As a Mac owner, I’ve certainly done my fair-share of converting others to dump Windows and buy a Mac. And on its quarterly earnings calls with Wall Street analysts, Apple regularly offers some insight into the number of new Macs that were sold to first-timers. In that respect, I’m not looking to rain on Apple’s big-headline moment.

I’m just saying that, when you’re looking at percentages, colorful charts don’t always tell the full story.

(Image credit: Fortune.com; Image source: Needham, IDC)

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RE: Mac sales surge but did they really blow away PC sales?
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
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While it doesn't give you the entire picture, when looking at the rate of growth, percentages are the only way to tell the story.
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if you're trying to say that the "rate of growth" shows Apple outselling PC's, then it's the wrong use of the percentages.

If Macs sales doubled from 100 -200, that's great, but if PC sales went from 100,000 to 150,000, sure the rate of growth of the Mac is better, but still it would show that PC's sold 149,800 more systems.
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What exactly are you implying?
rock06r 23rd Aug 2010
@John Zern

Are you implying that there are 200 people who actually bought a Mac? I can't believe that. That's just too unbelievable of a figure. Next, you're gonna tell us that they all live in the same country too!!

:P
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Exactly right
NonZealot 23rd Aug 2010
@John Zern
Apple zealots constantly forget this.
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I agree
MGP2 23rd Aug 2010
@John Zern
If a particular Best Buy sells an average of one Mac per day, and then one day it sells two, then "We have reports of one store showing a 100% increase in sales."
@John Zern

"if you're trying to say that the "rate of growth" shows Apple outselling PC's, then it's the wrong use of the percentages."

Exactly so. But since Apple isn't outselling PC's, then it is to correct usage. That's why I said it doesn't give the entire picture.

Context is everything.
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Mac has failed to become a PC-killer
NonZealot 23rd Aug 2010
Sorry Apple zealots but Macs must suck because they haven't killed the PC market.

Cue the double standards...
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Who wants to kill the PC market?
Ken_z 23rd Aug 2010
@NonZealot

All Apple has done is to increase profitable sales. The PC market has too much margin cutting, cheapening of support, etc.

Apple's still around, but where is IBM? Compaq?

And how is Dell doing? Compared to Apple? I'm talking financial performance, not unit shipments.

The double standards is to focus on Apple's units and not their financial performance.
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@Ken_z
Funny how anything that doesn't kill Apple is regarded as a failure by you Apple zealots.

Cue the double standards...
@Ken_z - IBM sold to Lenovo.

HP went out of its way to buy Compaq, but the brand name 'Compaq' is still used. In net effect, Compaq went nowhere and Lenovo simply continued where IBM left off.
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Cheapening Of Support... ??
Steve@... 23rd Aug 2010
@Ken_z
apple support is cancelled by apple at the drop of a hat, or at the installation of a piece of software that apple doesn't like...
The PC companies provide a machine at a reasonable profit margin. If the company that I work for sold product at the profit margin charged by apple, the CEO and CFO would be in jail, and not one product would be sold.
Fanboys consider the ridiculous profits as charitable contributions to the church of jobs...
And then they write it off on their taxes, when they pay taxes, which probably isn't very often...
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Where are they now?
Wolfie2K3 23rd Aug 2010
@Ken_z
Let's see.. IBM sold of their PC unit to Lenovo. They're doing OK.

Compaq is now a subsidiary of HP. The Compaq brand is still in use...

Dell certainly isn't hurting THAT badly.
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@Ken_z

I love the way that Apple people brag about Apple's 'profitability' and 'high profit margins'.....

Isn't bragging about 'high profit margins' just another way of saying that the product is overpriced?
@Steve

"apple support is cancelled by apple at the drop of a hat, or at the installation of a piece of software that apple doesn't like..."

Quite a statement. This article is about Macs, so I don't know what you're referring to.

Unless you refer to jailbreaking iPhones. In which case that's ridiculous, as everybody with two brain cells knows jailbreaking voids the warranty automatically.
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Maybe at some point your brain will
frgough 23rd Aug 2010
comprehend the fact that corporations telling individuals what platform they will use is not the same as individuals choosing that platform.
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Welcome to the world of Marketing.
nucrash 23rd Aug 2010
OMG.. We had 35% growth. But we only control 8 % of the market.

Then again, we kept saying this for years as Mac continued to eat away at the existing market, but I really want to know how long before the market really starts growing again. I see some machines that are six to eight years old and yet there is no replacement for them in sight.

We can talk about sales all day, but until we start going on a full PC replacement cycle for some of these companies, we won't have an idea of how great that growth is for Apple. 2010 has been a better year, but until 2011 when many of the bugs of Windows 7 will be worked out.
Those silly apple computers ripping people off with cheep parts
@mjl65 - that is true, but in Apple's defense, the price for the upcoming ATi 5870 video card w/1GB of RAM at $449 isn't a terribly bad price... it's competitive, UNLESS the GPU is far lower than the others I've seen at the same price.
@mjl65

You may have been thinking of Dell...
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But how is Apple really doing?
Ken_z 23rd Aug 2010
Forget blowing away the razor thin margin market, how is Apple doing in these tough times?

We got hit with the "Great Recession" and Apple introduces new products, like the iPad.

They keep pumping out new designs, like the iPhone.

Building up R&D. Building up net cash holdings in tough times. Spending money to make money now and over the long term.

When the economy is in the pits I believe that any profitable growth is impressive. Same with net cash holdings and no debt.
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Only in the tech blogosphere is a company
frgough Updated - 23rd Aug 2010
making billions of dollars a year with a huge market cap and record double-digit growth in sales year over year written off as irrelevant just because their name is Apple.
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@frgough
Oh woe is me...
Oh woe is me...
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Both true and funny
Ken_z 23rd Aug 2010
@frgough

Apple haters are all over the place, but are they really buying Dell shares?

Even NZ has bought a "MockBook Pro" and swears that he doesn't use OS X.

He'll probably buy an iPad and swear that he's loaded Win7 on it as well. happy
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I truly have to wonder
NonZealot 23rd Aug 2010
@Ken_z
Is it so inconceivable in your Apple zealot mind that someone could like Apple hardware and not like OS X? I mean seriously, you truly have that much love for OS X that you believe it to be perfect for everyone?
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This is in stark contrast to the 90's when everyone was counting the days till Apple sold out to Dell or simply wandered off after the Amiga.
There's another statistic, raised by the responder who said financials was a better measure than units shipped, and that is the percentage of market share in their chosen market. In the above $1000 market place, for instance, they totally dominate with 90%+. And they are thriving in that market place. And that statistic was from a year ago. Macs have only improved upon that in the past year.
http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624

In the race for the bottom Microsoft is now caught between Apple dominating the top and Android about to take over the bottom. That next version of Office had better be indispensable.
@dheady@... quite.

It's almost fun to see big corporations acting like animals. Human progress usually works best when people work WITH each other. Competition usually goes only so far, and in this modern day and age competition is only seen as a hurdle to eliminate in order to increase one's profit margin.
@HypnoToad72

To be more accurate, large organizations behave like Bacterial Colonies.

Consider Congress.

Now imagine two competing bacterial cultures on one slide, one gram positive, one gram negative.

No real difference. One species secretes toxins to poison the other, etc, etc.

Our brains only come into the matter when we decide to work together, and you may have noticed that's a bit lacking.
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"I?ve certainly done my fair-share of converting others to dump Windows and buy a Mac."

Why would you convince others to buy overprice garbage?
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Why Do LSD Freaks...
Steve@... 23rd Aug 2010
@day2die
convince others to drink the koolaide and jump from roof tops...
Only jobs knows...
Only jobs knows...
@day2die

Why do you promote buying cheap junk?

Or put another way, why do you care what other people like ?
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Apple products are a niche products, always have been, always will be! If you don't know how to delete a file on your computer, then an Apple is for you! That simple.
@jgoode@...

"if you don't know how to delete a file on your computer"

Simple. I throw it in the Trash.

Silly 'Softie.
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Ah well...
zkiwi 23rd Aug 2010
Another (admittedly this time half-hearted) clickbait blog, and the usual mindless vitriol from the usual suspects.

I guess next week there will be a blog showing that Microsoft's new car is going to dominate the US car market etc. Not that they're going to make a car, but hey, when has anything like that been important to a blogger.
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Microsoft's new car
Partners in Grime Updated - 23rd Aug 2010
I hope it doesn't crash daily.
The only STAT that I would like to know are the number of users who choose each platform (Operating System) as their first choice:
Macintosh
Linux
Windows
Other
So if you were to buy a new computer today as your main computer, which of those four OSes would you pick? If this stat does exist somewhere, please point me to it!
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lol!!
leonk.chef 29th May
Mac?? are u talking of the white colored Personal Computer with an Apple logo at its back and it likes to call it Mac coz it has a different OS... sure then Microsoft should change names of hardwares it supports with different OS versions
1. eXPerience
2. Hasta la Vista Macby
3. Lucky 7
4. Hello mate its windows 8!!
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