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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Obama's big tech powwow invite list: A few stunning omissions

By | February 17, 2011, 2:40pm PST

Summary: If the goals are to support entrepreneurship, increase exports and get the American people back to work, I could think of a few tech executives who should be invited to Obama’s tech meeting in San Francisco.

President Obama’s attendee list for a technology and innovation powwow leaves a lot to be desired.

If the goals are to support entrepreneurship, increase exports and get the American people back to work, I could think of a few tech executives who should be invited to Obama’s tech meeting in San Francisco.

Via the LA Times, the local invites include:

  • John Doerr, partner, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers
  • Carol Bartz, president and CEO, Yahoo!
  • John Chambers, CEO and chairman, Cisco Systems
  • Dick Costolo, CEO, Twitter
  • Larry Ellison, co-founder and CEO, Oracle
  • Reed Hastings, CEO, NetFlix
  • John Hennessy, president, Stanford University
  • Steve Jobs, chairman and CEO, Apple
  • Art Levinson, chairman and former CEO, Genentech
  • Eric Schmidt, chairman and CEO, Google
  • Steve Westly, managing partner and founder, Westly Group
  • Mark Zuckerberg, founder, president and CEO, Facebook

That list is fine as far as it goes, but it seems a bit glam and even includes an exec (Bartz) that is still cutting American workers. For a more substantial discussion, Obama should have invited the following:

  • Sam Palmisano, CEO of IBM: All Big Blue did this week was advance artificial intelligence and capture the imagination of the American people as Watson played Jeopardy. And oh by the way, IBM employs a lot of people. Costolo from Twitter? Not nearly as many people employed.
  • Leo Apotheker, CEO of HP: HP also can put a lot of people to work and innovates too. I’d put Apotheker at Ellison’s table just for giggles.
  • Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon: Obama clearly has his Web 2.0 goggles on. Bezos happens to have this cloud-friendly business called Amazon Web Services that enables a lot of entrepreneurs to launch infrastructure on the cheap.
  • Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft. Ballmer takes his lumps, but surely has a few ideas about how to make the U.S. more innovative. Alternate: Bill Gates.
  • Marc Benioff, CEO of Salesforce.com. You want cloud? Benioff is Captain Cloud. Besides, he’s another one to put at Ellison’s table. Proposed seating order: Benioff, Ellison, Apotheker.

You could add more to the invite list, but those aforementioned five tech honchos are glaring omissions.

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RE: Obama's big tech powwow invite list: A few stunning omissions
wcrist 22nd Feb 2011
All you need do is look at Obama donor list and compare it to the invite list. That is Obama real world everything else does not count..
IBM is a big omission. 4sure.
IBM is still lame... And no one cares what Ballmer has to say...

This is about bringing players to the table that actually have something to bring. Innovators, not imitators, people with ideas, not Redmond copiers. Ballmer doesn?t have a clue about anything, and neither do Palmisano, Apotheker, Bezos, and Benioff. I?m actually surprised that Obama asked Schmidt to be there. The only thing Schmidt can offer is the advice to copy Apple.
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@i8thecat.
I can see why many of the more respected contributors have left this site.

And why where you not invited? You seem to believe you are full of insight, I wonder why Mr. Obama did not invite someone of your keen understanding of the tech world.
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@i8thecat Yes, we should listen to Zucherberg about how Facebook will save the world by letting people post about their vomit problems after drinking heavily
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agreed
banned from zdnet 18th Feb 2011
@i8thecat
i love mdn's take on the matter:
"Unless Obama is planning on jumping around screaming and sweating profusely during his next major speech, Uncle Fester can?t offer him anything useful beyond a few laughs. We assume the point of the dinner is to explore ways of increasing productivity, not smothering it to death; to lead the world, not follow others around like a brain-damaged puppy dog. The country?s in enough trouble already. That?s why Steve Ballmer wasn?t invited to Obama?s innovation dinner."
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@i8thecat
You're completely off base and repeating a baseless meme about MS not innovating... I hate MS as much as any free software communist and don't like to use their software, but the undeniable reality is you're wrong.

The iPhone is arguably just a copy of Windows Mobile 6. Do you see what I did there? I used the same argument that you did.

When any of the companies microsoft "copies" have the enterprise market share that Microsoft has... Then we'll talk. Microsoft continues to innovate and invent in the enterprise, and often sets the standard for what enterprise software should be. What standard do we compare authentication systems to? We compare them to Active Directory. What do we compare Google apps to? Exchange. How many companies use Lotus Notes over exchange? (I'll give you a hint very few). How more companies have OSX Server installed than Windows Server (not many).
@i8thecat

Don't live in the real world, do you?
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Microsoft's impact on the job market/economy is HUGE due to it's ecosystem. There are studies that prove that and Obama's omission of Balmer shows he really doesn't understand the tech industry and who creates or can create jobs.

As for "followers" PLEASE this is the tech industry. Google is clearly trying to come out with their own version of every Microsoft and Apple product. There's a lot of copying going on, but it is CLEARLY not only in Redmond. Why don't you try to think for yourself instead of going along with "group think" as portrayed by the media who is only at the service of pushing Google and Apple stock higher.
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Master Joe Says...Done
MasterJoe 18th Feb 2011
@i8thecat It's incredibly misinformed, ill-informed, or just plain stupid comments like this, and the people who make them that have reduced my interest in ZDNet to reading the articles, and not even bothering to see what kind of ridiculous beyond bias comments are made. From now on, I'll stick to posting the links to my Facebook wall, and making my comments there, and participating in the discussion with some intelligent people I am friends with there. Anyone else who wants to participate in intelligent discussion, and not read rants and raves from people who have no business in the tech industry period, like the post this reply is to above from i8thecat, is welcome to join me.

--Master Joe
Unfortunately, IBM is one of those companies whose main interests include offshoring workers in the US, building facilities outside of the US, and importing labour.

Apple can't really do much except provide advice on how to stamp out entrepreneurship, such as beating people down with a 30% off-the-top fee for... well, existing.
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RE: Obama's big tech powwow invite list: A few stunning omissions
alsobannedfromzdnet Updated - 17th Feb 2011
@RvLeshrac

I don't know, how many people are working in Apple stores across the USA?

How much do Apple stores revitalise the areas surrounding them?

That is one part of Apple's business.

Why don't you take off the Google goggles of ignorance.
@alsobannedfromzdnet So what is the issue with Apple??
@alsobannedfromzdnet you bring up an interesting point. Apple does employ many people in its stores and has many stores!!!! That must have some measureable positive effect on local economies! I think the same for companies like IBM and Microsoft as well. Nearly every business in America has some version of an MS product or IBM, DELL, or HP server... Looking at the list of invites I find that most of these companies barely compare to the job creating reach you mention! Facebook doesn?t employee many people in my area... I know Google doesn't. Oracle indirectly employs a sizeable number...

Also, why not Bill Gates (maybe he didn't want to attend)? With all of the education work and civil service the Bill and Malinda Gated Foundation does...!!!???? He could have been a good contributor.
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Funniest thing I read today
dazzlingd 18th Feb 2011
@alsobannedfromzdnet
"How much do Apple stores revitalise the areas surrounding them?
That is one part of Apple's business."

In Chicagoland, the three Apple stores are in Downtown Chicago on Michigan Avenue (next to Aberchrombie, Burberry etc), Oak Brook and Naperville.

Oak Brook and Naperville have median incomes of around $150K. These areas really needed to be revitalized. Especially as Naperville was #2 in the best places to live in America not so long ago. Now they can shoot for #1!!!!
@alsobannedfromzdnet Working retail is a great aspiration for our children... When my kid grows up I want him to be so privileged as to work in an Apple store. Because working in retail is superior in every way to being an engineer.
@ apetti Gates is focused on saving the world not helping American lead the tech revolution.
Umm.... actually... Gates is using technology to save the world.... so really he IS leading a tech revolution, but in the non-profit industry.
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@MasterJoe What do I do if I refuse to use Facebook? Talk about Google and their tracking, Facebook has got to be 10X worse. I really hope Facebook doesn't become the only way to interact with people because then I will have no friends sad
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Nothing like inviting a bunch of one world foxes to guard the Yankee chicken coop.

Nice billionaire club there Larry. Almost all of which got their billions by selling out America. In business school they call it the new enlightenment (stuff the unemployed, underemployed and foreclosed would never understand).
@klumper
The CEOs of large successful companies tend to be rich. Boo Hoo.
You think the President should be meeting with the unemployed, underemployed and foreclosed for insight on innovation?
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For innovation?
klumper 18th Feb 2011
@Tigertank

No, just for insight.
Plus, doesn't Ellison still want to serve him a subpeona?
It does not matter where they are, if you want to get people back to work you have meetings with the big wigs from many companies and you ditch this damn healthcare law!
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You're such a tard Peter Perry...
i8thecat 17th Feb 2011
@Peter Perry

The health care law is good for America and bad for insurance companies that like raping Americans. Get a clue and buy a vowell doofus... And you don't get advice on how to raise chickens from a butcher, you get them from a farmer.

Obama is meeting with the big wigs of companies that are most likely to have good ideas (unlike you and your retarded anti-american no health care BS). If you are too stupid to understand what that health care bill does for America, then shut up and go learn instead of opposing something you are clueless about.
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I understand what it does
Michael Alan Goff 17th Feb 2011
-Gives some people healthcare
-Raise the price of healthcare
-Not lower the cost curve
-Make the 3% margin company seem like the greedy ones
-Not fix the real problem
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The health care law is good for America and bad for insurance companies that like raping Americans.

Uh, Clueless in Chief's healthcare plan mandates that 30 MILLION people become paying customers of those insurance companies. And you actually believe this is bad for the insurance companies?

Peter Perry isn't the 'tard.
@i8thecat
Maybe you should read the health care bill. I have it, does more harm to working Americans but it does help the too lazy to work illegal?s a lot. And if the courts say it is legal today.. Next bill will be telling you what brand of car you have to buy and how often you have to buy a new one.. And if you cannt afford to buy one. Well then you will be fined until you do.
@i8thecat
Maybe you should read the health care bill. I have it, does more harm to working Americans but it does help the too lazy to work illegal?s a lot. And if the courts say it is legal today.. Next bill will be telling you what brand of car you have to buy and how often you have to buy a new one.. And if you cannt afford to buy one. Well then you will be fined until you do.
@i8thecat
Maybe you should read the health care bill. I have it, does more harm to working Americans but it does help the too lazy to work illegal?s a lot. And if the courts say it is legal today..
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companies getting waivers from the program?

And, it's quite apparent that the "stupid" one in this discussion has been, you, i8thecat.

Instead of creating jobs, it's going to be a jobs killer, and instead of improving the health of Americans, it's going to make things worse with fewer people getting medical degrees, and more people being tossed into the "free" category for medical services with even fewer doctors to take care of them. That's stupidity at it's worst.

The fact is that, with government healthcare, if people don't want to pay, they can't be forced to pay. And, with people seeing as how it's to their advantage to go with the government plan because it would seem to be cheaper, millions more people will become dependent upon the government and more people will retire earlier because, it's going to be another "free" government service, and people won't have to work as long or as hard. Once you get everybody entering the government plan, you'll end up with no real services being rendered because, it's going to be unsustainable with just a relative few paying into the plan. And, no, raising taxes won't help because, the tax base will have been reduced due to so much being taken from private industry that, people could not be hired.

It's the simple-minded, like i8thecat, who can't follow through to the repercussions of more and more government mandates.

But, this sub-discussion is all for nought because, government healthcare, with its mandate for purchasing, is for certain going to be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
These are NOT the people to talk to....he should have VAR's, ISV's, integrators, etc. THEY are the real entrepreneurs here...the people mentioned are established BIG businesses. Only the SMB companies really understand the way it is NOW!
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Kinda like the farmers???
i8thecat 17th Feb 2011
@htotten

Cus farmers were some of our best SMBs and Dubya Dumbass Bush went and royally hosed them out of business... Obama is not doing anything spectacular about bringing them back, but he has some other fish to fry at the moment.
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Look into the mirror whenever you use the word "dumbass",
adornoe@... Updated - 18th Feb 2011
because it's clearly you that isn't using his brains and is posting nonsense and ignorant comments.

While Bush was president, some 8 million jobs were created, and the economy grew at it's fastest pace in the history of the country, and government tax revenues set records because the economy was so productive that the tax base, people and companies, was able to pay more. And he did that while fighting 3 wars, and getting the country to recover from 9/11 and major disasters, such as Katrina. He also did it while getting the country to recover from the recession that Clinton left him in 2000.

Look, it's quite apparent that you're too ignorant to even be commenting about anything, so, why don't you go back to school and come back 10 years from now when you will have grown up and might have a bit more knowledge to help you in formulating some, perhaps credible, arguments.
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Farmers were shafted?
SAStarling 21st Feb 2011
@i8thecat

Well, IF they were shafted by anybody, they're getting paid back in full and THEN some! Google "Pigford Settlements." What a fraud.

Regarding Obama having more fish to fry? Please... Someone needs to promise not to tell Obama what comes after "trillion."
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IBM and HP are *not* American companies
terry flores 17th Feb 2011
They may have vestigial traces or an HQ left in the US, but these are both multi-national conglomerates who have little interest in helping the US or its citizens. IBM goes to great lengths to keep profits offshore to avoid taxes. HP laid off 25,000 workers in the US and backfilled most of the positions with low-paid Indian and Chinese labor. HP's CEO announced just today that "We need to get way more business done in markets other than the U.S."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703561604576150550023973360.html

Obama doesn't need to listen to these people, he needs to give them hell.
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Yes, he should give them hell, but....
sissy sue 18th Feb 2011
@terry flores

That's assuming that Obama really gives a damn.
So far Steve Ballmer has shown to be a follower, turning MS into a "me-too" company since he took over from Gates.

On the other side, Bill Gates could be a good person to add to the list, because at least he had ideas and is not just a xerox machine copying what others do.
to get his technical work converted into a money producing enterprise.

Without the business savvy of Ballmer and others, Microsoft would still be a local mom-and-pop software operation somewhere in smallville.

Gates was not a visionary and was someone who possessed very good technical skills, but he wasn't a businessperson. He was "forced" into becoming a businessperson because of the need for the "founder" to be out in front of the operation. Otherwise, he would've been content to have worked in the background and to let the businesspeople handle operations. But, he did finally do that when he retired from the day-to-day operations, leaving Ballmer in charge.
Simple really, stop spending, stop printing money, cut the bureaucracy, cut the regulations, lower cap gains taxes, remove the business tax. The pow wow was a shakedown for 2012 campaign funding.
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It's about jobs...campaign jobs
Get-Smart 21st Feb 2011
I agree. The meeting is just for show, to distract from the damage he and his cronies are doing. It's about getting him reelected and keeping the government bloated. Gee, I can't wait to hear about this "jobs" (wink, wink) meeting in his next State of the Unionization speech.
What about getting inventors like Dean Kamen and James Dyson?
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Our Socialist Chief
pizzaman7 Updated - 18th Feb 2011
Please don't be fooled into thinking Barry really wants to grow our economy. If so then we would be drilling for our own oil in this country of which we have plenty. He would stop his insane government spending which is clearly not working, and he would stop his over-the-top regulations that stifle free enterprise.

Barry wants wealth distribution to come from the hard-working producers and he doesn't care if he breaks the system in doing so. His actions speak louder than this grand rehearsed speeches that are getting laughable at this point.

The first thing we need to do is cut spending massively. Quite spending $1.65 trillion that we don't have.

The only way to grow jobs and the economy is cut spending, cut regulations, and cut taxes (we are 2nd highest in corp taxes in the world). Businesses are under constant threat of new regulations that they have no certainty what the future holds. No one has confidence in this economy.

Socialism has failed time and time again and it is failing now.
Well since this trip is for silicon valley leaders I don't see why MS, Amazon and IBM would be there since they don't call northern ca their home. Its very much an assist for california as well since ca is a big democrat state with big donations. As for HP, maybe if they stopped massive outsourcing they would get a seat. Salesforce I can understand, they will be very important in the coming years.

But we can't assume they weren't invited. Plus, you can't invite everyone on the planet otherwise I would say, how about ebay, vmware, netapp, etc. That would be a mighty big room and lots of arguing.
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stunning omissions
Professor8 18th Feb 2011
Kim Berry, John Miano, Richard F. Tax, Ron Hira, Norm Matloff, Paul Greenberg, et al. should have been invited.
since he has no clues about innovation or about creating or running a business, or about how jobs are created.

He should relinquish his seat to someone in government that has run a business and has created jobs. Should Obama be involved at all? Sure, after the conference is over, he can get reports about how the really qualified would like to create jobs and businesses, and how government should or should not be involved. Other than that, Obama's presence will just turn the conference into a show, to try to impress the people about how he's trying to get the country and economy back on track, but, he has no credibility on the economy, and the best that he can do right now is to remain on the sidelines, and allow the people that really know how to create businesses and jobs, go to work.
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Maybe he was...
SAStarling Updated - 21st Feb 2011
@adornoe@...

Just trying to "organize" the tech "community." Problem is, the tech "community" is not anything like the other communities he's used to. Unfortunately if he has his way with the tech communities like he did the others, they will soon be barren and lifeless just like the others. Just check out many of the neighborhoods on the south side of Chicago.
Frankly Larry, who cares what you think!
Dell and IBM already met with the President on 1 FEB! Along with Xerox Corp, Applied Materials, Micron Technology, and EMC Corp.
I'm confused about what makes Apple (Jobs) qualified to advise on these topics. Quick question... How many students have you met that internship at Apple? How many people do you know that know someone who works at Apple. They have few jobs, and no foward thinking outside of their own company. In addition, the "Apple Store" has no real bearing on the economy. Think about it, the number of people working at Apple stores is easily less then that of say coldstone. Imagine if coldstone went out of business... We'd miss the amazing icecream but that's about the only real impact. Same with the apple store.

I realize the comments about balmer made earlier have some validity, But I think Bill Gates would be much better to have then Jobs. He has a broder perspective then Jobs. He can see the broader picture and do it in a way that dosn't just support one company.

Second Idea:
-each of the invited companys sends their brightest intern or young employee. They usualy see the future a little better and have less reason to manuver for their company.
--Food for thought
All you need do is look at Obama donor list and compare it to the invite list. That is Obama real world everything else does not count..

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