Oracle CEO Ellison: Fusion apps will give us edge on cloud crowd

Oracle CEO Ellison: Fusion apps will give us edge on cloud crowd

Summary: Oracle's quarter was dominated by talk about Exadata and hardware, but there were a few signs that CEO Larry Ellison was preparing to position his Fusion applications as an alternative to on-demand rivals such as Salesforce.com and Workday.

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Oracle's quarter was dominated by talk about Exadata and hardware, but there were a few signs that CEO Larry Ellison was preparing to position his Fusion applications as an alternative to on-demand rivals such as Salesforce.com and Workday.

Now Oracle's definition of the cloud differs from the software as a service competition. Ellison talks in terms of both public and private clouds. Oracle's Cloud Office effort lacks a public version.

This cloud debate---best illustrated by the ongoing banter between Ellison and Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff---is likely to intensify. The SaaS guys will talk about the real cloud. Ellison will talk servers as being the cloud.

Where will Oracle's Fusion apps fit in? Fusion apps, which arrive early in 2011, will be positioned as both cloud and on-premise apps. By offering both, Ellison is hoping to outflank SaaS rivals.

Here's what Ellison said:

Next calendar year, we're going to be talking a lot about Fusion how we've got this new generation of applications by the way that runs on premise and in the cloud, in the public cloud, as well as private clouds on premise, public clouds. Nobody has this. I mean, SAP Business ByDesign runs just in the cloud. SAP's traditional applications run just on premise. Fusion runs both places. You decide where you want to put this. You can't do that with Salesforce.com. You can't do that with Workday. A lot of these guys. So we've got this brand-new, extremely modern java based suite of applications called fusion that runs in the cloud, runs on premise. It's going to dramatically strengthen other position against our cloud based competitors like Salesforce and Workday and our traditional competitor, SAP. So we think you're just seeing the beginning of us gaining share in applications. That's going to really take off next year.

The big question is whether customers will see the on-premise and cloud deployment options as a big win. If they do, Oracle will have Fusion well positioned. But there are so many details missing regarding code bases, business models and whether Oracle will really cannibalize its on-premise versions. In the meantime, we're awaiting details on how cloud and on-premise Fusion apps will work together and hosting specifics.

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  • RE: Oracle CEO Ellison: Fusion apps will give us edge on cloud crowd

    **YAWN** Wow, some NEW paradigm from Ellison...NOT. The truth is that companies no longer want big servers in racks with heft costs like hardware, maintenance, upgrades, technical staff, NOC Support...the list goes on and on. Oracle is just trying to find a way to keep their big multi-million dollar behemoth machines on site...wake up Larry before you get left in a dust CLOUD.
    geeman44
    • RE: Oracle CEO Ellison: Fusion apps will give us edge on cloud crowd

      @geeman44

      HA HA HA.... did he say anything... about.... this... course NOT..

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  • Implausible

    Oracle Fusion Apps is the eCommerce database with a new user interface.<br><br>The eCommerce database is a mixture of outmoded old design and incompetent new design (obviously designed by OO architects - need I say more).<br><br>Stuck in between the user interface and the database is an enormous chunk of pointless complexity called Oracle Fusion Middleware, whose main functions are to make Oracle Apps hard to install, hard to maintain, unstable and difficult to administer.
    jorwell
    • RE: Oracle CEO Ellison: Fusion apps will give us edge on cloud crowd

      @jorwell

      are all the CEO in the back room at this moment in time....I BET THEY ARE...

      Working in the Pink Diamond Mine.... large discovery....
      Create Chaos Pandoria13

      A very unique occurrence in nature has been found;
      analyzed; assessed; weighed; tested; enhanced;
      implemented and deployed in the pink diamond mine's of the Mainframes'.

      www.z390.org and www.zCOBOL

      zCICS; zVSAM; zSORT etc... etc... etc...

      read all about it !!!!!!!!!! Then Try IT !!!!!!!!

      Supporting Newest z196 instruction set execution through emulation x86 & x64 in JAVA

      Interfaced with IBM DB2 Express-C batch SQL capabilities; [ I actually help in doing some of this, really ]

      Deployed onto the CloudShare Pro CLOUD [ I actually DID this in Jan of 2011, really ]

      Running on Win & Linux or J2SE supported platform's

      100% JAVA Open Source... 100% F R E E ...

      caution... please, read the ton's and ton's of documentation provided, it saves you a lot of time...
      caution... please, ton's and ton's of examples, it saves you a lot of time...
      caution... please, join the group, and read all of the group posting's from the beginning, it saves you a lot of time...
      caution... please, ask questions, you will be amazed at the cut right to the chase on the subject requiring attention,
      it saves you a lot of time...
      caution... please, you might find yourself rummaging around the attic or garage for that dang old source code you developed back when,
      that may not save you time...
      caution... please, you might just actually save your company and you, very serious monies...
      caution... please, SHARE, share, ShArE, sHaRe...
      caution... please, introduce yourself, you just might find that Old Code Slinger Buddy from back a while ago, you forgot about...
      caution... please, don't take my word for it, that it WORK's, try it, you find a REAL BUG [$ 1.00 reward ],
      Mr. Don Higgin's will rule if it a BUG or NOT...
      caution... please, believe found myself doing that nasty bit fiddling thing again,
      and I can do that in xxxx instructions, like name that tune...
      caution... please, believe found bunche's of JAVA, IBM HLASM Assembler, COBOL, WIN, LINUX & etc........
      WIZARD's still exist, that were locked away in the back room like me.
      caution... please, O P E N S O U R C E is the only way to GO...
      caution... please, you can donate or not donate, that is entirely up to YOU...
      caution... please, it is advisable, to look out the window and see if the sun has risen...
      caution... please, Lot's of thing's to get involved with, no offer of assistance has ever been refused so far...
      caution... please, ... ... ... .... .... flower box's are still kool

      caution... please, Adviable to Display Entering Pink Diamond Mine Unlimited Work Zone Area...

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      2011 is gonna,,,,, Rock
      Page-Cray
  • This is an oxymoron surely?

    "brand-new, extremely modern java based "

    What on earth has Java got to do with modern software?
    jorwell
  • NOT next to the C L O U D.... SMACK IN THE CENTER OF IT.. Thank you IBM..

    Working in the Pink Diamond Mine.... large discovery....
    Create Chaos Pandoria13

    A very unique occurrence in nature has been found;
    analyzed; assessed; weighed; tested; enhanced;
    implemented and deployed in the pink diamond mine's of the Mainframes'.

    www.z390.org and www.zCOBOL

    zCICS; zVSAM; zSORT etc... etc... etc...

    read all about it !!!!!!!!!! Then Try IT !!!!!!!!

    Supporting Newest z196 instruction set execution through emulation x86 & x64 in JAVA

    Interfaced with IBM DB2 Express-C batch SQL capabilities; [ I actually help in doing some of this, really ]

    Deployed onto the CloudShare Pro CLOUD [ I actually DID this in Jan of 2011, really ]

    Running on Win & Linux or J2SE supported platform's

    100% JAVA Open Source... 100% F R E E ...

    caution... please, read the ton's and ton's of documentation provided, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, ton's and ton's of examples, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, join the group, and read all of the group posting's from the beginning, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, ask questions, you will be amazed at the cut right to the chase on the subject requiring attention,
    it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, you might find yourself rummaging around the attic or garage for that dang old source code you developed back when,
    that may not save you time...
    caution... please, you might just actually save your company and you, very serious monies...
    caution... please, SHARE, share, ShArE, sHaRe...
    caution... please, introduce yourself, you just might find that Old Code Slinger Buddy from back a while ago, you forgot about...
    caution... please, don't take my word for it, that it WORK's, try it, you find a REAL BUG [$ 1.00 reward ],
    Mr. Don Higgin's will rule if it a BUG or NOT...
    caution... please, believe found myself doing that nasty bit fiddling thing again,
    and I can do that in xxxx instructions, like name that tune...
    caution... please, believe found bunche's of JAVA, IBM HLASM Assembler, COBOL, WIN, LINUX & etc........
    WIZARD's still exist, that were locked away in the back room like me.
    caution... please, O P E N S O U R C E is the only way to GO...
    caution... please, you can donate or not donate, that is entirely up to YOU...
    caution... please, it is advisable, to look out the window and see if the sun has risen...
    caution... please, Lot's of thing's to get involved with, no offer of assistance has ever been refused so far...
    caution... please, ... ... ... .... .... flower box's are still kool

    caution... please, Adviable to Display Entering Pink Diamond Mine Unlimited Work Zone Area...

    Pandoria13@hotmail.com

    2011 is gonna,,,,, Rock
    Page-Cray
  • do not torment yourself ... la la la

    Working in the Pink Diamond Mine.... large discovery....
    Create Chaos Pandoria13

    A very unique occurrence in nature has been found;
    analyzed; assessed; weighed; tested; enhanced;
    implemented and deployed in the pink diamond mine's of the Mainframes'.

    www.z390.org and www.zCOBOL

    zCICS; zVSAM; zSORT etc... etc... etc...

    read all about it !!!!!!!!!! Then Try IT !!!!!!!!

    Supporting Newest z196 instruction set execution through emulation x86 & x64 in JAVA

    Interfaced with IBM DB2 Express-C batch SQL capabilities; [ I actually help in doing some of this, really ]

    Deployed onto the CloudShare Pro CLOUD [ I actually DID this in Jan of 2011, really ]

    Running on Win & Linux or J2SE supported platform's

    100% JAVA Open Source... 100% F R E E ...

    caution... please, read the ton's and ton's of documentation provided, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, ton's and ton's of examples, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, join the group, and read all of the group posting's from the beginning, it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, ask questions, you will be amazed at the cut right to the chase on the subject requiring attention,
    it saves you a lot of time...
    caution... please, you might find yourself rummaging around the attic or garage for that dang old source code you developed back when,
    that may not save you time...
    caution... please, you might just actually save your company and you, very serious monies...
    caution... please, SHARE, share, ShArE, sHaRe...
    caution... please, introduce yourself, you just might find that Old Code Slinger Buddy from back a while ago, you forgot about...
    caution... please, don't take my word for it, that it WORK's, try it, you find a REAL BUG [$ 1.00 reward ],
    Mr. Don Higgin's will rule if it a BUG or NOT...
    caution... please, believe found myself doing that nasty bit fiddling thing again,
    and I can do that in xxxx instructions, like name that tune...
    caution... please, believe found bunche's of JAVA, IBM HLASM Assembler, COBOL, WIN, LINUX & etc........
    WIZARD's still exist, that were locked away in the back room like me.
    caution... please, O P E N S O U R C E is the only way to GO...
    caution... please, you can donate or not donate, that is entirely up to YOU...
    caution... please, it is advisable, to look out the window and see if the sun has risen...
    caution... please, Lot's of thing's to get involved with, no offer of assistance has ever been refused so far...
    caution... please, ... ... ... .... .... flower box's are still kool

    caution... please, Adviable to Display Entering Pink Diamond Mine Unlimited Work Zone Area...

    Pandoria13@hotmail.com

    2011 is gonna,,,,, Rock
    Page-Cray
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