Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

Summary: Oracle wants to hear from Google CEO Larry Page in its lawsuit against the search giant over Android.

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Oracle wants to hear from Google CEO Larry Page in its lawsuit against the search giant over Android.

In a letter Thursday to U.S. District Judge Donna Ryu, Oracle said it wanted to take four more depositions before the discovery phase ends July 29. First up is Page.

Oracle said:

(Page) reportedly made the decision to acquire Android, Inc., and thereby develop and launch the platform that Oracle now contends infringes its patents and copyrights. Mr. Page also participated in negotiations that took place between Sun and Google regarding a Java license for Android and in subsequent communications with Oracle’s CEO, Larry Ellison (whose deposition Google has requested). Oracle believes that Mr. Page’s testimony will likely be relevant with respect to a number of other key issues in this case as well, including the value of the infringement to Google.

As trial watcher Florian Mueller noted, there's nothing quite like a high profile CEO appearance at a trial. Meanwhile, Oracle has a history of making a big deal of CEO testimony even if there isn't any. Oracle chased HP CEO Leo Apotheker around in its lawsuit against SAP over TomorrowNow.

Google also plans to take the deposition of former Google employees Dipchand Nishar and Bob Lee. Both were involved with Android at its launch. Oracle also wants a deposition from Tim Lindholm, an Android software engineer and former Sun employee who was involved in talks between Google and Sun over a Java license.

Google hasn't agreed with Oracle's need to depose Page.

Related: Google pans Oracle damages argument: Java was fragmented well before Android

Topics: Security, Android, Oracle, Mobility, Mobile OS, Legal, Hardware, Google, CXO, Smartphones

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  • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

    Oracle should shut up and drop the lawsuit!
    The same way people are tired of paying taxes, the developers are tired of paying the Oracle, M$ or Apple tax. People demand freedom of software and a stop to all the lawsuits against innovators and job creators!
    Linux Geek
    • Open source isn't a license to steal

      Open source wienies always whine that those with patents or copyrights should just shut up and let their IP be stolen for use in open source products - they scoff in general at other's rights to protect IP they spent time and money producing because "everything should be free man" and "we should have to pay -insert name here-'s tax <br><br>While there is are an awful lot of patents awarded that shouldn't be because the PTO does such a poor job of vetting and there are a lot of patent trolls out there that should be shutdown with prejudice, you invalidate your opinion by taking a generic "you all should just shut up and let us steal your IP" position
      archangel9999
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999 As an openSUSE Linux user, I apologize for Linux Geek's instigation of theft.

        "People demand freedom of software..." No, no they don't. I remember freedom of health care rallies, but no protests in the street over free software.
        jgm@...
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999
        Legal scolars have already proven on grocklaw that Oracle has no case and and there is no IP infringement,
        just FUD.
        Linux Geek
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999 <br>You must be a paid $hill that knows nothing about free software. FYI here it is: <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html</a><br>The only theft is committed by thugs like Oracle , M$ or Apple!
        Linux Geek
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        "Legal scholars have already proven on grocklaw..."

        OK wait - let me stop laughing - you're killing me :-)

        Yes, all those great legal minds posting from their mama's basement on grocklaw - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - now that's funny
        archangel9999
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999 the google implemen<a href="http://www.tran33m.com/vb/">t</a>ation would be if they made changes (improve<a href="http://vb.maas1.com/">m</a>ents) to the java classes without contributing the source code back to the base.<br>that's what M$ did and was deservedly punished.
        alasiri
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        I think Oracle should calm down<a href="http://www.lacarhire.net">,</a> think about it and drop the lawsuit<a href="http://www.ehireacar.com">.</a> People don<a href="http://www.gigsource.co.uk">'</a>t like paying taxes<a href="http://www.howtodjs.com">,</a> developers don<a href="http://www.uk-djs.net">'</a>t like paying Apple or Oracle.
        molly83
    • Once again

      @Linux Geek <br><br>Once again your words attest to both your ignorance and naive presumptions about what is and isn't fair in the business of software and technology<br><br>If people want to offer their software to others for free, that's absolutely fantastic and I applaud their egaletarianism - but giving their work away doesn't mean they get to pirate the protected IP of others in the process - that's the backwards philosophy music and video pirates espouse<br><br>Whether Oracle's got a valid claim in this case is immaterial to your generic, inane, childish, self-entitled "shut up - I'm tired of paying your taxes you people who create the things I want but want me to pay you for it - I want what I want and I demand it to be free"<br><br>You've got the basic philosophy of a chronic multi-generational welfare case and a severe case of cranial-rectal convergence
      archangel9999
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999
        That's pure BS!
        I'm defending people's freedom against corporate thugs and trolls.
        Linux Geek
      • Are you 15?

        @Linux Geek -

        The delusion that you're defending anyone's freedom is a rationalization - you're only defending your own self-entitled "I should have everything I want for free" greed.

        That's the mantra of the music and video pirates and all the other whining children who want what they want for free regardless of who they might steal it from.

        One of these days, hopefully, you'll outgrow this juvenile entitlement complex. Perhaps when mom finally stops enabling you and kicks you out of her basement :-)
        archangel9999
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @archangel9999 I would bet that if the day ever comes where Linux Geek becomes a producer versus a freeloader that his attitude on this subject will do a complete 180.
        non-biased
    • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

      @Linux Geek I can't wait until a similar suit comes up but where Google is the plaintiff. It will really illustrate how pathetic you are when in that case you will justify it to no end and be screaming from the rafters for Google to get them. You are about as pathetic as a fanboy can get.
      non-biased
    • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

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  • Fishing expedition?

    I do think that plaintiffs should be required to show probable cause when they file lawsuits. If you need the defendant to help prove your case for you, it probably isn't a very strong case.
    John L. Ries
    • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

      @John L. Ries
      Exactly! The judge must throw away the lawsuit for lack of evidence.
      Linux Geek
      • I don't know enough about this case specifically, but...

        @Linux Geek<br>...I do think that if the plaintiff fails to provide sufficient documentary evidence (affidavits, depositions, etc) to establish the allegations made at the time the suit is filed, the suit should be automatically thrown out.

        But I'm talking about what I think the rules should be, not what they are.
        John L. Ries
      • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

        @Linux Geek @ Ries I don't know what your legal understanding is, but what court cases have you been involved in where it wasn't a good idea to get your opponent to admit to things in depositions or on the stand?

        "The judge must throw away the lawsuit for lack of evidence."

        Um... it's a pre-trial deposition... which produces evidence... just like discovery... you're not really making sense here.
        jgm@...
  • C'mon Dignan

    Why do you guys continue to reference Mueller?

    He's been discredited over and over again and his anti-FOSS agenda has been repeatedly exposed.
    Tim Patterson
    • RE: Oracle looks for Page pyrotechnics in Google Android lawsuit

      @Tim Patterson - AMEN!

      Find a better source. FM is the new Rob Endearl, Maureen O'Gara (and the rest of the list of idoit pundits).
      chipbeef