Oracle vs. Salesforce.com's Benioff goes WWE: We're being played

Oracle vs. Salesforce.com's Benioff goes WWE: We're being played

Summary: Oracle cancels a keynote from Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff and the crowd goes wild. Suddenly, this feels more like a pro wrestling match.

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Oracle vs. Salesforce.com's Benioff goes WWE: We're being played

Oracle cancels Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff's keynote at the OpenWorld powwow as the two companies engage in what appears to be a pro wrestling match.

But like a pro wrestling match I'm not quite buying the story here. The storyline on Wednesday and Thursday went like this:

  • Benioff was scheduled to deliver an OpenWorld keynote on the social enterprise. Salesforce.com is an Oracle customer.
  • With less than 24 hours to go, Benioff's keynote is axed by Ellison. You can almost see Vince McMahon scheming in the background.
  • Ellison plays the bad guy. You're scared of Salesforce.com and the cloud, tweets Benioff.

    Did Vince McMahon script this Ellison-Benioff feud?

  • Benioff will hold his keynote at the St. Regis. In the early going, Salesforce.com gets all the PR points. Oracle is portrayed as old world and clueless.
  • However, Ellison's keynote will go on and he'll jab at Benioff and the "false cloud" argument. He'll also plug the hell out of Oracle's army of appliances used to sell software. Even as hardware revenue slides, Oracle is obsessed with its engineered systems.
  • For the record, Oracle says that Benioff's keynote was rescheduled to 8 a.m. Thursday---about the same time the software giant's customer appreciation party from Wednesday night will end.
  • What's in it for Ellison and Oracle's ham-handed approach to the Benioff keynote? Ellison can talk smack, talk up his appliances and the line that Oracle powers the cloud. What's missing? Fusion. Just like last year, Oracle will tout hardware and gloss over the fact that most of those folks at OpenWorld are there for the software.

In other words, Ellison and Benioff deliver a replay of last year. Benioff talks up his cloud case. Ellison talks hardware. Most Oracle customers really want to know what's up with Fusion deployments and any potential pain ahead. Anyone want to bet that Ellison recycles a few lines from last year?

While the customers that actually buy Oracle's wares are distracted, the crowd goes wild. Arik Hesseldahl at AllThingsD says:

It wasn’t for nothing that Oracle, which does a significant business in Customer Relationship Management — or CRM — software, advertised heavily around the time of Salesforce’s recent Dreamforce conference. Salesforce, as we all know, does CRM in the cloud, and has a lot of momentum behind it of late. This could just be Larry Ellison’s way of expressing his unhappiness with Benioff.

Quentin Hardy at the New York Times says:

While at first saying he was mystified as to why Oracle would bump his million-dollar appearance, Mr. Benioff later said he got scrubbed “because Sunday night was such a disaster. Larry was not prepared. The keynote was panned in the blogs and in the on Twittersphere. There was concern that we would put on a better presentation. You don’t have somebody over to your house to tell better jokes than you.”

ZDNet's Dennis Howlett notes:

Oracle reschedules Marc Benioff, CEO Salesforce.com’s keynote to some g-d awful time of day, which Benioff flips to having been cancelled. Nice when you can get away with it and of course the media are all over the story like a dose of wildfire clap.

Dennis Pombriant at Beagle Research adds:

Of all the bush league things that could be done, this is a topper. If you thought the days of animosity and dirty tricks was over in Silicon Valley because we had somehow grown up — or at least aged out of it — tonight is a sobering reminder that they play by bare knuckles rules out here.

Am I really supposed to buy the storyline that Oracle booked Benioff thinking he wasn't going to mention false cloud at least 30 times? Benioff's Exadata as false cloud slide is a staple in his talks. We'll overlook that Benioff runs Oracle databases and has a ton of Dell servers in the background.

Add it up and this Benioff keynote cancellation is good theater and nothing more. In the end, I think the industry is being played as Ellison and Benioff duel to see who has the most attendees at OpenWorld and Dreamforce respectively. Like a pro wrestling match the ring---in this case San Francisco's Moscone Center---isn't big enough for the both of them.

Topics: Enterprise Software, Oracle

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  • Ellison was never know for his 'subtle ways', and this...

    just reads like a manufactured fracas anyway. It seems to be designed to make news -- grab some attention -- like you're giving them here and I'm reading now. The real issue is that neither one has anything new to say, and both have customers clamoring for new information. Since they can't give the people what they want, they give them a circus and hope nobody notices the lack of substance.

    Unfortunately, for them, we do.

    I expected better ... well, from Sales Force anyway ... I have come to expect grandstanding and stupidity from Larry.

    Regards,
    Jon
    JonathonDoe
  • Meanwhile...

    MSFT creeps up with better then ever SQL Server 2012, CRM Dynamics, Azure, Office 365....
    MSFTWorshipper
  • RE: Oracle vs. Salesforce.com's Benioff goes WWE: We're being played

    Read about this on another site about how Benioff tweeted about it... oh BooHoo "Mommy they won't let me play with them..." What a whack job, I don't know who is worse Ellison or Benioff .
    ItsTheBottomLine
    • RE: Oracle vs. Salesforce.com's Benioff goes WWE: We're being played

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