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RIM: "Playbook redefines what a tablet should do"

By | December 16, 2010, 3:11pm PST

Summary: As RIM gears up for the launch of the Playbook tablet, all eyes are on pent-up demand in the enterprise.

On Research in Motion’s conference call with analysts to discuss third quarter earnings result, there was the obligatory comments about the quarter that just passed - but clearly, one of the biggest topics of interest centered around the upcoming launch of the Playbook tablet.

The company didn’t offer many new details on the Playbook, other than to suggest that plans for a launch in the first quarter are still on track and that initial feedback from partners and “many key customers” has been positive.

One thing was clear, though. As important as the consumer market has been for some competitors in the smartphone and tablet space, as well as for RIM in some international markets, make no mistake: enterprise business is RIM’s big target market.

On the call, co-CEO Jim Balsillie said:

We have real differentiation and real opportunities for the extension of the business. The pent-up interest in the playbook is really overwhelming.

Specifically, he noted carrier billing and value added services, suggesting that there are a “litany of things happening in that area for (the) playbook and smartphone over the year.”

For RIM, the future isn’t necessarily just about growth in new markets, it’s new categories and new services. Balsillie said: “I think we’re laying the pieces for sustaining growth for a really long long time.”

As for interest among business customers, Balsillie said it was “uniformly strong… I can’t think of one account that’s not beating us down to get units,” noting that the first shipments will be geared at enterprise customers because there’s so much demand and interest. He suggested that there’s so much interest that some customers are delaying their tablet-purchasing decisions in anticipation of Playbook.

Why so much interest? Being enterprise ready, including push technology, enterprise-grade architecture and tools, overall performance and reputation of being secure cannot be underestimated, he said.

“I think the Playbook redefines what a tablet should do,” he said. “It sets the bar way higher on performance.”

Specifically, the company is looking to be enterprise ready in areas such as secure VPN, document viewing and editing and enterprise apps that will be ready out of the box. Balsillie said:

I’ve talked to a lot of CIOs from Fortune 500 companies… The enterprise grade is the really big big thing… They have to be the keepers of the system integrity and I think we’ve got that figured out in the way we’ve implemented this.

Looking ahead, the company’s revenue forecast for this quarter doesn’t reflect anything Playbook-related, though there will be some Playbook-related operating expenses in Q4 as the company begins spending on launch preparation.

For RIM, which clearly comes across as bullish about the prospects of Playbook, the shift in business model is about grabbing position in a rapidly expanding space. He said:

This is not just competition between players in this space. It’s expanding to do things you normally wouldn’t do… Business models are changing and I think we’ll have some pretty pleasant surprises in what we’re doing in calendar year 2011.

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RE: RIM:
birumut Updated - 17th Jun
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Last I head they don't even have a working browser (or an app) ..... so what is it they are redefining?? So far it does NOTHING.
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"So far it does NOTHING."
itpro_z 16th Dec 2010
@wackoae

What a coincidence. From the enterprise perspective, neither does the iPad.
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@itpro_z The difference is that the Playbook does NOTHING on the enterprise and NOTHING on the consumer side.

In other words, you can't claim that your product is "redefining" anything when it is not even working.
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We have 500 playbooks
kent42 18th Dec 2010
@itpro_z my company, one of the top banks in the nation has over 500 iPads out in the field. My wife's company, another Fortune 500, also has the iPad out in sales. Not sure where you are but you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
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It's not my product
itpro_z 16th Dec 2010
@wackoae, I don't work for RIM. I have a slight interest in the Playbook, as I know that RIM will focus on the enterprise. Whether it will succeed or not none of us know, but I do bristle a bit at the suggestion by some that we don't need any other tablets. The iPad is a nice piece of consumer electronics, but offers little to many of us.
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Tell that to many in the medical
MacCanuck 17th Dec 2010
/health field, education and those in business who are finding ways to use the iPad outside the consumer space.

About the only ones who have no use for an iPad, or even bother trying to make it fit or work, are typically the inane, irrational Apple bashers who wouldn't give Apple credit for anything and/or wouldn't be caught dead with an Apple product.

Funny how so many are falling over themselves trying to duplicate this "worthless" piece of technology.
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we hear this all the time..
doctorSpoc 17th Dec 2010
@itpro_z.. BUT.. what will the Playbook do that the iPad won't? no one has an answer.. just vague BS... enterprise this and that.. but can't point to anything concrete.. i have not heard anyone point to any concrete anything that the Playbook will do an the iPad won't that makes it more "enterprise ready".. Citrix, SAP that are responsible for the security and confidential files of Fortune 500 companies and have embrace the iPad have apps for it etc..

these enterprise ready claims are complete and utter BS and everyone knows it... please point to anything concrete that makes the Playbook more "enterprise ready" than an iPad.
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RE: RIM:
Matt_Fabb@... 17th Dec 2010
@doctorSpoc, many corporations who are already using BlackBerry smartphones talk about how the PlayBook will very easily plug into their existing network.

Something else RIM has been talking about is giving enterprise the ability to rollout installations of apps easily over a larger number of units. Compared to the iPad which apps have to be installed individually through iTunes. Also the ability for IT lock down or disable certain features easily. Corporations like the idea of a multi-touch device, but there's a lot of issues where iPad doesn't fit their needs and RIM is looking to address this.
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RE: RIM:
doctorSpoc Updated - 17th Dec 2010
@Matt_Fabb@...

many corporations who are already using BlackBerry smartphones talk about how the PlayBook will very easily plug into their existing network.

it doesn't connect into anything in any special way.. it's a WiFi only device.. it's has no cellular connection option.. it can't even be tethered to anything other than a blackberry.. that is just stupid! these guys are shooting themselves in the foot right out of the door.. right there..

Something else RIM has been talking about is giving enterprise the ability to rollout installations of apps easily over a larger number of units. Compared to the iPad which apps have to be installed individually through iTunes.

This is just completely and utterly false.. Apple likewise has an Enterprise program for distribution your own in house apps and apps available in the app store outside of iTunes and even remotely.. this is just pure ignorance we are talking about here on your part..

Also the ability for IT lock down or disable certain features easily. Corporations like the idea of a multi-touch device, but there's a lot of issues where iPad doesn't fit their needs and RIM is looking to address this.

again.. you're speak from ignorance here.. apple likewise has tools for IT departments to configure devices, do remote wipes, remote app updates and installation... etc

so you are zero for 3.. none of the things you mentioned are things that aren't available on an iPad..

see the thing is you haven't actually looked into it (doesn't seem to stop you from talking about it though.. lol), but enterprises that have looked into realize that it has the hooks and controls they need, the security they need.. you honestly think that companies like Citrix and SAP would be bullish on the platform if it was viable and secure??

as i said.. this comes down to straight up ignorance.. the level of ignorance is absolutely astounding.. and people like you make false assumptions and then are willing to speak with a degree of authority on things you are blissfully ignorant of.. aren't you in the least be embarrassed that every thing you wrote here is false and obviously just wrong assumption that you have made without ever bothering to check out in the least?? some of you people are a joke!

http://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/enterprise/
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Typical Fanboy
Intosh Updated - 17th Dec 2010
@MacCanuck:

He said "offers little to many of us"; he didn't say the iPad has absolutely no use.

So before you go berserk and call people basher or hater, take a deep breath and learn to read.

It is the typical fanboy reactions like yours that most people hate, not Apple.
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@itpro_z It use to be that the IT departments were forward thinkers and had better kit than consumers. Now that dynamic has changed. Often people leave their modern OS and gadgets to go "back in time" at their place of work.
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RE: RIM:
Matt_Fabb@... 20th Dec 2010
@doctorSpoc, you got me there, I was completely unaware of Apple's iOS enterprise efforts. My mistake and thanks for including a link.

Meanwhile the PlayBook is coming out with a 3G, 4G options, just not at launch.

Meanwhile, I'll provide a link of my own, where companies talk very positively about the PlayBook fitting into their infrastructure:
http://www.thestar.com/business/companies/rim/article/893079--sun-life-ing-unit-pick-rim-s-playbook

What I was saying is based on what companies like this are saying in articles. I've seen other articles once again with quotes about why companies want the PlayBook over the iPad.
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RE: RIM:
Matt_Fabb@... 17th Dec 2010
@wackoae RIM have demoed a working browser and in a video compared it to the iPad, showing how much faster it was. The browser is just not in the PlayBook simulator for developers, as they are still working on it. However, it apparently should be available in a few weeks.

Meanwhile according to RIM, they have 16,000 PlayBook apps submitted from developers already.
@Matt_Fabb@... it was demo'd by a RIM engineer, filmed by a RIM engineer under very controlled circumstances.. other demo's in live circumstances the browser was not demo'd.. that should tell you at what point that "browser" is in that they wouldn't take the chance to demo it live.. only on tape.. event in the demos of the device it's very controlled.. no one is allowed to touch the screen or click on anything other than the RIM employee..

this is what is refered to as demo ware.. just cook something up to make it look like we have a real live product with a heart beat here even though it REALLY far from being fully cooked.. you guys are really falling for these smoke an mirror.. you could actually do those demos just by whipping up some interactive Adobe Flash files.. with the device not working at all..
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RE: RIM:
Intosh Updated - 17th Dec 2010
@Matt_Fabb@...

We all know the Playbook doesn't really exist since no one here has ever touched it. So there is no web browser whatsoever. You are crazy! -s-
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And hope that the iPad v.2 doesn't put a damper on their plans. Remember how everyone were anticipating the HP Slate? How's that doing in the enterprise? What about the Dell Streak, any enterprise takers?
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When was the HP Slate released?
wackoae 16th Dec 2010
@dave95. Last I checked (about 2 secs ago), it was still vaporware.
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RE: RIM:
msalzberg 16th Dec 2010
@wackoae

I believe it was released in October. Demand was so high that HP had to nearly double the production run; from 5,000 units to 9,000units.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/13/hp-slate-500-sees-extraordinary-demand-experiences-six-week-s/
@msalzberg.. i hear that one of the accessories is asbestos gloves and welder's face shield to to protect you from the heat when you fire up Word.. lol..
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RE: RIM:
Michael Alan Goff 17th Dec 2010
9,000 orders when 5,000 were anticipated? I know the numbers aren't extraordinary, but just look at that percentage wise. Almost 100% more than anticipated, and this is after they changed it to be an enterprise only thing. I think there would be many more if they had advertised to normal people.
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you're just being dumb.
johnmckay 17th Dec 2010
@dave95.

you've clearly no idea of the RIM model or security, or why the Playbook should fit better in the enterprise. You've also clearly not tried using the devices with an app in the enterprise either. My Blackberry 9700 internet experience is complete rubbish BUT having all my Outlook notes; being able to read passworded docs (some); and a battery life of 3 days plus, a biggy, WITHOUT endless entering of the app password every time i did something different. Yes the app works, yes it works good, but it works in parallel to the device not as part of the whole.

For these reasons I look forward to at least seeing the playbook and being on the right side of the corporate firewall, and entering my password once while I do all that I want. I cerainly can't do that with GOOD on an iphone.
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Does the iPad need competition?
davebarnes 17th Dec 2010
Yes, it does.
Will it come from the CrackBook?
No.
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@davebarnes

Not only are you so clever that you know exactly what the crackbook will deliver, you're also so clever that you know it wont compete with the ipad. Wow. What're the winning lottery numbers for tonight?

Great device, for viewing. Pants for creating. Great at home. Too big to carry around in work (just a laptops are) I reckon the 7" format should work in corporate land and in loads of places. I can't see me hanging two ipads over he headrests in the car but I could see me doing it with two 7" toys.

Time will tell but one thing is for sure... talk is cheap.
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RE: RIM:
tantrica 17th Dec 2010
really has not for the iPhone, but I believe that soon will
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RE: RIM:
james347 17th Dec 2010
Not!
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RE: RIM:
kitko 18th Dec 2010
Blackberry. Getting "sourere" every day.
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Typical reaction
itpro_z 18th Dec 2010
In my posts above, I did not bash the iPad, nor did I embrace the Playbook, yet the Apple "true believers" attacked with their usual religious zeal. The iPad is a nice piece of consumer electronics, just like the iPhone and iPods, but it is not designed for business, nor is Apple a company that has much cred in the business world. Yes, I know there are a few minor examples of big companies who have brought Apple hardware into their operations, but they are a very, very tiny minority. Apple turned their backs on the business world long ago, and most of us simply do not trust either Apple products or Apple as a company in our world. I have owned Apple products before, at home, but see little to make me want to bring them to work.

One of the most common misconceptions from the Apple crowd is that many companies are rushing to copy the iPad, yet that could not be further from the truth. Pad type computers have existed for many years, but of course Apple gets credit for "inventing" the tech rather than merely copying what others did before them, not unlike they did with the iPods. One has to give Apple credit for their marketing prowess for taking relatively generic technology and making it into cultural fads, but stating that they invented the technology is stretching the truth.

What many companies are working towards is not copying the iPad, but producing variations on the theme that are more suitable for specific markets. RIM will concentrate on integrating their model into the enterprise, seeking to capitalize on their existing base. Will they succeed? I have no idea, but would not write them off. Dell is coming to market with models in a variety of form factors, from 5" on up. It is not hard for those of us who do not worship at the alter of Steve to see applications that might dictate a smaller size. Since Dell is currently the largest provider of hardware to the medical industry, they also have a large base to market their product to, and should not be easily dismissed. The popularity of Android phones, and their growing integration into the enterprise, will also pave the way for what appears to be a multitude of products from Dell and many others.

Apple will continue to do well with their product line. Like any company, they will do better with competition. Unless you are nothing more than a worshiper, even Apple devotees should root for a vigorous market with strong competition. Apple products are decent, but not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. Competition will push them, and the result will be better products.
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RE: RIM:
DannyO_0x98 19th Dec 2010
@itpro_z
Your first comment of the day, the well-considered, appropriately nuanced:

"What a coincidence. From the enterprise perspective, neither does the iPad."

in connection with "Doing Nothing."

Honestly, it's no skin off my nose if you want to go into provoke mode rather than write something more serious as you did immediately above. I'd prefer more of the latter.

We'll overlook your oversimplification of Apple boosters' description of the tech in iPads. My summary would be "Apple was the first to do the tech right, so that ordinary people wanted to use the product." It's a subtle thing, and what intelligent person really cares about who was first about whatever? Being the first Europeans in Virginia didn't really work out so well for the colonists at Roanoke.

Regarding the iPad in the enterprise, yes it was designed and optimized as a general consumer device. Ordinary folks seem to prefer it to notebook computers. There's an interface style, which means learning one application reduces the learning curve for another. It has a good browser and supports a promising web app/content consumption framework in html5.

So why shouldn't enterprise IT leverage its positives? Perhaps there are good reasons, but I also know that IT departments occasionally have a depressing tendency to think about their interests instead of employee productivity, which is me begging the question, of course, that an iPad improves or could improve productivity.

Meanwhile, RIM says their not-yet-shipped product is going to be THE answer. Maybe so, but I take this point of view about everything: let me know when you ship version 1, until then, I got other stuff to do and no time to day-dream about an unimplemented feature list.

In the meantime, if the PlayBook is, as hinted, geared toward the Enterprise with IT department friendly features, does that mean the troops will embrace it? If the PlayBook doesn't utilize the iPad's ideas in user interface, doesn't that put the PlayBook deploying organization on the hook for training?

Nothing's perfect. I wouldn't be so dismissive, at eight months in, of the suitability of a popular consumer device that, like its sibling the iPhone, is likely to have enterprise-amenable features added. Maybe RIM will get to that point first, but at this moment, they are in vapor mode in order to convince their fans in IT to not give the iPad the time of day (and to give financial analysts a reason to not push the "sell" button.)

You conclude with the blanket statement that all companies do better with competition. Not so. Some leave the business when a disruptive competitor arrives in town. Sometimes consumers do better when there's competition, but even this isn't universally true. RIM is responding to how Apple has brought competition to its niches and we see this weird cross of denial (we're doing fine, look at all those subscribers) and vapor (when we get dual-core into the phones, watch the magic).

There's a lot to discuss and someone who is truly an IT pro would have an interesting perspective. So next time, maybe the thought-piece that talks about the blog should come first. And that talk back should avoid the easy space-filler of setting up fanbois assertions in order to knock them down, or the glib slam of a product for cheap laughs and copious, tedious, back-and-forthing that includes the same blah-blah-blah we had yesterday. And the day before. And the day before.

Part of the problem or part of the solution?
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You make some interesting points
itpro_z 19th Dec 2010
I agree that not every company benefits from competition, as I seem to remember in the early days WordStar failing to improve their product when faced with WordPerfect, or both Lotus and WordPerfect falling flat when Microsoft rolled out Word and Excel. Perhaps RIM is in the same boat, having become fat and lazy at the top of the food chain and no longer able to respond to a tough competitor. Time will tell.

I do take exception to the concept that we don't need any more products, which the Apple faithful tend to promote. Is the iPad so perfect that it is the answer to everyone's problem? Is Steve Jobs correct that the 10" form fact is the only viable option? I myself see several uses for tablets (I have worked with tablets since Microsoft released XP Tablet edition), and the iPad really is a poor fit for many potential uses.

Perhaps my biggest complaint about the iPad is the company behind it. At least under Jobs, Apple has the annoying habit of trying to dictate to us what we need, what features are important, and what we have to swallow to adopt their products. Perhaps because of the wide variety of hardware and software available on the PC side of the market we have become accustomed to making our own decisions about what products fit our needs. Apple wants to dictate to us, and we are not used to that. Yes, I do see the advantages to Apple's level of control over their products, at least in a limited sense, but I also remember the Apple II (yes, I have been around for a while), and the vast number of solutions that evolved around what was a very open platform. Jobs ended that, and Apple became a niche player, although one he controlled with absolute authority. Now, Apple wants into the enterprise, but you will have to forgive my skepticism because the dictatorial Jobs is still at the helm.

I have similar skepticism for Android, because I simply do not trust Google, which has a habit of pillaging data for their own gain. I like the concept of Android, but much like Apple I simply do not trust the company behind it. RIM I do trust, as they have always taken privacy and security very seriously, but I would not place any bets on their ability to reinvent their product line.

The other players are HP, who bought Palm specifically for WebOS, and Microsoft. Is HP making a desperate gamble,or do they have a plan on how to leverage their presence in the enterprise to become a player? Your guess is a as good as mine, but HP is a powerful company and I would not dismiss them easily.

On the surface, Microsoft seems to be doing little, other than pushing tablets with Windows 7, a desktop OS. While some dismiss this effort, I do see applications for a tablet with the power of a full blown OS, and I do recognize how easily MS or others could layer a simple interface on top of Windows 7. Microsoft has been adamant that WinPhone7 is not for tablets, although it might be a decent fit for smaller devices. The big unknown is Windows Embedded, which is the in between product that might surprise us all.

What is my take on all of this? To sum it up simply, I would say that we live in interesting times, and for that we should all be thankful.
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RIM In Decline
rjriley@... 18th Dec 2010
RIM is like a rocket which doesn't reach orbit. They are experiencing an uncontrolled reentry.
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Rim is redefining "flop"???
i8thecat 23rd Dec 2010
Talk about arrogant stupidity... To come out and say, we are going to release a product that will "redefine" the tablet... Really??? That's not even possible... It's a tablet.

Rim couldn't fight its way out of wet paper bag let alone redefine anything. What good is encryption on a very expensive proprietary network if enterprise can't run the actual apps they want? Security and productivity have always been and will always be at two separate ends of a balance. One goes up, the other goes down. Not to mention, the playbook is only 7 inches... Multiply the iPad and playbook screens by 5... It's the difference between a 50" screen and a 35" screen... That is a HUGE visual difference!!!! There is no wow on a 7 inch screen. You can't get a full web page and actually read it. Reading an eBook would be a joke... And no one cares about developing for Rim, it's not worth the expense (granted a few developers might find some down time and rehash some old apps to be somewhat functional on Rim), but I hardly call that desirable.

We keep seeing iPad wannabes hit the market with these smaller screens... People don't want smaller screens... The fact is, these morons can't produce a 10" tablet that comes close to the performance/battery life of the iPad. And the 2nd gen iPad will set them back even further. They all showed up to a Nascar race with go-carts.... Who cares if Rim claims they have the fastest go-cart (that may not exist)...

You want a good stock tip.. Short RIMM mid to late January.
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RE: RIM:
birumut Updated - 17th Jun
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