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TigerText can erase sent text messages. Is it really the 'perfect app for cheating'?

By | March 1, 2010, 3:00am PST

Summary: A new smartphone application promises to turn sent text messages into ticking time bombs. Is it a panacea for privacy or an unethical legal loophole?

OK, confession time: How many of you have ever sent a text that could one day come back to haunt you?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Those text messages? Now bygones. The answer from here on out: TigerText.

While traditional texts live a second life on your carrier’s server, long after you hit erase on your phone, TigerTexts are deleted at a time of your choosing, between one minute and one month after they’re read.

Think of it as the morning-after pill for your messaging. Or, if you’re not inclined to that metaphor, imagine texting on an Etch A Sketch. You read it, and then–shake!–it’s gone.

The app was released last week for the iPhone, and the company expects to roll out apps for Blackberry and Android in the next few weeks.

You can give it a shot with a free 15-day, 100-text trial. If you like it, it’s a $2.49 monthly fee for unlimited texts. (When you use TigerText, your carrier’s text fees won’t apply, since they’re technically not phone texts.)

Here’s how it works. Other than the hue, the app looks just like conventional iPhone texting. The difference is that the settings prompt you to select a time for your messages to be deleted. The minimum allows the message to live for 60 seconds after the intended recipient opens it; the maximum allows it to live for 30 days.

Although users on both side of the conversation must have the app, it’s the sender of the message who controls when it is deleted.

The message completely circumvents your phone’s server by instead transmitting through TigerText’s server. If, for instance, you select two hours for the lifespan of the message, after two hours, it will be deleted from the sender’s phone, the recipient’s phone and the server — forever.

There is a countdown to show how much longer the message will exist on this planet, and—poof—after it’s gone, there are tiger paw prints in its place. (Which, you must admit, are adorable.)

Here’s a look at the app:

Time magazine took an easy shot at TigerText by making the obvious link to Tiger Woods‘ philandering — calling it “an iPhone app for cheating spouses” — but the app’s implications go far beyond illicit affairs.

What about using it on your corporate-issued smartphone?

“Instead of loose lips, we use the term loose thumbs,” said TigerText founder Jeffrey Evans. “And everyone has loose thumbs at some point. ‘I hate my boss’ — you can say that, and we’ve all said that. But if you text it and your employer finds it, your career is over.”

Evans said an increasing number of employers are searching the Internet to see what they can find out about a potential employee.

“Anything you send, email or text,” Evans said. “You have to realize someone might make hiring decisions based on that.”

Whether it’s the case of former Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his infidelities — which were revealed in text messages between him and his former top aide — or the case of Sgt. Jeff Quon of the Ontario Police Department in California, who sued after the department read transcripts of texts from his government pager, saying it violated his Fourth Amendment rights, the issue of privacy and texting has reached a critical point.

In December, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to take on the Ontario case and decide whether the department violated Quon’s privacy rights. The court’s decision may send a broader message about privacy in this digital era, especially for workers communicating electronically using their employers’ phones.

Evans says the legal community is applauding TigerText. He says one attorney told him, “I can’t say how many times my clients’ text messages have caused problems for me.”

On the other hand, prosecutors and detectives who prefer everything on the record probably aren’t such big fans of TigerText, which makes it impossible to read the texting history of those who use the app.

“Fortunately, we live in a country that doesn’t believe that’s the way things should work,” Evans said. “I certainly feel like the government is getting more intrusive, not less.”

Detroit mayor Kilpatrick and Ontario officer Quon surely would have been better off—at least in the texting cosmos—if they’d had TigerText.

But would we have been better off?

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RE: TigerText can erase sent text messages. Is it really the 'perfect app for cheating'?
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Robert Carnegie 2009 1st Mar 2010
So she finds you have an app called "TigerText" loaded, isn't that a huge giveaway itself?

On reflection... that -is- cool. For people who don't want to get cheated on, and do want to audit their relatively stupid significant other's personal data devices to make sure.

As for public officials, I want everything they send to be held against appropriate auditing.
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A very good point.
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 1st Mar 2010
Any corporate managed device is going to bar this app from being loaded on a company owned device, and as you said it, if your spouse or Significant other finds this app loaded, and they look at the description of the app, the jig is up.

There will not be any plausible deniability. If you have an open honest relationship with your spouse, then you have no need for this app. And if you feel it is necessary to have this app, then do the responsible thing, and break up with them.
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lots of reasons for privacy
woodelf 3rd Mar 2010
Really? The *only* possible reason anyone could have for wanting to
erase their text messages is cheating? What about not wanting your
kids to find sexually-explicit messages sent to your spouse? Or non-
malicious complaining about your boss that you don't want to come
back to haunt you? Or just generally wanting your private
communications to stay that way? Then again, I'm amazed at the
number of people who send all their email in the clear, do all their
IMing in the clear, and basically leave everything but their banking
open for anybody to intercept and read.

Of course, TigerText isn't a very good solution, as it relies on the
behavior of the company that runs it. Something like Off the Record or
Vanish encryption schemes are much more reliable, IMHO.
yes we are better off with TigerText and other apps like this. When can they make one for email? I'm sick over the fact that my cell phone provider holds a record of everything I say. Anyone who is married and may one day get divorced, every lawyer will read everything you ever texted. Can't we say things without the government having access and needing to listen? I don't mean to sound dramatic here, but what right does the government have to look at my emails? If we all had the option to make our cell phone companies purge the texts and emails we send wouldn't we all select 'yes' for that option? I'm sorry but I'm all for tiger Text. I hope it eventually becomes the only way people text and email.
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Wake up and smell the rotten roses
arodriguez@... 2nd Mar 2010
"what right does the government have to look at my emails?"

Hello! It's not just the government that can look at your emails. The whole world can. People have this crazy notion that email is something between the sender and the receiver but the truth is email is broadcast openly on every node between the two parties. Emailing is similar to leaning out your house window and shouting something to somebody walking on the sidewalk. You have little to complain if other people on the sidewalk hear it too. What I love even more is the people that place disclaimers on their signature about email being only for the intended recipient. Come on!

If you want something you say to be private, then say it privately. If you don't like my shouting out the window analogy, think of email as a postcard, being able to be read by anybody whose hands it goes through.

Now Tigertext is not all that innovative. People have been doing similar things with encrypted IMs for years. The only difference is you force the recipient to lose the information too. But that doesn't mean they couldn't keep a copy/screenshot anyway. Ultimately, you shouldn't say anything you would regret others reading. I once heard that a man's character is defined by what he does when he thinks nobody's watching. Privacy is too often used as the umbrella to cover wrong-doing.
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After all, just the presence of the app on your iPhone alone is enough to make you look guilty in your spouse's eyes.
whats the point.....what about if i want to text someone with a non supported or 'older' type phone?? waste of time....just meet and talk in a carpark..best privacy...just a blag for the company to try to make money...nothing more....
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What about screen shots?
An Apple a Day 1st Mar 2010
Someone could very well capture the current text on screen with a screen shot and forward it to whomever they want to. Capture enough of them and you will have the whole conversation.
Just sayin'...
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Can you trust TigerText?
Murfski 1st Mar 2010
Would you really trust them to delete your texts completely and irretrievably?
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RE: Can you trust TigerText?
zgbizwiz 29th Jul 2010
@murphym@... Would you really trust them? Of course you would trust them. Do you trust your doctor, policemen, or how about your mailman? When you pay someone to do a service for you, then they are obligated to do it. If they don't then 2 things will happen. 1)they would have huge legal issues, and 2)well they wouldn't make it very far to begin with so they wouldn't be much of a company. So ya I am trusting them to do the service they say they do.
@zgbizwiz security is always trust no one. the US already has laws in place whereby organizations are constantly being required to maintain logs of messages for legal purposes. Skype is currently being pushed toward allowing wire taps on communication despite their p2p end to end encryption system (senators/congresspersons very rarely understand these systems and the challenges implied in wire tapping them). That is why tigertext cannot be fully trusted.
@Murfski
exactly, security is trust no one!
http://homepages.uc.edu/~carrahle/spec.txt
i am currently a computer engineering student working on my phd in distributed systems, however i took a little hiatus one night and started designing this system for a trust no one, "decentralized encrypted sender controlled message system". i think currently the security for the system is sound, but i want people to look at it and comment, as my field is not computer security, i am just an enthusiast.
No person who uses a device furnished by the company/government entity for whom they work, should have any expectation of privacy. These devices are used for work related issues and should never be used for personal use. As to privacy concerns with personally owed devices all expectations of privacy are sacrosanct and should be constitutionally upheld.
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Good Points With Some Tweaking
Cardhu 1st Mar 2010
"These devices ... should never be used for personal use."

Yes, I agree that misuse of employer-provided resources is inappropriate. However, the above is too strong a dictate. No boundary on professional life can ever completely exclude personal life. Normal families require communication across the professional - personal border for daily operation. For example:

"Honey plz pick up coff syrup & gallon of milk on way home."

Anyone who has held a DoD or contractor security clearance is very well aware that any expectation of "privacy" is strictly an illusion. No matter what we do, there are always witnesses and records.

Most people would be very surprised at just how many people in their lives and all around them have a very good idea exactly what they're up to.
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True enough
jpdemers@... 1st Mar 2010
Not many people carry around two cell phones, one for business and one for personal use. Some do (typically, a corporate BlackBerry & a personal cell), but it's not the norm by any means, and smart-phones are blurring what little distinction there is.
1) Until everyone joins a network, it will remain a
curiosity. The need to "have the app" will be a big
roadblock in adoption.
2) While Big Brother can't get your texts, the recipient
can. Two words: Screen Capture
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Why would it be unethical?
rarsa 1st Mar 2010
It was weird to use the word "unethical" for this application.

Are we so used to big brother that protecting our own privacy is "unethical"?

I don't remember anyone finding it unethical to burn your own paper notes (as long as they were only yours).

Of course people may use it for unethical purposes but they can already use a pencil for that.
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RE Why would it be unethical?
j-mccurdy@... 1st Mar 2010
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"Are we so used to big brother that protecting
our own privacy is "unethical"? "

Very well said, There are way too many people ready to, Give up theirs and everyone else s privacy, I swear too many people have gotten so comfortable and welcoming of Big brother.
Just look at how many sheep we now have in our society, Who have this whole attitude of... OHHHH Watch us big brother and keep us all safe, Because I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't have anything to hide. And then if you don't trust Big bro, then it means you're a wacky nutty conspiracy theorist.
Just keep reading the post's, no doubt you will see some right here on this site.
No licensed MSP would offer such a self-destruct service. Their execs would end
up in jail due to lawful-intercept requirements in almost every country on
planet earth!
Erased my butt,a record of all phone conversations are being kept on a hard drive at most big business phone centers. It doesn`t violate the privacy act if it is during working hours. We recorded the first 20 seconds of all phone calls. Cell phones are no different. Somebody is listening. Don`t be stupid. Scramble,sure. LOL
At least the product name is appropriate. Now that Tiger is losing all his other endorsement deals, he's free to take this one!
I see two things driving the uptake on this! One the cheap flat rate price for texting and two, every drug dealer is going to have to have this!
Want to pass a "good" law? Just as a GPS style locators are required on all phones now (ostensibly for our safety) there should be hardware based strong encryption built into the transmitter of mobile phones. A similar technology* was considered to protect "the money" - digital rights to media productions - so secure data encryption should surely be mandatory to protect personal and corporate privacy, a much greater good than DRM. TigerText should have been unnecessary from the very beginning of digital communication, and certainly unnecessary now.

*[Microsoft Palladium, where "content" does not leave the machine unencrypted}
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or...
PappaJ 1st Mar 2010
http://www.zsentry.com/

Nothing new, except maybe targeting the iPhone market.
I think that this application addresses privacy issues which
are beginning to gain some traction in the courts. How this
will pan out with the likes of "Homeland Insecurity" will be
the next step.
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Is this really a bad thing?
jabster17 1st Mar 2010
I can think of various corporate and government
environments where they would like this kind of
app. Most companies already have email
retention policies, and I am sure that most
companies have sensitive information that
people talk, email, and, yes, chat about that
they wouldn't want disclosed--and one good way
to prevent that is to practice good
housekeeping and delete that kind of stuff
right away.

My company-issued laptop has an encrypted hard
drive and purges emails after 2 months. Does
that mean that either myself or my employer is
ethically suspect? By gosh, by golly, I must
be trying to hide something. Except in my case
it's customer data.

Of course, any such technology can be used for
immoral ends. But it can also protect you from
the immoral acts of others.
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"What do I have to hide?"
{DvT}Hex 1st Mar 2010
In a word: everything. If I post something publically, I expect the public to read it; if I post something to a specific recipient, then it is nobody's business but that recipient's: it does not matter whether it is a grocery list or my evil plans to annihilate the planet...or anything in between.

"But would we have been better off [if those people had had TigerText]?" Yes. I don't want to be safe from them; I want to be safe from the government. If you read and analyze the 27 Amendements to the Constitution, you will discover that 5 or 6 of them are "housekeeping" (like defining the presidential succession), that 2 of them GIVE power to the government (income tax and alcohol prohibition)...actually only 1 due to the repeal of prohibition, and that all the rest limit or restrict the power of government. The latter fact and the overall philosophy being something the government never talks about and most people stay ignorant of in order to be "safe" ... as in "would we be better off?" BAH.

The government serves many extremely useful functions, but examining and running our lives is at the very bottom of that list.
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hmmm
OneTwoc21 1st Mar 2010
it kind of defeats its own purpose, at least in a non corporate world. In your personal life, somebody already stated, you already look guilty by having it. Corporate world, its perfect if you ask me. Personal opinions are exactly that, personal. The fact that they can be used against you for a job is insane. I really don't want to get into politics but 4th amendment is a huge issue here. We should not NEED the app tigertext if you ask me. The issue at hand is, things should have never gotten to the point that we needed to create an app to defend our personal rights.
It's certainly useful for attorney-client communications; I can see law firms making it mandatory for their attorneys. (The usual drill is to e-mail the client "Let's discuss over the phone," then get on the phone so as to avoid leaving a record.) It's to protect the attorney, at least as much as it is to protect the client, from a whole lot of grief. You don't have to be hiding anything illegitimate to be inconvenienced or paralyzed by attempts to uncover your records -- life is vastly easier if there are no records for people to rummage around in.

Same goes for customers, partners, bankers ... having this app on your phone isn't going to suggest "guilt" to anybody who's not already paranoid (or at least suspicious) -- at least for anyone with business dealings. (Blue-collar types might have a harder time justifying it, so they'll just have to keep on using pay phones if they've got shady dealings to hide.)

And it's probably not 100% spook-proof, because the ghost of Dick Cheney will be peering over our shoulders for the foreseeable future. While I'm sure it's legal to ditch the text itself, the Feds might still mandate that TigerText keep a time-stamped record of who is messaging whom.
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Just use encrypted SMS
svc4you 1st Mar 2010
Just use AES256 encrypted SMS with an expiring key.
While the message may be saved forever on some server,
nobody will be able to read it, not even the government
(despite what they tell you).
bored reading these replies too, I think it is because I am
sleepy and have been reading these posts for the last 3
hours. anyway, I think it is a good idea, but I would
never pay $2.99 for that feature, when I could only send it
to people who are willing and able to install the app on
their device. now if it allowed you to receive messages
without paying, that would be one thing, but I would still
not pay that much. maybe a $5 or $10 per year fee, with an
optional $0.10 per text pay as you go plan.

Anyway the main reason I wanted to reply is that Iwant to
know if the company keeps backups of their servers. Do they
make 2 copies of every text? one to a backup and one to the
recipient? or even normal daily incremental or differential
backups of the database?

I'd have half a mind to write my own app to do it and charge
people $0.99 per month and guarantee no copies are made. as
without having to back up the text database, the only backups
would be user accounts, so huge cost savings on the backup
system, and by offering a "lite" version that only receives
and auto deletes after only 60 mins or less (full version
allowing the 30 day thing or even 90). the pay as you go
would be a $4 - $6 purchase for the app then the pay as you
go model, only other option would be the annual fee based.
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